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I would never advise anyone to use Corsair PWM fans of any flavor.

They were designed to be used with Corsair's own Link system, and don't follow the Intel PWM standard very well.

When you try to control more than just a few, you progressively loose control of the lower range as you add more fans until they all just run at max, even though they are set at a very low pulse width.

Most mobos seem to handle about 4 to 6 of them on a powered PWM splitter before things start going south. . . . around 7 or 8 of them, and they are all at max with no control.

You won't be using that many, at least not yet, but why buy something that would be useless down the road if you wanted to expand the system.

If you like the Corsairs, and they are reasonably priced in the 2 packs, go with the 3 pin . . . . they voltage control acceptably. . .

If you want something PWM that you can control from the mobo with a powered splitter, get Anything But Corsair, and you should be OK.


Darlene

I have read hints of this around the place but no one had a clear explanation. I think I will steer clear if this is the case.

So far the fan count is at 14 but ill decide officially once the case arrives in a few days. Bare minimum, there will be 11 fans.

On my powered PWM splitters, as long as the fans are of the same type/specs the RPM is controlled as if it were one and this has been successful for me for some time. Does the same thing apply to DC splitters?

I found with PWM fans if there weren't powered by a molex in a splitter they would run at half speed for two fans and third speed for three fans at max RPM.
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Im in for S8 love

Hehe thanks Wiz! Thanks again for those SLi air temps thumb.gif
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Thanks for coming along for the ride thumb.gif
Thanks bud, nah, no water for me...well not yet. Everything I've ever done if optimised has been so good on air there's been no need - and that's saying a bit considering our summer tongue.gif

I told myself I would stick to air with my S5 but once again I have a full WC build in mind.
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I would never advise anyone to use Corsair PWM fans of any flavor.

They were designed to be used with Corsair's own Link system, and don't follow the Intel PWM standard very well.

When you try to control more than just a few, you progressively loose control of the lower range as you add more fans until they all just run at max, even though they are set at a very low pulse width.

Most mobos seem to handle about 4 to 6 of them on a powered PWM splitter before things start going south. . . . around 7 or 8 of them, and they are all at max with no control.

You won't be using that many, at least not yet, but why buy something that would be useless down the road if you wanted to expand the system.

If you like the Corsairs, and they are reasonably priced in the 2 packs, go with the 3 pin . . . . they voltage control acceptably. . .

If you want something PWM that you can control from the mobo with a powered splitter, get Anything But Corsair, and you should be OK.


Darlene

I have read hints of this around the place but no one had a clear explanation. I think I will steer clear if this is the case.

So far the fan count is at 14 but ill decide officially once the case arrives in a few days. Bare minimum, there will be 11 fans.

On my powered PWM splitters, as long as the fans are of the same type/specs the RPM is controlled as if it were one and this has been successful for me for some time. Does the same thing apply to DC splitters?

I found with PWM fans if there weren't powered by a molex in a splitter they would run at half speed for two fans and third speed for three fans at max RPM.

Sounds like connection issues within the wiring . . . or if you were powering them from the mobo, it may have been overloading a bit and PWM fans can be a bit funky when undervolted.


Yes,

As long as they are the same fans, and the cabling is good, as in no lame connections or splices that end up dropping voltage because of the high resistance they create, the fans will all run the same speed as each other, just like powered PWM.


Once you have the case in hand, and start pushing parts around a bit, the details of how to set stuff up will start to become more apparent.


Darlene
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Watching ph34r-smiley.gif
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All air S8? Count me in! thumb.gif
     
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All air S8? Count me in! thumb.gif

Thanks, can't wait to get this rocking and rolling! Now to just decide on the fans! wha-smiley.png
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Here are a few ideas I have for sleeving. There will be silver/grey highlights throughout the build from thinks like graphics card heatsink and electronic parts on the motherboard so I think it would fit in with the theme.


http://choosemypc.net/sleeving/?p=54bb5d269bb35

Or there's the more "stealth" option.


http://choosemypc.net/sleeving/?p=54bb5da498278
Edited by GrimDoctor - 1/19/15 at 3:14am
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For those that have asked and those that are curious, this not a sponsored build (I wish it was) so some things may move slower due to funds but it should be more days delay than months with anything. And of course they only other thing to hold me up will be suppliers...oh suppliers! I can't blame some of them though, Adelaide isn't the biggest place so not many hold, for example, the amount of fans I'm going to need!

Anyways, back to building and planning!
Edited by GrimDoctor - 1/19/15 at 3:23am
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Ah, Goldeneye. I used to melt faces in that game! smile.gif

I'm all for the color scheme you have going. I am a huge fan of the gold/black as hardly anyone does it. Good luck, and keep this log updated! thumb.gif
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