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Don't bother. The EVGA GTX 980 Ti K|NGP|N outperforms the Titan X anyway.
So would the vast majority of people if they did an A/B comparison. Hence why VA is used in just about every TV nowadays. An IPS TV (especially one with the quality of high end IPS monitors) would make people vomit and cry. VA has got to be the reason why the Z35 costs more than the X34.

These days I think both TN and IPS suck for entertainment including gaming. VA has much deeper blacks compared to IPS/TN crappy dark grey fake blacks, VA contrast ratio is typically 2x-3x better leading to much better perceived color depth and image quality (far more significant for entertainment than IPS's superior color accuracy), VA doesn't have IPS glow which ruins games, and VA response times and input lag can be plenty good for gaming. TN and IPS both look shallow and washed out next to VA.

I'm most likely going to sell my XB270HU and replace it with a Predator Z35. I'd be dealing with a resolution downgrade but the lack of IPS glow, better blacks, and better contrast are worth it.

I agree with your perspective on this. My issue is I am building a new rig from the ground up this week. I'm not really keen to wait another two months for a monitor. I was thinking of grabbing a cheap 144hz 24" monitor in the interim and then selling it at a loss in order to pick up the Z35 when it comes out.
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Don't bother. The EVGA GTX 980 Ti K|NGP|N outperforms the Titan X anyway.
So would the vast majority of people if they did an A/B comparison. Hence why VA is used in just about every TV nowadays. An IPS TV (especially one with the quality of high end IPS monitors) would make people vomit and cry. VA has got to be the reason why the Z35 costs more than the X34.

These days I think both TN and IPS suck for entertainment including gaming. VA has much deeper blacks compared to IPS/TN crappy dark grey fake blacks, VA contrast ratio is typically 2x-3x better leading to much better perceived color depth and image quality (far more significant for entertainment than IPS's superior color accuracy), VA doesn't have IPS glow which ruins games, and VA response times and input lag can be plenty good for gaming. TN and IPS both look shallow and washed out next to VA.

I'm most likely going to sell my XB270HU and replace it with a Predator Z35. I'd be dealing with a resolution downgrade but the lack of IPS glow, better blacks, and better contrast are worth it.
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Hopefully it will be released in 2 weeks. I'm waiting.
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The ASUS will most likely be more $$$ (ROG tax) or the same price (best case scenario). It won't be less.

I highly doubt the Asus ROG version of X34 will be more expensive because people are already whining and complaining how the X34 price is too high at $1,299.99; The Asus ROG will have a similar price to the X34 to retain competitive pricing. But, anything is possible, only time will tell what will occur.
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Don't bother. The EVGA GTX 980 Ti K|NGP|N outperforms the Titan X anyway.

Not really. Clock for clock TitanX is a faster card (because 980Ti chips are broken and reduced TitanX chips). Kingpin and other editions are only overclocked cards. Most TitanX cards can overclock same or above Kingpin.
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So would the vast majority of people if they did an A/B comparison. Hence why VA is used in just about every TV nowadays. An IPS TV (especially one with the quality of high end IPS monitors) would make people vomit and cry. VA has got to be the reason why the Z35 costs more than the X34.

These days I think both TN and IPS suck for entertainment including gaming. VA has much deeper blacks compared to IPS/TN crappy dark grey fake blacks, VA contrast ratio is typically 2x-3x better leading to much better perceived color depth and image quality (far more significant for entertainment than IPS's superior color accuracy), VA doesn't have IPS glow which ruins games, and VA response times and input lag can be plenty good for gaming. TN and IPS both look shallow and washed out next to VA.

I'm most likely going to sell my XB270HU and replace it with a Predator Z35. I'd be dealing with a resolution downgrade but the lack of IPS glow, better blacks, and better contrast are worth it.

Problem with VA you should be aware of is: color banding, halo effect, black crush and fuzzy text rendering. I've recently tested BenQ 35" (1080) and Samsung 34" (1440) in Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen tech demo. Both displays showed same problems, despite calibration and setup.

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about those resolutions. smile.gif http://www.tweaktown.com/news/47805/japan-display-reveals-17-inch-8k-lcd-panel-120hz/index.html
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Not really. Clock for clock TitanX is a faster card (because 980Ti chips are broken and reduced TitanX chips). Kingpin and other editions are only overclocked cards. Most TitanX cards can overclock same or above Kingpin.

I'm aware clock for clock the Titan X is faster and the only reason the 980 Ti K|NGP|N did better in reviews is due to the clock speed advantage, but what I've seen suggests the 980 Ti K|NGP|N and maybe some of MSI's overclock higher than the Titan X.
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Should I just ditch the idea of EVGA 980 Ti Classified and purchase the Titan X instead then?
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Should I just ditch the idea of EVGA 980 Ti Classified and purchase the Titan X instead then?

No, why would you do that, I do not find a reason to get a Titan X now, apart from if you need the 12GB VRAM, which unless you do renders and video editing, you do not need it. I bought two GTX 980ti Classified
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No, why would you do that, I do not find a reason to get a Titan X now, apart from if you need the 12GB VRAM, which unless you do renders and video editing, you do not need it. I bought two GTX 980ti Classified

Or unless you game at some insanely high resolution, I agree. The difference between the two is small under normal situations. Focus on overclocking your 980 Ti classified.
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I'm aware clock for clock the Titan X is faster and the only reason the 980 Ti K|NGP|N did better in reviews is due to the clock speed advantage, but what I've seen suggests the 980 Ti K|NGP|N and maybe some of MSI's overclock higher than the Titan X.

That is true. MSI and EVGA usually put better power components to custom cards which could in turn make 980Ti models clock higher than equivalent TitanX that is a referent design.
Although, I always point out that I had 4 TitanX cards with ASIC from 60-80 and all 4 clocked to 1300 base clock on air (Accellero Xtreme 4). That is very high. smile.gif
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Should I just ditch the idea of EVGA 980 Ti Classified and purchase the Titan X instead then?

No. Unless you play in 4K and plan on keeping it for years to come, no. By the time most games need more than 6GB of VRAM there'll be many more cards. Also, TitanX performance is better only so much that it is not nearly worth it. TitanX is for when you play in 4K at max details and AA and multiple TitanX configs that can run it.
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