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The titanX is incredibly underestimated. Mine runs at 1467 Max i believe. My brother owns the Evga Kingpin and the card is a total dud on air. Don't get me wrong its gorgeous. But it artifacts at +10 mhz. Try and put +50mhz on the memory.....artifacts. if your gonna spend 1000$ on a gpu get the titan. These high spec aftermarket cards are kinda a waste of time. If you get a good chip its gonna kick ass on a reference pcb. Even the msi lightening only got like 1475 i think in the review I saw. Some of the cards are only a few $ more so no harm in it.....but spend hundreds of dollars extra on a KINGPIN that artifacts at +10 mhz and guess what EVGA tells you when u call them.........

No kidding. I laugh at these lame ass reviews showing the 980 TI outperforming a Titan X. Which part of downgraded hardware do you not understand? I am not saying it can't happen with aggressive overclocking compared to a Stock Titan X - but then again, who runs a stock Titan X? Mine is heavily overclocked as well. Now, if you are comparing a cost to performance ratio, then sure, the 980 TI wins - but I am still pushing more pixels than you. smile.gif
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Thanks for the reply RD. I have thought about what you're saying and those exact thoughts crossed my mind. If I was to get the XR34 , I'm not sure what good it would do since I couldn't run it with my cards I have right now. I don't want to skimp , but if I am going to pay $1200 + for a new monitor , then I'll be forced to buy a $500.00 - $600.00 video card as well. Honestly probably a $1800.00 - $1900.00 upgrade were talking about here. I'm not quite sure if my 7970's would actually run the XR34 , but just poorly....or weather or not they will even run the monitor?? I don't know.

Right now , I know my 7970's can push quite a few games on big screen. Maybe not max for sure , but enough to play them...AND I have a lot of catching up to do. I mean a lot. Basically anything after Half life 2 haha. Sure I may be missing out on some performance without being able to use " FreeSync " , but I think I could get it to work out ok.

Using a descent 34" 1440P monitor could give me some time to catch up on a ton of games , get some actual use out of my two 7970's and give me some time to think on my next upgrade steps. I don't usually cheap out on anything , and when i finally get ready to do new cards and a monitor , I'll do it the right way.

Quick question : Lets say I play something like Crysis 3 on a LG 34UM95 with my 7970's.....what would be a huge advantage of playing that game on the XR34 with a Fury X? I do know one thing though , when I finally upgrade the GPU in this thing , it will be a single card setup. Not that I've had issues or anything , but because most of the racing sims I play are coded to run better off a single GPU , they don't like dual card setups.
    
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Thanks for the reply RD. I have thought about what you're saying and those exact thoughts crossed my mind. If I was to get the XR34 , I'm not sure what good it would do since I couldn't run it with my cards I have right now. I don't want to skimp , but if I am going to pay $1200 + for a new monitor , then I'll be forced to buy a $500.00 - $600.00 video card as well. Honestly probably a $1800.00 - $1900.00 upgrade were talking about here. I'm not quite sure if my 7970's would actually run the XR34 , but just poorly....or weather or not they will even run the monitor?? I don't know.

Right now , I know my 7970's can push quite a few games on big screen. Maybe not max for sure , but enough to play them...AND I have a lot of catching up to do. I mean a lot. Basically anything after Half life 2 haha. Sure I may be missing out on some performance without being able to use " FreeSync " , but I think I could get it to work out ok.

Using a descent 34" 1440P monitor could give me some time to catch up on a ton of games , get some actual use out of my two 7970's and give me some time to think on my next upgrade steps. I don't usually cheap out on anything , and when i finally get ready to do new cards and a monitor , I'll do it the right way.

Quick question : Lets say I play something like Crysis 3 on a LG 34UM95 with my 7970's.....what would be a huge advantage of playing that game on the XR34 with a Fury X? I do know one thing though , when I finally upgrade the GPU in this thing , it will be a single card setup. Not that I've had issues or anything , but because most of the racing sims I play are coded to run better off a single GPU , they don't like dual card setups.
Tbh, unless you are making a jump from a TN or low quality VA panel, you won't notice a huge difference in image fidelity. Also, if you aren't playing games now, you won't even with your new setup.
If you play Asserto Corsa and stuff, it'd be a cool upgrade but then you might want to try the Benq.
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OK. My X34 arrived a couple of days ago. A quick review from a casual gamer perspective:

Coming from a 6 year old 24'' 120 Hz LG, monitor is amazing. 100 HZ working, no coil whine, bearable for me BLB (or IPS glow?, can't really tell the difference). DPI is extremely good, animation in games is fluid thanks to Gsync even at below 30 FPS, that's with a single 980ti.

That aside, banding issue is present - mine is from the first batch from Alternate. It isn't really noticeacle, neither on desktop, nor in games, but if you look for it it's there. I'll be contacting Acer support for the V2 firmware, beacause i want to apply it myself. I can't really send the monitor all the way back to Germany just for that.

Some pics, can't find the time to make videos












And some from games, don't have the time to make videos currently.










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Originally Posted by Sephirothbg View Post

OK. My X34 arrived a couple of days ago. A quick review from a casual gamer perspective:

Coming from a 6 year old 24'' 120 Hz LG, monitor is amazing. 100 HZ working, no coil whine, bearable for me BLB (or IPS glow?, can't really tell the difference). DPI is extremely good, animation in games is fluid thanks to Gsync even at below 30 FPS, that's with a single 980ti.

That aside, banding issue is present - mine is from the first batch from Alternate. It isn't really noticeacle, neither on desktop, nor in games, but if you look for it it's there. I'll be contacting Acer support for the V2 firmware, beacause i want to apply it myself. I can't really send the monitor all the way back to Germany just for that.

You can ask, but I don't think they will let you apply the firmware yourself, so if you want it fixed you'd have no choice but to send it back. It won't cost you anything, it's a faulty product.

The glow and bleed on your all black screen there looks pretty bad, but the rest look OK. That's the problem with pictures though, they can exaggerate it, but then I've also found some games with dark scenes in a room with the lights off (Elite Dangerous for example), will really bring it out and make it obvious.
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If this has happened to Asus, they'd enable you to apply firmware yourself (they did for my PQ321Qs).

Btw - someone mentioned Pascal is coming in 2017 biggrin.gif - http://www.tweaktown.com/news/47824/nvidia-showed-next-gen-hbm-based-pascal-gpu-japan-recently/index.html

17 billion transistors, 213% the number of transistors of TitanX and HBM2 memory in the amount of 16GB with 4096 bandwidth speed. Yikes! With zero architecture changes, that has a huge potential to be abnormally fast!
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You can ask, but I don't think they will let you apply the firmware yourself, so if you want it fixed you'd have no choice but to send it back. It won't cost you anything, it's a faulty product.

The glow and bleed on your all black screen there looks pretty bad, but the rest look OK. That's the problem with pictures though, they can exaggerate it, but then I've also found some games with dark scenes in a room with the lights off (Elite Dangerous for example), will really bring it out and make it obvious.

Yes, the glow looks pretty bad on pics but in practice it's not visible at all. I'll try Elite these days to see how it is there, but I intend to play it on the Oculus a few months from now, so it's not really an issue.
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Originally Posted by Sephirothbg View Post

OK. My X34 arrived a couple of days ago. A quick review from a casual gamer perspective:

Coming from a 6 year old 24'' 120 Hz LG, monitor is amazing. 100 HZ working, no coil whine, bearable for me BLB (or IPS glow?, can't really tell the difference). DPI is extremely good, animation in games is fluid thanks to Gsync even at below 30 FPS, that's with a single 980ti.

That aside, banding issue is present - mine is from the first batch from Alternate. It isn't really noticeacle, neither on desktop, nor in games, but if you look for it it's there. I'll be contacting Acer support for the V2 firmware, beacause i want to apply it myself. I can't really send the monitor all the way back to Germany just for that.

Some pics, can't find the time to make videos

I contacted acer myself (UK and BE) since i had the monitor a week ago with banding issues and they specifically told me they will not release the firmware.. only way to get the new firmware is to send it to a repair center or rma it via the shop you purchased it from (your case alternate).

You can try to contact acer directly aswell and maybe they have a repair center in your country/near you if your lucky. For a monitor that expensive you rlly should not have to deal with the banding issue like that. Ship that puppy back asap imo !

Edit: Pics (rlly look at blue/gray scale pic and the witcher one)
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Originally Posted by toncij View Post

If this has happened to Asus, they'd enable you to apply firmware yourself (they did for my PQ321Qs).

Btw - someone mentioned Pascal is coming in 2017 biggrin.gif - http://www.tweaktown.com/news/47824/nvidia-showed-next-gen-hbm-based-pascal-gpu-japan-recently/index.html

17 billion transistors, 213% the number of transistors of TitanX and HBM2 memory in the amount of 16GB with 4096 bandwidth speed. Yikes! With zero architecture changes, that has a huge potential to be abnormally fast!

Yeah, they showed it off, it could have been GP104 (mid end Pascal) we do not have any information

Read this comment, do not just "read one line" then comment back saying something "no, NVIDIA is releasing it in Q2 2016"


One is the 16nm fab is new...and untested...and you can't go large and power hungry on first generation chips. Don't believe how unreliable a new fab is? Look at how long it took Nvidia to pick between Samsung and TSMC and finally siding with TSMC due to their longer working history and reliability.

Second point is...they will kill their own sales by offering their best card right at the release of the new generation. They will not be able to give any reason at all to their enthusiast market to upgrade their card within 3 years of launch. Whereas when you look at Kepler, people bought the 680, then the Titan came out, then the 780, and most people who bought the 680 eventually upgraded to those cards. And then when Maxwell launched, they started with just the 750 and 750ti. Then released the 980 that some bought, and finally after a while, the Titan X and 980ti which gave people (enthusiast market, again) a reason to upgrade.

Nvidia likes incremental upgrades. They don't want you to buy a card now, and launch another card in a year that completely destroys the card you bought. They put out one card, then 12 months later they bring out another card that is generally just 10-20% faster, so it's better than what they offered before, but not enough to piss off anyone who bought their last gen cards. And then another 6-12 months later they put out an even better card, with 50%+ better performance than their older cards, and people start upgrading again.

If on day one of the Pascal launch, if they come out with their absolute best card, they are going to have nothing interesting to bring to market for 2 to 3 years until Volta comes out. And that would be silly. Even if it were possible with the new 16nm fab. In terms of business, you need to offer a product that is a bit better than your competition, without being too much better/too costly for you. So they just need to put out a slight performance increase, but sell the card on much lower power consumption, wait for AMD to release something else, and then launch a bigger die version themselves, and back/forth they go. Just a quick reference:

FERMI
GTX 580 = 520mm2

KEPLER
GTX 680 = 294mm2
GTX Titan = 551mm2

MAXWELL
GTX 750ti = 148mm2
GTX 980 = 398mm2
GTX Titan X = 601mm2

Do you see the pattern? Small, Medium, Big, restart. Don't think about it based on die size. Because it's really just about transistor count. Pascal at 16nm, even a 294mm2 sized die like the GTX 680, along with HBM2, would result in performance close to the Titan X...and perhaps even higher due to lower heat/power consumption allowing higher clocks.
Hope that helps.



They still got the GTX 990 to sell, that is not even out yet, so why would they release high end Pascal in Q1 or Q2 2016, people would not buy the GTX 990 then

Also it was HBM1 that went short, you would look at the article on this website (might of been Kitguru)

Also read the articles about Volta releasing in 2018



This is shortage of HBM1 article

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/45835/amd-radeon-fury-rumored-limited-30-000-units-2015/index.html

This is Volta in 2018

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-shilov/nvidia-changes-roadmap-volta-is-now-due-in-2018/




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Originally Posted by toncij View Post

Faster cards than TitanX will be out way before 2017 Q2. Already Q2/Q3 2016.

6GB is not enough for some games in 4K, 5K etc. like multiple 4K...

The GTX 1080 (mid end) will be a bit slower than the Titan X (if Pascal overclocks well, it might have the same performance) high end Pascal is Q2 2017
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