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Hey Guys! I could use your advice.

So I got my replacement monitor. This one is a September model which can be overclocked to 165 Hz. There is one single dead (or maybe stuck) pixel in the upper left corner. Honestly, I won't ever notice it unless I go looking for it. And I don't think a single dead pixel is a reason for an RMA.

I RMA'ed the previous model because of terrible uniformity. The monitor was like a tri-color flag with the left having a very yellowish tint and the right had a blue tint. The replacement is far better, but there is still uniformity issues on the corners where there is glow and bleed. I'm going to infer that this is common place in all IPS monitors. I've used several Dell U3415 monitors in my college labs that have the same issue. I know it's caused by the glow because if I tilt my head and move a bit, the uniformity seems to be normal.

Anyway, moving on to the main issue, Backlight Bleed. As you all know, a perfect monitor without any backlight bleed is like a unicorn. Not surprisingly, my replacement also has bleed. There is bleed in all 4 corners, but tbh the lower corners are very minor and not noticeable at all. It is almost entirely masked by IPS glow.

The bleed in the upper corners are more pronounced. I've included pictures. Please let me know what you think. The first one is overexposed and nowhere near as bad as it is in reality. The second picture is an accurate representation of what I really see.







My settings for the first three pictures are Brightness:100 with ULMB enabled. Pulse Width: 90. The fourth picture is without ULMB and Brightness: 32. Even then, the camera pic exaggerates the issue.

I'm contemplating on whether or not to return it. I really don't want to play Frisbee with Newegg. It's a hassle to return it. I don't have a car so I have to walk for nearly a mile with this 22 pounds package in a Snow if i want to drop it off at UPS. The bleed is not noticeable at all in regular use and is only visible in completely pitch black scenes. It is not even noticeable on normal scenes in a completely pitch black room. What do you guys think?

NOTE: The Brightness set to 100 is only with ULMB ON. No sane person would ever run this monitor at 100 brightness. Even at 100 brightness with ULMB, it is still dimmer than 30 brightness without ULMB. The fourth picture is without ULMB at 32 brightness.
Edited by Me Boosta - 1/25/16 at 9:52pm
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Hey Guys! I could use your advice.

So I got my replacement monitor. This one is a September model which can be overclocked to 165 Hz. There is one single dead (or maybe stuck) pixel in the upper left corner. Honestly, I won't ever notice it unless I go looking for it. And I don't think a single dead pixel is a reason for an RMA.

I RMA'ed the previous model because of terrible uniformity. The monitor was like a tri-color flag with the left having a very yellowish tint and the right had a blue tint. The replacement is far better, but there is still uniformity issues on the corners where there is glow and bleed. I'm going to infer that this is common place in all IPS monitors. I've used several Dell U3415 monitors in my college labs that have the same issue. I know it's caused by the glow because if I tilt my head and move a bit, the uniformity seems to be normal.

Anyway, moving on to the main issue, Backlight Bleed. As you all know, a perfect monitor without any backlight bleed is like a unicorn. Not surprisingly, my replacement also has bleed. There is bleed in all 4 corners, but tbh the lower corners are very minor and not noticeable at all. It is almost entirely masked by IPS glow.

The bleed in the upper corners are more pronounced. I've included pictures. Please let me know what you think. The first one is overexposed and nowhere near as bad as it is in reality. The second picture is an accurate representation of what I really see.







My settings for the first three pictures are Brightless:100 with ULMB enabled. Pulse Width: 90. The fourth picture is without ULMB and Brightness: 32. Even then, the camera pic exaggerates the issue.

I'm contemplating on whether or not to return it. I really don't want to play Frisbee with Newegg. It's a hassle to return it. I don't have a car so I have to walk for nearly a mile with this 22 pounds package in a Snow if i want to drop it off at UPS. The bleed is not noticeable at all in regular use and is only visible in completely pitch black scenes. It is not even noticeable on normal scenes in a completely pitch black room. What do you guys think?
thats normal for IPS panels i had 4 replacements and they had all of those yellowish thing on the corner i say keep it
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thats normal for IPS panels i had 4 replacements and they had all of those yellowish thing on the corner i say keep it

Yeah, I'm aware that that type of glow is common for IPS monitors and I'm not really concerned that much about it. The glow is not noticeable at all in bright backgrounds. I just wanted to know what this thread thought about the backlight bleed.
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Yeah, I'm aware that that type of glow is common for IPS monitors and I'm not really concerned that much about it. The glow is not noticeable at all in bright backgrounds. I just wanted to know what this thread thought about the backlight bleed.

If that's at brightness 100 then it looks good.

Try cutting brightness back to 50 or so. I also found the angle of the monitor can have an affect on noticeable light bleed.


Have mine setup,

Brightness 50
Contrast 50
Gamma 2.5 (Just think things look better with a higher gamma on this monitor)
Color temp Warm

I turn the pixel OC thing off since I think it makes the image look fuzzy.

I set Digital vibrance to 60% in Nvidia control panel for a little extra "pop".


Might not give you a 100% accurate image, but, I found these to be the best looking general settings for mine.
     
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If that's at brightness 100 then it looks good.

Try cutting brightness back to 50 or so. I also found the angle of the monitor can have an affect on noticeable light bleed.


Have mine setup,

Brightness 50
Contrast 50
Gamma 2.5 (Just think things look better with a higher gamma on this monitor)
Color temp Warm

I turn the pixel OC thing off since I think it makes the image look fuzzy.

I set Digital vibrance to 60% in Nvidia control panel for a little extra "pop".


Might not give you a 100% accurate image, but, I found these to be the best looking general settings for mine.

It's 100 Brightness with ULMB ON. Even at 100 brightness with ULMB, it is still dimmer than 30 brightness without ULMB. If i used 100 brightness without ULMB, my eyes would go blind within a day or two XD. When i have ULMB switched off, I use around 30-35 brightness.

I'm really not sure what settings to use on this monitor. TFT Central's setting don't work as great with the newer models. The newer ones definitely have a more yellow tint (similar to the default settings of the XB271HU) than the previous XB270HUs, but nothing a good calibration can't fix. The settings that i use now are Brightness: 32 without ULMB, 100 with ULMB. Contrast: 50. Gamma: 2.2. RGB Settings 48/44/50. And an ICC profile that i found in the XB270HU owner's club. With these settings, I reduced the Yellow Tint significantly, but i still feel that i can do better.

I've also tried Digital Vibrance, but it didn't really make a huge difference for me. In fact, the colors pop more at my default settings than with Digital Vibrance for some reason. Guess i need to tweak some other settings along with the Digital Vibrance.
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Ah yea, that ULMB reduces brightness. I tested it out a few times and couldn't get over how dark it made the screen. Also not being able to use with Gsync was a no go for me.

I tested out a few of the suggested settings along the way. It was only in the last month or two that I said to hell with them and started using the settings I use now.

I set it up like this while playing through Far Cry 4. At the previous settings everything was just too bland for me. Now that my eyes readjusted to a slightly brighter screen it looks pretty good without going overboard. I do tend to play with the lights on. Though, the room is dimly lit.

I really do suggest testing out disabling the pixel overclock. Man, that one setting just made everything too fuzzy. Honestly I can't tell the difference between it on or off, other then things look cleaner with it off.
     
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Hey Guys! I could use your advice.

Even at 100 brightness with ULMB, it is still dimmer than 30 brightness without ULMB.

Only if your pulse width is really low. With ULMB on (120 Hz) and pulse width at 100, I find 55 brightness to be very similar to 22 brightness without ULMB (these are the settings I use). Also I find pulse width adjustment to be useless, the image does not get cleaner by lowering it.
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Only if your pulse width is really low. With ULMB on (120 Hz) and pulse width at 100, I find 55 brightness to be very similar to 22 brightness without ULMB (these are the settings I use). Also I find pulse width adjustment to be useless, the image does not get cleaner by lowering it.

My Pulse Width is at 90. And yes, lowering the pulse width has very diminishing results. I honestly don't know about the brightness on my monitor though. Before I explain, my XB270HU is the newer model with the new firmware. And the monitor definitely has a more yellow tint to it than my previous XB270HU. But that’s nothing a good calibration can't fix. Unfortunately, i do not have a calibrator and the recommended settings by TFT Central aren't that great for the updated model. I'm currently using 48/44/50 for RGB. It's much better than the default settings but I still feel that i could do better. ULMB also affects colours, and for me turning on ULMB greatly reduces the yellow tint. The difference in color is one of the main reasons i can't accurate gauge which is brighter (Brightness 100 with ULMB or Brightness 32 without ULMB).
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My Pulse Width is at 90. And yes, lowering the pulse width has very diminishing results. I honestly don't know about the brightness on my monitor though. Before I explain, my XB270HU is the newer model with the new firmware. And the monitor definitely has a more yellow tint to it than my previous XB270HU. But that’s nothing a good calibration can't fix. Unfortunately, i do not have a calibrator and the recommended settings by TFT Central aren't that great for the updated model. I'm currently using 48/44/50 for RGB. It's much better than the default settings but I still feel that i could do better. ULMB also affects colours, and for me turning on ULMB greatly reduces the yellow tint. The difference in color is one of the main reasons i can't accurate gauge which is brighter (Brightness 100 with ULMB or Brightness 32 without ULMB).

ULMB also makes my screen a bit cooler (color temp) so I lower the Blue value to compensate. I have a much older model although it does have 120 Hz ULMB at least (no 165 Hz overclock mode).
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