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[WCCF] TSMC’s 16nm FinFET Faces Major Delay – Qualcomm Jumps Ship To Samsung

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We exclusively told you three weeks ago that 16nm GPUs were delayed and that they will not make an appearance in 2015. Today this is public news as TSMC faces its second major 16nm FinFET delay. According to multiple reports, TSMC’s most recent 16nm issues are serious enough that Qualcomm has decided to jump ship to Samsung instead. Who conveniently managed to drive up yield significantly only recently.

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Well, this could seriously hurt nvidia's launch plans while ati's could be advanced dramatically. Should make for interesting launchs.
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Good thing AMD switched to Global Foundries? tongue.gif
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TSMC needs to get their stuff together. They had frills, or still do, with 20nm, and now with their state of the art FinFET 16nm. jee wiz.
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So they failed with 20nm GPUs and are now failing with 16nm GPUs. Are we doomed to 28nm for eternity?

Which makes me ask, why are they messing with 16nm when they still don't have 20nm for GPUs?
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Wow, that world map is so huge in its scope. Just wow.
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Well, AMD can make CPU's on  GF before they can make big GPU's so looking good:applaud: for much better CPU market 2 years from now.

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TSMC needs to get their stuff together. They had frills, or still do, with 20nm, and now with their state of the art FinFET 16nm. jee wiz.

TSMC is a joke of the industry. They've had major delays with every node as far back as 45nm... No wonder Apple wont put their business in their hands.
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I'm guessing that the semicon that fixed their yield problems (according to SA) was Samsung.
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You didn't exclusively tell us jack.

You copied the story from digitimes as you are doing now. STOP POSTING WCCF
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So they failed with 20nm GPUs and are now failing with 16nm GPUs. Are we doomed to 28nm for eternity?

Which makes me ask, why are they messing with 16nm when they still don't have 20nm for GPUs?

Well, it isn't REALLY 16nm. What they are calling 16nm is really 20nm with Finfet. They are just calling it 16nm. I will have to look for where I read that, as it has been about a year ago, but that is what is going on.

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