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Yeah, there shouldn't even been power lights on monitors any more, never had a use for them. It's a kind of vestigial design aspect that is no longer relevant to technology.

What about OLED screens that look like they're powered off on a black screen?
 
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What about OLED screens that look like they're powered off on a black screen?
I would really feel that, an OLED 1440p screen instead of LCD inside my XB270HU biggrin.gif... infinite contrast, no more BLB... awesome... one can only dream..
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What about OLED screens that look like they're powered off on a black screen?

I'm assuming your point is that lights are needed to tell if a screen is on or not? I'd say that need is much less than the impact the lights have on users. They could put the light on the back of screens, and even then I'd say it's still not really needed. if your screen isn't responding, then it's either burnt out or your computing device needs to be restarted, so it's easy to infer things without a light.
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I'm assuming your point is that lights are needed to tell if a screen is on or not? I'd say that need is much less than the impact the lights have on users. They could put the light on the back of screens, and even then I'd say it's still not really needed. if your screen isn't responding, then it's either burnt out or your computing device needs to be restarted, so it's easy to infer things without a light.

Yeah your assumption is right. On that note, I covered up the power button on my XB270HU with electrical tape although I can still see it a bit (but it's not bothersome at all). The bias light I have plugged into its USB port sort of serves as a power LED, since it turns on/off with the monitor.
 
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I would really feel that, an OLED 1440p screen instead of LCD inside my XB270HU biggrin.gif... infinite contrast, no more BLB... awesome... one can only dream..

Is that what is in cel phones?

I can't tell you how many times I've watched Netflix on my Note 4 or viewed photos on it and thought, "Man! Why couldn't they just make a 27"+ G sync monitor that looks like my Note 4 screen!!!??"

The screen on that phone is just ridiculous...
    
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Is that what is in cel phones?

I can't tell you how many times I've watched Netflix on my Note 4 or viewed photos on it and thought, "Man! Why couldn't they just make a 27"+ G sync monitor that looks like my Note 4 screen!!!??"

The screen on that phone is just ridiculous...

Yes it is.

I too want a 27" 1440p OLED 120+ Hz screen. Actually I want a 32" 4K 120+ Hz OLED screen. Low persistence too, please. biggrin.gif

Also < $2000. rolleyes.gif
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Yes it is.

I too want a 27" 1440p OLED 120+ Hz screen. Actually I want a 32" 4K 120+ Hz OLED screen. Low persistence too, please. biggrin.gif

Also < $2000. rolleyes.gif

Some things are too good to be true. A 27" 2560 x 1440 120+ Hz G-SYNC OLED monitor is one of such things. So is a 4k 120+ Hz OLED G-SYNC monitor.
 
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http://www.overclock.net/t/1554247/build-log-vegas-2015-chromed-copper-tube-gaming-system/60_20#post_24519554
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By Boredgunner: What about OLED screens that look like they're powered off on a black screen?

 

Well, I can tell you it's coming. I do some work for Samsung so have access to their R & D. A lot of resources are being put into this as the first company to produce a monitor (or even TV) size screen will rake in the cash.

For obvious reasons I can't give away any thing that hasn't been publicly announced. I could get into a lot, really a lot of trouble!

 

What I can say is that the problem is Yield. When "pressing" the huge plates that screens are cut off, to put it crudely, it's only viable for small smartphone size screens. It's difficult to find say a 20" x 25" patch without defects.

 

 The vast majority of what is produced is rubbish. The focus of OLED R & D is too vastly improve the production methods in order for it to be viable for mass production. Currently it would cost the maker

many 1,000 dollars to get maybe just ONE flawless patch large enough to produce a monitor. Simply not practical. The tech itself is well understood, it's how to make screens without the vast majority of each production

run useless (due to defects).

 

It will be years, but it will happen. OLED is so good it would render other technologies obsolete. Such as IPS, TN, Plasma etc would just not be able to match the pure black of an OLED. As you know the black is like the 

clean canvas on which images are produced, that's why black is the most important single factor of the many. It affects everything. OLED is the only tech known that can produce real 100% pure black when switched on. The colour gamut and accuracy is out of this world. 5 years maybe? Probably more. A break through in production is needed. Tweaking the current methods does help, but no where near enough.

 

For now I am very happy with my ACER XB270HU 27"  HeHe.

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By Boredgunner: What about OLED screens that look like they're powered off on a black screen?

Well, I can tell you it's coming. I do some work for Samsung so have access to their R & D. A lot of resources are being put into this as the first company to produce a monitor (or even TV) size screen will rake in the cash.
For obvious reasons I can't give away any thing that hasn't been publicly announced. I could get into a lot, really a lot of trouble!

What I can say is that the problem is Yield. When "pressing" the huge plates that screens are cut off, to put it crudely, it's only viable for small smartphone size screens. It's difficult to find say a 20" x 25" patch without defects.

 The vast majority of what is produced is rubbish. The focus of OLED R & D is too vastly improve the production methods in order for it to be viable for mass production. Currently it would cost the maker
many 1,000 dollars to get maybe just ONE flawless patch large enough to produce a monitor. Simply not practical. The tech itself is well understood, it's how to make screens without the vast majority of each production
run useless (due to defects).

It will be years, but it will happen. OLED is so good it would render other technologies obsolete. Such as IPS, TN, Plasma etc would just not be able to match the pure black of an OLED. As you know the black is like the 
clean canvas on which images are produced, that's why black is the most important single factor of the many. It affects everything. OLED is the only tech known that can produce real 100% pure black when switched on. The colour gamut and accuracy is out of this world. 5 years maybe? Probably more. A break through in production is needed. Tweaking the current methods does help, but no where near enough.

For now I am very happy with my ACER XB270HU 27"  HeHe.

Yeah, OLED yields are a known issue. I'm happy enough with my Acer XB270HU... except for games with really dark environments. I have heard that Samsung has a 3440 x 1440 100 Hz VA panel in the works... that combined with variable refresh rate would make me happy. wink.gif
 
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Fanatec CSL Elite Wheel Advanced Pack CODE 87-key Keyboard (Cherry MX Green) w/ Vorte... Ducky Pocket Mechanical Keyboard (Cherry MX Blue) THRUSTMASTER T16000M FCS Flight Stick 
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Furman M-8X2 (x2) AmazonBasics 7-port Powered USB 3.0 Hub 
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Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 @ 3.6 GHz XFX nForce 680i LT XFX GeForce 8800 Ultra EVGA e-GeForce 9800GTX+ 
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Samsung 960 Pro 1TB Samsung 850 EVO 500GB Samsung 850 EVO 250GB EK Phoenix MLC 360mm 
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EK Vardar EVO 120ER x3 (bottom intake) Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Acer Predator XB270HU w/ Ideal Lume Standard Bi... Wooting One "Analog" Mechanical Keyboard (Red F... 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Seasonic PRIME Titanium 650W w/ Ensourced custo... Lian-Li PC-O11WX Logitech G Pro Kingston HyperX Fury Pro XL 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD Yamaha RX-V579 Ascend Acoustics CBM-170 SE Fluance XL7C 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Fluance AVBP2 Gustard U12 Chord Mojo Blue Yeti w/ Pop Filter 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Fanatec CSL Elite Wheel Advanced Pack CODE 87-key Keyboard (Cherry MX Green) w/ Vorte... Ducky Pocket Mechanical Keyboard (Cherry MX Blue) THRUSTMASTER T16000M FCS Flight Stick 
OtherOther
Furman M-8X2 (x2) AmazonBasics 7-port Powered USB 3.0 Hub 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 @ 3.6 GHz XFX nForce 680i LT XFX GeForce 8800 Ultra EVGA e-GeForce 9800GTX+ 
GraphicsGraphicsRAMHard Drive
EVGA e-GeForce 9800GX2 EVGA GeForce GTX 295 dual PCB OCZ Reaper 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 1066 Intel 330 Series 180GB 
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Thermalright Venomous-X Delta AFC1212D-PWM Silverstone AP141 Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG Flatron IPS235 Ducky Shine DK9087 Shine 2 (Cherry MX Red, gree... EVGA G2 850W Lian-Li PC-7HX 
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