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Originally Posted by axiumone View Post

Absolutely no one here wants another argument of 60hz vs higher refresh rates. If you are happy with your purchase. That's all that matters. I'm sure there's an official dell monitor post somewhere on this forum. Please respect the people who are looking forward to THIS display and move along.

You wrapped it up very well. Good job. Ta-ta, move along.
post #3052 of 6126
I was watching this monitor for quite a while, its sounds really impressive! Imgine just a year ago we been dreaming about that kind of a monitor...

I mean look its 3440:1440, 34 inch, G-Sync v2, IPS, and 100 hz!

Ive got a little question though, ive got a 3 years old laptop with 680m Nvidia card, my laptop has display port 1.2 so my question is, will my video card be able to support over 60 hz for this monitor??
I checked 680m stats and it can support 4k up to 60 hz! so will it support 3440:1440 all the way up to 100 hz then?
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Originally Posted by Vladislavs View Post

I checked 680m stats and it can support 4k up to 60 hz! so will it support 3440:1440 all the way up to 100 hz then?

I don't think they're speaking about gaming but just rather basic functionality, browse the web, check your email...
post #3054 of 6126
that that i need, to be able to use it everyday at 100 hz at basic tasks smile.gif but will it support it in windows mode?
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Originally Posted by toncij View Post

High-end Pascal cards come mid next year (same time as every year).
Yes, that is a bit of a problem. Acer has repackaged and picked good panels to sell them at double the price others ask for the monitor. Panel is not native 100Hz like we have native XB270HU and MG278Q... but just a good overclocked 60Hz panel with a G-Sync module lacking ULMB so one of the best features of G-Sync and fast refresh screens is not there (motion-blur reduction). G-Sync itself prevents tearing and slightly enhances experience when you have bad framerate.

Of course there are good points in favor of X34, just for some people double the price for 50% of G-Sync functionality and 100Hz is maybe not enough. For me not. I play games at 120Hz with ULMB or 144Hz with G-Sync. Unfortunately I prefer ULMB since it is more visible to me. I like the idea of 100Hz, just I'm not satisfied with missing ULMB and with the fact is is not a real fast panel; not sure what happens in 5 years. Also, 1400 eur is quite a lot for such a monitor. I'd rather wait for better panels and all functionality.

That, of course, does not mean people should not buy it. It is a great monitor and 100Hz is 100Hz, much nice motion than 60.

One is the 16nm fab is new...and untested...and you can't go large and power hungry on first generation chips. Don't believe how unreliable a new fab is? Look at how long it took Nvidia to pick between Samsung and TSMC and finally siding with TSMC due to their longer working history and reliability.

Second point is...they will kill their own sales by offering their best card right at the release of the new generation. They will not be able to give any reason at all to their enthusiast market to upgrade their card within 3 years of launch. Whereas when you look at Kepler, people bought the 680, then the Titan came out, then the 780, and most people who bought the 680 eventually upgraded to those cards. And then when Maxwell launched, they started with just the 750 and 750ti. Then released the 980 that some bought, and finally after a while, the Titan X and 980ti which gave people (enthusiast market, again) a reason to upgrade.

Nvidia likes incremental upgrades. They don't want you to buy a card now, and launch another card in a year that completely destroys the card you bought. They put out one card, then 12 months later they bring out another card that is generally just 10-20% faster, so it's better than what they offered before, but not enough to piss off anyone who bought their last gen cards. And then another 6-12 months later they put out an even better card, with 50%+ better performance than their older cards, and people start upgrading again.

If on day one of the Pascal launch, if they come out with their absolute best card, they are going to have nothing interesting to bring to market for 2 to 3 years until Volta comes out. And that would be silly. Even if it were possible with the new 16nm fab. In terms of business, you need to offer a product that is a bit better than your competition, without being too much better/too costly for you. So they just need to put out a slight performance increase, but sell the card on much lower power consumption, wait for AMD to release something else, and then launch a bigger die version themselves, and back/forth they go. Just a quick reference:

FERMI
GTX 580 = 520mm2

KEPLER
GTX 680 = 294mm2
GTX Titan = 551mm2

MAXWELL
GTX 750ti = 148mm2
GTX 980 = 398mm2
GTX Titan X = 601mm2

Do you see the pattern? Small, Medium, Big, restart. Don't think about it based on die size. Because it's really just about transistor count. Pascal at 16nm, even a 294mm2 sized die like the GTX 680, along with HBM2, would result in performance close to the Titan X...and perhaps even higher due to lower heat/power consumption allowing higher clocks.
Hope that helps.
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Pascal Titan is already on testing for cooler. It has 32GB of HBM2 memory. Memory will be made by both Samsung and SK hynix.

http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/86603-nvidia-will-source-hbm2-samsung-sk-hynix/

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gp100-pascal-gpu-spotted-shipping-manifest/
Edited by Zajeb - 9/26/15 at 4:14pm
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Pascal Titan is already on testing for cooler. It has 32GB of HBM2 memory. Memory will be made by both Samsung and SK hynix.

http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/86603-nvidia-will-source-hbm2-samsung-sk-hynix/

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gp100-pascal-gpu-spotted-shipping-manifest/

If you read the article you will notice that it was a guess, no information was confirmed in shipping
post #3058 of 6126
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Originally Posted by Metros View Post

If you read the article you will notice that it was a guess, no information was confirmed in shipping

And your post above is for some reason fact ?
post #3059 of 6126
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Originally Posted by Zajeb View Post

And your post above is for some reason fact ?

Yes, I would say that its a fact that everyone at this point is just guessing about what's in store for pascal. I'm just guessing though.
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I guess the high end Pascal will be released in Q1 2017.
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