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Doesn't Gsync help too with fps fluctuation though? Like on DA: Inquistion or other games where the frame rate may take a hit in certain areas, etc. I have 980 ti in SLI and mine would dip in a lot of areas from 120 down to 85.
Edited by Crimson AL - 11/5/15 at 10:27am
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Cant remember now does XR34 the freesync version have same problem when using it's Freesync feature?
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It does seem kind of pointless buying an expensive G-Sync monitor if you have to also buy powerful cards to keep your FPS at the top end all the time... where G-Sync won't be of that much benefit. It helps with the big dips and when it struggles... but that's where you get lines it seems? All things being equal, I guess you could say "ah well, at least I get 100hz", but this monitor comes with huge premium specifically for that G-Sync capability! So all you're really getting is 100hz for your money, when you could get 75Hz and no lines with the much cheaper Freesync version (if you have an AMD card). Something to think about...
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It does seem kind of pointless buying a G-Sync monitor if you have to also buy powerful cards to keep your FPS at the top end all the time... where G-Sync won't be of that much benefit. It helps with the big dips and when it struggles... but that's where you get lines it seems? All things being equal, I guess you could say "ah well, at least I get 100hz", but this monitor comes with huge premium specifically for that G-Sync capability! So all you're really getting is 100hz for your money, when you could get 75Hz and no lines with the much cheaper Freesync version (if you have an AMD card). Something to think about...

Would that not be obvious though? I mean who out there who knows anything about tech would think that running a monitor with this resolution would be cheap?

I would imagine most people who are buying this monitor are enthusiasts due to its high price tag. Those enthusiasts are not going to be running it with a single 780 and then wondering why their framerate is low. this is a premium display, meant for high end gaming and software experience. Those who intend to game on it will know that they need high end gear to push it.. same as anyone who wishes to game at 4k should know.

Even at a less than high-high framerate (40-60 I'm talking) Gsync clearly shows its benefits. I was playing Witcher before with Vsync, and the swings I'd get between 70 > 90 > 40 > 56 fps would make for an awfully jarring experience. would feel really sluggish, even though my framerate was most of the time high.

Now I can play with noticably less FPS, sure, but its much smoother experience all around. That's where this monitor makes it worth it.
If you're trying to run games on Ultra or High at 3440x1440 and trying to do so with less than a 980GTX, you're gonna have a bad time. Its just how it is. You gotta pay to play, and if you can afford the steep cost on this monitor, likely you can afford the graphics to run it.
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It does seem kind of pointless buying an expensive G-Sync monitor if you have to also buy powerful cards to keep your FPS at the top end all the time... where G-Sync won't be of that much benefit. It helps with the big dips and when it struggles... but that's where you get lines it seems? All things being equal, I guess you could say "ah well, at least I get 100hz", but this monitor comes with huge premium specifically for that G-Sync capability! So all you're really getting is 100hz for your money, when you could get 75Hz and no lines with the much cheaper Freesync version (if you have an AMD card). Something to think about...

If you've tried g-sync at 100hz, or 144hz, you'd know it does help at high refresh rates more than it does at low refresh rates. Low fps is low fps. With a solid 100 fps and g-sync, games feel buttery smooth with zero tearing. It is a really awesome experience.

Of course you'd need powerful cards to run games in 3440x1440 all maxed out at above 60 fps. It's 70% of 4k. That isn't the monitor or g-sync's fault.

The lines, on my unit (maybe most?), are invisible at arms length, but yeah I agree they are an issue that needs to be squashed sooner rather than later.
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If you've tried g-sync at 100hz, or 144hz, you'd know it does help at high refresh rates more than it does at low refresh rates. Low fps is low fps. With a solid 100 fps and g-sync, games feel buttery smooth with zero tearing. It is a really awesome experience.

Of course you'd need powerful cards to run games in 3440x1440 all maxed out at above 60 fps. It's 70% of 4k. That isn't the monitor or g-sync's fault.

The lines, on my unit (maybe most?), are invisible at arms length, but yeah I agree they are an issue that needs to be squashed sooner rather than later.

I disagree as I feel gsync helped me out a lot more at lower fps. Yes low fps is still low fps at the end of the day but 45 fps with gsync feels so much smoother than 45fps without gsync. It just felt less sluggish and juddery at low frame rates while high frame rates on the other hand are already very smooth to begin with. Just my 2 cents.
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I do agree with much of the above, but at the end of the day if the monitor has 'lines' when running at the lower end... and let's face it, even enthusiasts are going to run in to this problem now and again with certain games... this is a serious problem and one that needs to be addressed. It renders the monitor essentially faulty below a certain threshold. A monitor that people have paid a small fortune for. This is NOT a good thing.
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I disagree as I feel gsync helped me out a lot more at lower fps. Yes low fps is still low fps at the end of the day but 45 fps with gsync feels so much smoother than 45fps without gsync. It just felt less sluggish and juddery at low frame rates while high frame rates on the other hand are already very smooth to begin with. Just my 2 cents.

G-sync is beneficial at a low fps, but not as beneficial as it is at a high one in my opinion.

What I mean by that is 31 fps with g-sync will feel better than 31 fps without g-sync, but it will still feel sluggish compared to a higher fps, and thus not as buttery smooth as say 90 fps with g-sync enabled where it's full benefit can be enjoyed (Smoothness). It's probably best utilized in a 70-90 fps situation where it masks the fluctuations but still feels like a solid and smooth 90 fps, or is more beneficial than it would be in a 30-40 fps range where at best it'll feel like a sluggish 40. I know it's the fps and not gsync making it sluggish at that point, but thats why I feel the benefit of g-sync is less prevalent than it would be at a higher fps. Maybe I shouldn't say it's more beneficial but rather more enjoyable. I find everything a jittery and tearing mess at 100hz+ without gsync.
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I can read some suprising comments here mellowsmiley.gif

So horizontal scanlines aren't a good raison to complain since :

1 - if you bought such an expensive monitor, then you can afford gpu's to keep a constant 100fps and "see? there's no scanlines anymore" rolleyes.gif
2 - g-sync is only useful when running at a rocksolid 100+ fps (in that case, I prefer ULMB, just my opinion...). So we have to play at low/medium settings in order to avoid fps drops meaning scanlines.

Personally, I bought X34 precisely because g-sync is far more useful when fps are between 35-55fps and allows to keep a smooth gameplay in demanding games at such a resolution. And not to mention those games which aren't SLI compliant.

These days, I play Witcher 3 everything maxxed (+ some CFG tweaks) with oc'ed 980ti SLI and at Novigrad, I'm really far from getting 90-100 constant fps but 55-75 and yes, I can see scanlines on the entire left side of the screen.

I don't see the point to lower settings in that kind of game to get constant 100fps since it's a perfectly enjoyable gameplay even at 45fps+Gsync, with sumptuous graphics.

Same for GTA5 and probably Fallout 4 soon wink.gif

That's my opinion but even without considering that, we're talking about a 1300€ monitor and it's not acceptable that such a defect occurs when running the monitor at its official specs.
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For me the killer application of G-Sync is in that just barely under 30fps range. I despise tearing so I always play with vsync on, so on a normal 60Hz display 28fps might as well be 15fps, it's bad - and with my game of choice (DayZ for those of you that haven't read my previous posts) there's just nothing to be done about it, it's all CPU, not GPU.

So yeah, I am driving my X34 with a single 780 but not because I'm dumb or poor - and I'm not wondering why my frame rate sucks either, I know why, the game sucks - BUT G-Sync helps mitigate the problems the game has, undoubtedly so - it just sucks if the horizontal line issue is tied to a frame-rate I can't improve on. Kind of defeats the purpose - but if it's universal then I'm not sure its worth returning since it's awesome otherwise. mad.gifrolleyes.gif
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