Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Monitors and Displays › [TFTCentral] Acer Predator XR341CK 34" Curved Gaming Screen with G-sync
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[TFTCentral] Acer Predator XR341CK 34" Curved Gaming Screen with G-sync - Page 494

post #4931 of 6126
Quote:
Originally Posted by hatlesschimp View Post

Acer are sending us one for testing. However over the last few days at Pax I tried the monitor on every pc configuration imaginable with different games. There was good experience's and bad! Its hard to gauge what the cause was because hardware and driver info were hard to come by. Certain companies had reasons not to share what was in the case! Others had sli 980ti's etc. When I say bad experience I mean it felt like I was gaming at 60hz with GSync off with some screen tearing and motion blur. Basically what you get with my LG 34uc97 when I use sli. Its not a deal breaker on that it's the price you paid for the GSync and 100hz smoothness that is not there! In right conditions this monitor is the best ever. Hope this makes sense.

Thanks for sharing your PAX experiences. I understand what you say in the above post. But the issue SmokeyBear, Smoobandit and drfish were talking about is completely unrelated to other issues that are generally caused by the variability in drivers, GPUs, OS etc. all of which can be rectified with some effort. For eg., it is possible that on the units where you detected tearing, the persons who set it up forgot to turn on G-sync. The show floor can be very messy place to evaluate something as I understand it.

If you could take a closer look at our discussion over the previous few pages of thread, we are discussing a fundamental image quality issue which by all accounts does not seem like it can be rectified with driver updates (maybe firmware might but that is still a difficult proposition). If you are part of the media, I hope you can check if your test unit has the Horizontal lines issue when G-sync is ON and expose that to ACER.

EDIT: see Fragmachine's post here for a quicker understanding of the issue http://community.acer.com/t5/Predator-Discussions/MULTIPLE-Problems-with-New-X34/td-p/390434/page/20
Edited by Mountainlifter - 11/1/15 at 6:39pm
post #4932 of 6126
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountainlifter View Post

Thanks for sharing your PAX experiences. I understand what you say in the above post. But the issue SmokeyBear, Smoobandit and drfish were talking about is completely unrelated to other issues that are generally caused by the variability in drivers, GPUs, OS etc. all of which can be rectified with some effort. For eg., it is possible that on the units where you detected tearing, the persons who set it up forgot to turn on G-sync. The show floor can be very messy place to evaluate something as I understand it.

If you could take a closer look at our discussion over the previous few pages of thread, we are discussing a fundamental image quality issue which by all accounts does not seem like it can be rectified with driver updates (maybe firmware might but that is still a difficult proposition). If you are part of the media, I hope you can check if your test unit has the Horizontal lines issue when G-sync is ON and expose that to ACER.

We have been waiting patiently for it but last week we were like stuff it we want one permanently in the office, but Australia wide is sold out. Eventually we will get one and test it out.
post #4933 of 6126
Quote:
Originally Posted by clubber_lang View Post

HA! I hate to break the bad news to you , but I don't really care. Super smooth game play on my sims is all I care about. And I never said the monitor was capable of those 110fps , but my new card is , which is awesome to have a card with some major overhead compared to my monitor! I was working my 7970's to death trying to run this thing , and with my sims maxxed out. Not any more , so go piss in someone else' cheerios bruh!
hey dude you got the wrong guy lol i don't even know what you are talking about.
post #4934 of 6126
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackforce View Post

hey dude you got the wrong guy lol i don't even know what you are talking about.

Whoops sorry man! My bad. I meant to qoute the guy Atomicus.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 2600K Asus Sabertooth Z77 Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X  16GB Corsair Vegenance 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
2 X 1TB Cav black  1 X samsung 830 120GB Win 7 X64 pro Acer XR34CK FreeSync version 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logiteck wireless K800 Seasonic Platium 1000W PSU CM Storm Trooper Razer Naga 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 2600K Asus Sabertooth Z77 Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X  16GB Corsair Vegenance 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
2 X 1TB Cav black  1 X samsung 830 120GB Win 7 X64 pro Acer XR34CK FreeSync version 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logiteck wireless K800 Seasonic Platium 1000W PSU CM Storm Trooper Razer Naga 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4935 of 6126
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountainlifter View Post

Thanks for sharing your PAX experiences. I understand what you say in the above post. But the issue SmokeyBear, Smoobandit and drfish were talking about is completely unrelated to other issues that are generally caused by the variability in drivers, GPUs, OS etc. all of which can be rectified with some effort. For eg., it is possible that on the units where you detected tearing, the persons who set it up forgot to turn on G-sync. The show floor can be very messy place to evaluate something as I understand it.

If you could take a closer look at our discussion over the previous few pages of thread, we are discussing a fundamental image quality issue which by all accounts does not seem like it can be rectified with driver updates (maybe firmware might but that is still a difficult proposition). If you are part of the media, I hope you can check if your test unit has the Horizontal lines issue when G-sync is ON and expose that to ACER.

EDIT: see Fragmachine's post here for a quicker understanding of the issue http://community.acer.com/t5/Predator-Discussions/MULTIPLE-Problems-with-New-X34/td-p/390434/page/20

Is there a thread on the Nvidia forums discussing this issue? I posted in the Acer forum but want to say something to Nvidia as well. If I send mine in to be replaced I want to make sure someone takes a look at it for this specific problem instead of "fixing" it and sending the problem to someone else later on.
post #4936 of 6126
Quote:
Originally Posted by hatlesschimp View Post

Acer are sending us one for testing. However over the last few days at Pax I tried the monitor on every pc configuration imaginable with different games. There was good experience's and bad! Its hard to gauge what the cause was because hardware and driver info were hard to come by. Certain companies had reasons not to share what was in the case! Others had sli 980ti's etc. When I say bad experience I mean it felt like I was gaming at 60hz with GSync off with some screen tearing and motion blur. Basically what you get with my LG 34uc97 when I use sli. Its not a deal breaker on that it's the price you paid for the GSync and 100hz smoothness that is not there! In right conditions this monitor is the best ever. Hope this makes sense.
It might be an issue with individual games but from my quick tests with skypine on his monitor, it could just as easily be a setting issue. Ie windowed mode vs full screen which basically disables the sync and becomes a stuffer fest. Turning witcher3 back to full screen resolves this. Anyway it looks like activity in this thread has slowed down quite some

This horizontal lines issue- am I right to say only one user has reported it?
post #4937 of 6126
No, there are at least three of us with it so far, me, smoobandit and SmokeyBear.

I'm pretty convinced it effects more people, they just haven't noticed it. I certainly can't see it in most games unless I look really, REALLY closely for it but it is there. It's just more obvious in certain scenarios (high contrast or detailed patterns that can be interrupted by it).

That said, even with the problem playing DayZ on this screen for 6 hours or so this weekend (with the hotfix driver!) was just awesome, it really made the ~25fps I see a lot of the time much more tolerable. I had a great time and mostly forgot about the horizontal line issue. If I become convinced that replacing the monitor will fix the problem then of course I will do it, but for now I'm happy to keep using it while things develop and I learn more.
post #4938 of 6126
Quote:
Originally Posted by clubber_lang View Post

HA! I hate to break the bad news to you , but I don't really care. Super smooth game play on my sims is all I care about. And I never said the monitor was capable of those 110fps , but my new card is , which is awesome to have a card with some major overhead compared to my monitor! I was working my 7970's to death trying to run this thing , and with my sims maxxed out. Not any more , so go piss in someone else' cheerios bruh!

You misunderstand. Obviously smoothness is what counts, I was simply addressing your statement that seemed to suggest you thought you were 'seeing' 110FPS when for all intents and purposes you are not, because a 75Hz monitor is not capable of anything above 75FPS visibly. There would be a noticeable difference were your monitor capable of 110. Of course, if your card was only capable of 75FPS that would be worse and you'd therefore be getting bigger dips below that, so obviously it's great to have a powerful card that can push high frame rates, you just won't see anything above 75... but you will get the benefit of a more consistent 75, which is great of course. I am not pis*ing in your Cheerios "bruh", I am simply pointing out a fact which I wasn't clear you were aware of, but if you are and are happy then that's all that matters.
I AM TITANIUM
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7-6800K MSI X99A XPower Gaming Titanium EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FOUNDERS EDITION Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB (4x8GB) 3000MHz... 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 950 Pro 256GB M.2 SanDisk Ultra II SSD 960GB Hynix SSD 500GB EKWB Custom loop 
OSMonitorKeyboardCase
Windows 10 Pro 64bit Acer Predator X34 Logitech K800 InWin 303 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech G900 Corsair MM300 Sennheiser DT 990 Pro (250OHM) 
  hide details  
Reply
I AM TITANIUM
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7-6800K MSI X99A XPower Gaming Titanium EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FOUNDERS EDITION Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB (4x8GB) 3000MHz... 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 950 Pro 256GB M.2 SanDisk Ultra II SSD 960GB Hynix SSD 500GB EKWB Custom loop 
OSMonitorKeyboardCase
Windows 10 Pro 64bit Acer Predator X34 Logitech K800 InWin 303 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech G900 Corsair MM300 Sennheiser DT 990 Pro (250OHM) 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4939 of 6126
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountainlifter View Post

Thanks for sharing your PAX experiences. I understand what you say in the above post. But the issue SmokeyBear, Smoobandit and drfish were talking about is completely unrelated to other issues that are generally caused by the variability in drivers, GPUs, OS etc. all of which can be rectified with some effort. For eg., it is possible that on the units where you detected tearing, the persons who set it up forgot to turn on G-sync. The show floor can be very messy place to evaluate something as I understand it.

If you could take a closer look at our discussion over the previous few pages of thread, we are discussing a fundamental image quality issue which by all accounts does not seem like it can be rectified with driver updates (maybe firmware might but that is still a difficult proposition). If you are part of the media, I hope you can check if your test unit has the Horizontal lines issue when G-sync is ON and expose that to ACER.

EDIT: see Fragmachine's post here for a quicker understanding of the issue http://community.acer.com/t5/Predator-Discussions/MULTIPLE-Problems-with-New-X34/td-p/390434/page/20

u ordered from t258 bro? how long between ordering and your eta?
post #4940 of 6126
Quote:
Originally Posted by drfish View Post

Is there a thread on the Nvidia forums discussing this issue? I posted in the Acer forum but want to say something to Nvidia as well. If I send mine in to be replaced I want to make sure someone takes a look at it for this specific problem instead of "fixing" it and sending the problem to someone else later on.

What I found so far:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/857348/gsync-problems/?offset=13 This is the closest I found to someone reporting this problem in the geforce forums. The first post reports some horizontal lines when gsync is on but it's on a different monitor.

Quote:
Originally Posted by athenaesword View Post

u ordered from t258 bro? how long between ordering and your eta?

Hey Athenaesword, Yeah, I ordered from t258jgn on HWZ. Might be surprising that I did that since I've been talking about the issues a lot but I have to buy something and reimburse it by mid-november from my workplace. hah! So, I decided to enter the world of monitor problems. The ETA is based on when the next ACER shipment to Singapore is and that is supposed to be Nov 6th. Even so, t258jgn does not guarantee a unit for me because I'm 7th in the queue.

BTW koroshiya8's MFG date is August. This is what I was worried about from the start: Old stock getting dumped in Singapore. Happened with my PG278Q last year, and it's happening again.
Quote:
Originally Posted by athenaesword View Post

It might be an issue with individual games but from my quick tests with skypine on his monitor, it could just as easily be a setting issue. Ie windowed mode vs full screen which basically disables the sync and becomes a stuffer fest. Turning witcher3 back to full screen resolves this. Anyway it looks like activity in this thread has slowed down quite some

This horizontal lines issue- am I right to say only one user has reported it?

Now there are four: Frag Machine, Smoobandit, SmokeytheBear, and drfish. The first person was the last on the scene and has posted a long writeup on the "multiple problems" acer thread. I am trying to get a headstart on understanding this issue since I know I'm unlucky enough to get one with it. haha
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Monitors and Displays
Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Monitors and Displays › [TFTCentral] Acer Predator XR341CK 34" Curved Gaming Screen with G-sync