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Originally Posted by ChrisxIxCross View Post

Nope panel ships at 60hz by default and the manual says you can OC "at your own risk" up to 100hz.

Yes that was all known, but TFTCentral states in its review that it was going to clarify those questions with Acer.
post #2732 of 6126
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Originally Posted by ZombieSmash View Post

No confirmation yet on whether Acer guarantees that panels will run at 100hz?

 

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Originally Posted by ChrisxIxCross View Post


Nope panel ships at 60hz by default and the manual says you can OC "at your own risk" up to 100hz.

 

OcUK confirmed with Acer that running the monitor @ 100 Hz does NOT void the warranty.

post #2733 of 6126
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Originally Posted by -terabyte- View Post


OcUK confirmed with Acer that running the monitor @ 100 Hz does NOT void the warranty.
Oh ok cool I hope all retailers will not consider OC voiding the warranty. Looking to pick one up on Newegg as soon as it hits the US!
post #2734 of 6126
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OcUK confirmed with Acer that running the monitor @ 100 Hz does NOT void the warranty.

Yes I know that too, but what happens when your monitor is unable to run at 100hz? Out of a small sample of sold units there are already 2 or 3 confirmed instances of panels not reaching 100hz. It is conceivable that once the X34 becomes available world wide that there will be more complaints of units not achieving 100hz, and quite possibly below 95hz.
post #2735 of 6126
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Originally Posted by ZombieSmash View Post


Yes I know that too, but what happens when your monitor is unable to run at 100hz? Out of a small sample of sold units there are already 2 or 3 confirmed instances of panels not reaching 100hz. It is conceivable that once the X34 becomes available world wide that there will be more complaints of units not achieving 100hz, and quite possibly below 95hz.

 

So far I've heard of 2 peoples (at least on here) reaching only 95 Hz instead of 100 Hz. For the price they ask I'd want a perfect panel but for only 5 Hz personally I wouldn't mind, if the panel has no other issues of course.

 

We haven't heard anyone having troubles and reaching only lower values (like 70-80) so I'm hopeful for the future. We'll see how it goes once the monitor starts selling more.

post #2736 of 6126
Yeah, I think it would be rather annoying to receive a flawless panel that only hit 90-95Hz but had zero bleed and hardly any IPS glow. That would be a VERY tough call as to whether to return or not... even though you would be entitled to based on how this monitor has been advertised, both by resellers and Acer themselves. I don't know where this idea comes from that the word 'guarantee' needs to be plastered all over it. They say 100Hz in the video and on their website, and resellers (like OCUK) are selling this monitor as 100Hz, with no suggestion or small print to the contrary, therefore that's what you should get! You won't notice 5Hz though, that's for sure... but for some people it may just be the principle.

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Edited by atomicus - 9/18/15 at 6:58pm
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post #2737 of 6126
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For the price they ask I'd want a perfect panel but for only 5 Hz personally I wouldn't mind, if the panel has no other issues of course.

For the price I expect nothing less than 100hz.
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Originally Posted by -terabyte- View Post

We haven't heard anyone having troubles and reaching only lower values (like 70-80) so I'm hopeful for the future. We'll see how it goes once the monitor starts selling more.

Sure, but as I said before the first sample of sales were in all likelihood tiny. I wouldn't be surprised if once it becomes widely available that reports start coming in of panels not reaching anywhere near 100hz. Imagine if you get a panel that can only manage 65hz, you would be less than impressed if Acer's stance is tough luck.
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That would be a VERY tough call as to whether to return or not... even though you would be entitled to based on how this monitor has been advertised, both by resellers and Acer themselves. I don't know where this idea comes from that the word 'guarantee' needs to be plastered all over it. They say 100Hz in the video and on their website, and resellers (like OCUK) are selling this monitor as 100Hz, with no suggestion or small print to the contrary, therefore that's what you should get! You won't notice 5Hz though, that's for sure... but for some people it may just be the principle. smile.gif

There have already been many posts explaining that the expression "up to" has a very specific meaning in marketing that has consistently been interpreted by courts to mean any value between two stated amounts. The only Acer promotional material I have seen that suggests a definite 100hz refresh rate is that single promo video, everything else is caveated as "up to 100hz". And the only reseller I have seen specifying an unambiguous 100hz refresh rate is OC UK....see for example:

http://www.very.co.uk/acer-predator-x34bmiphz-34-inch-curved-219-ultrawide-qhd-ips-led-zeroframe-g-sync-gaming-monitor/1461312442.prd

No mention at all of any refresh rate.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/34-acer-predator-x34-curved-nvidia-g-sync-gaming-monitor-ips-60hz-3440x1440-4ms-10001-tilt-dp-hdmi-u

60hz refresh rate, with a "Boost your refresh rate up to 100Hz with built-in overclocking."

http://www.techbuy.com.au/p/398088/MONITORS_30_LCD_AND_LARGER/Acer/UM.CX1SA.002-D10.asp

60hz refresh rate.

http://www.acer.com.au/ac/en/AU/content/model/UM.CX1SA.002

The official Acer product page for Australia doesn't even state the refresh rate.

OC UK may be prepared a to guarantee that all the units it sells will run at 100hz as a matter of good customer service, but that does not appear to be a given with other retailers.

And the word guarantee does not need to be plastered anywhere, but the fact remains that Acer has been using ambiguous language that gives it the right to reject returns if the only complaint is that they can't achieve 100hz. I want to know know what Acer's position is, i.e. do they guarantee a 100hz refresh rate on all panels.
post #2738 of 6126
well personally I found the debate between ACER and ASUS 34 21:9 a little useless but I like to add my 2 cents

1) same panel....I admit the electronic and software behind that can bring some benefit in...but not a breakthrough for sure

2) aestethic...I don't like at all the ASUS stand. to me it looks like it has been designed for 14-16 years old teens. someone said it looks like a thermo nuclear reactor. I agree with the definition.
on the contrary MY PeRSONAL TASTE is for the ACER. It is simply and sleek and a bit stylish but not too much. you will not get annoyed by the look of it in 6 months

3) warranty
that is a little more serious. 3 years are better than 2. OK no fuss
but then again all my monitors have 6+ years and I never had an issue (cross finger)

4) materials
PLASTIC vs PLASTIC...little to fight over here. again you might like the texture of the plastic for this one over the other but is personal taste

5) quality build - control
We have NO CLUE at all on their real processes for build or quality.
The only REAL fact is that ACER shipped out a single faulty batch. All other units are still in the plant or have been shipped recently.
as for ASUS...well I don't remember having see ASUS in the top 5 world class monitor builders.

pls note: I'm not against ASUS but sometimes I don't understand the Extra price they charge for similar components.
That said, the STRYX could be my next VGA as it's in the top 3 panel for the pre OCed
Edited by BethorMorgan - 9/19/15 at 1:09am
post #2739 of 6126
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Originally Posted by BethorMorgan View Post

well personally I found the debate between ACER and ASUS 34 21:9 a little useless but I like to add my 2 cents

1) same panel....I admit the electronic and software behind that can bring some benefit in...but not a breakthrough for sure

2) aestethic...I don't like at all the ASUS stand. to me it looks like it has been designed for 14-16 years old. someone said it looks like a thermo nuclear reactor. I agree with the definition.
on the contrary MY PeRSONAL TASTE is for the ACER. is simply and sleek and a bit stylish but not to much. you will not get annoyed by the look of it in 6 months

3) warranty
that is a little more serious. 3 years are better than 2. OK no fuss
but then again all my monitors have 6+ years and I never had an issue (cross finger)

4) materials
PLASTIC vs PLASTIC...little to fight over here. again you might like the texture of the plastic for this one over the other but is personal taste

5) quality build - control
we have NO CLUE at all on their real processes for build or quality.
the only REAL fact is that ACER shipped out a single faulty batch. All other units are still in the plant or have been shipped recently.
as for ASUS...well I don't remember having see ASUS in the top 5 world class monitor builders.

pls note: I'm not against ASUS but sometimes I don't understand the Extra price they charge for similar components.
That said the STRYX could be my next VGA as it's in the top 3 panel for the pre OCed

and a very important one for me 6) Curve
X34 has a 3000R curve, Asus uses a 3800R curve. For me even the 3000R curve was hardly noticable, 3800R is nearly flat I would imagine, I dont think that you will benefit a lot with such a small curve. I am even thinking of getting the Z35 with its 2000R curve...
post #2740 of 6126
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Originally Posted by SimRacer925 View Post

and a very important one for me 6) Curve
X34 has a 3000R curve, Asus uses a 3800R curve. For me even the 3000R curve was hardly noticeable, 3800R is nearly flat I would imagine, I dont think that you will benefit a lot with such a small curve. I am even thinking of getting the Z35 with its 2000R curve...

I did not know that !

for sure that is important...and I'm fully with you, the more the curve the less you will see glowing or distortion in the corners
ACER has just scored another point for me !
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