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Originally Posted by Pente View Post

I've still got this ancient x-fi xtrememusic that I've been using and it seems to work fine, of course I'm still on win7 (laugh)

X-Fi xtrememusic should be the same SB0460 as the X-FI Platinum that I talked about in the post. No reason to upgrade for worse software and no sound quality benefit.
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Originally Posted by mumbojumbo View Post

If you primarily use headphones, you could always try a external DAC and amp.

I would never use a USB DAC on a system where you care about mouse movement.
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Originally Posted by diggiddi View Post

How does the Soundblaster Z compare to the Xfi in terms of sound quality especially music?

Haven't really compared them in-depth. They're both better than Audigy 2, and after that point, it seems like heavy diminishing returns for what someone would consider quality. It's not exactly a good question to ask me since I care more about the sound cards effect on mouse movement than quality of sound. I would not be surprised if the X-FI was better, but like I said, you need to disable EAX, CMSS 3d, Crystallizer, and all other sound processing to have non-crappy mouse movement.
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Originally Posted by Brightmist View Post

What's your DPC latency when playing music or smth, still 2 microseconds ?

Moving a 1000hz mouse is usually more IO intensive than doing things like that.
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Moving a 1000hz mouse is usually more IO intensive than doing things like that..

Yea but isn't the Sound Card the main reason of DPC latency when listening to music and not moving the mouse? You're stating that DPC latency is a useful number / not a measure of Input Lag but you're not listing any other DPC values for other people to use it as a reference.

I appreciate and respect the effort you are putting into these threads but the only reference we can use at this point are your "feels" compared to our "feels" which doesn't really help benching a system's responsiveness.
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post #14 of 258
Why not Xonar DX with low dpc unixonar drivers?
post #15 of 258
That old X-fi has the three modes right? Audio creation, entertainment and gaming. Did you test for any difference between them?
post #16 of 258
What exactly is proper mouse movement and how do you measure it?
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post #17 of 258
Marking this so that I can test when I get home. I've never bought into all this stuff, because I've never felt it before. But I have a Soundblaster Z, and have been having an issue where an audio device keeps popping up and disappearing so I'm going to do some testing tonight.

Should I be able to test the DPC latency in three steps?

No driver installed
Driver Installed, no effects enabled
Driver installed, sound effects enabled and other processing.

It should go up each time by a noticeable amount correct?
post #18 of 258
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Originally Posted by r0ach View Post

I would never use a USB DAC on a system where you care about mouse movement..

What kind of effect do you think it'll have if someone bought an external DAC with HDMI support?
And then run audio through GPU HDMI port.
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With newer motherboards losing PCI support these days, what would be the best PCI-e alternative? The Soundblaster Z or something else?
    
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This sounds about as reliable as snake oil... So how does the sound card affect mouse movement, again?
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