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IMHO, you and anyone else with scan line issues should absolutely return your X34s.

What you guys describe and what i've seen with scan line issues on a couple different monitors in the past are totally different experiences compared to what I and a few others with flawless + scan line-free X34s are seeing with ours.

You guys paid the premium price for these X34s just like we did, and you should have a monitor where you're not constantly thinking in the back of your mind how sub-par it is compared to someone else's or feel like a "second-class" owner. If the experience you were looking for based on the price you paid for the X34 is different than mine (and it definitely seems like it is), then you deserve to have one that's just as problem-free. It might suck to go through the RMA hassle and the 2-3-4 weeks without an X34 and whatnot, especially if you don't have a viable backup monitor, but it's better to do it now than drive yourself crazy knowing that you're unhappy with your current X34 on the daily. My 2 cents. thumb.gif

I couldn't agree more, and fired off NCIX an email about returning it after seeing your screen in particular.

I appreciate that, because it has been driving me nuts and will continue to do so even if I'm not seeing the lines, especially when I know there are units without the issue out there. smile.gif
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Problem is that I suspect there's a lot less "flawless" panels than we could imagine.

Unless the ratio is 70/30 in favor of good panels, I'm not sure I have spare time to proceed to 3-4 returns/exchanges to get a perfect monitor :/
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Just because you suspect it does not make it so..

Wow what is with this forum? It's like everyone has just convinced themselves that every display that's been sold has issues though nobody could possibly say so without the relevant data needed to make such an assertion.

If you guys want to believe on a personal level, that's one thing.. But going onto forums and fearmongering is hardly helpful..unless you guys have some real tangible numbers consisting of hundreds of units and their out-of-box working states, all of this talk is merely conjecture.
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Problem is that I suspect there's a lot less "flawless" panels than we could imagine.

Unless the ratio is 70/30 in favor of good panels, I'm not sure I have spare time to proceed to 3-4 returns/exchanges to get a perfect monitor :/

That's ridiculous logic considering that it is ALWAYS the minority that's likely to speak out about their issues while there are many more happy owners that will never care to hop on a forum or Reddit to flaunt about how happy they are with their flawless $1,300 monitor. I'm not sure why the X34 would be of any exception to what is a generally accepted train of thought regarding the "vocal minority."

Echoing what Scoobydooby11 has said, i've provided pictures and spoken to my experience with the X34, as have many other happy owners who have flawless ones. Obviously, you and others do not have the same experience, hence why I recommended an exchange...or go the refund route and don't bother with the product again. But from what i've seen in this thread so far and many others are a few people so glaringly unhappy with what they have that they're seemingly making it a more personal mission to make their experience as "gospel" rather than exceptions.

"Suspecting" that there's a lot less "flawless" panels out there? That's called confirmation bias...because that's exactly the kind of thing you seek out from others when visiting other forums and the like. You're probably honing in on others who also may have issues and not really paying much attention to everyone else who's a happy owner (or those happy owners who don't care to speak up about their positive experience).

I also "suspect" that there are FAR MORE "flawless" panels out there than ones with scan line issues. See what I did there?
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Do not make me say what I did not say, nobody says all X34 are affected by this specific issue but one thing is certain, not all of them are perfect.

If I'm not too confident enough for your taste, it's just because I have 2 X34 at home and both have scanlines (one is severely affected). Yesterday I saw a friend of mine who was unpacking his fresh display.
He also has scanlines and they are almost same as the worst I have.

Plus, we are 3-4 users on that french forum who share the same problem :

http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/HardwarePeripheriques/Ecran/acer-xr341ck-freesync-sujet_65537_13.htm

So, you'll excuse me if by this day, I have doubts to be lucky enough and win the "extra X34 prize" within even 2-3 tries wink.gif
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It is funny when people say "if people are not on this forum, people have a good monitor" you cannot say that, more people might have problems that do not use this forum. So stop making that comment. We do not know, however if we take this forum as an example, lots of people have at least one problem with the monitor.

Is it a prerequisite of the monitor, to only use a forum if you have a problem.
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Do not make me say what I did not say, nobody says all X34 are affected by this specific issue but one thing is certain, not all of them are perfect.

Show us all another lineup of monitors from any company where every unit is perfect?

Doesn't exist. In your case you clearly had a string of bad units witnessed between yourself and your friend. That sucks, but is a miniscule amount of monitors to base any judgements on whether its a "widespread" problem or not.

And that's all that I'm saying.. tone down the conjecture because you don't know any better than anyone else how many of these units are functioning optimally or not.
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Ok, I really do have to make progress in english.
But I think the discord is semantic based.

When I said that not all of them are perfect, I meant "scanlines free". And yes seeking perfection is hopeless, this is just a truism.

That being said, I-me-myself-imho, don't intend to have the final say, we are on a forum which is just a mass of subjectivites crossing themlseves into each other.

I didn't state anything certain about the good/lemon panel ratio, but that in my case I do not feel confident enough to enter a long and tedious process of exchanges until I get a good panel. You tell me that's BS because there are probably thousand and thousand users that are maybe (or not) happy with their display but understand that this feeling is based on what I see here and elsewhere, this all information I have to draw a trend and make a decision.

End of the discussion for me. wink.gif
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ncix removed predator x34 from the website? can't find it anymore
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Show us all another lineup of monitors from any company where every unit is perfect?

Doesn't exist. In your case you clearly had a string of bad units witnessed between yourself and your friend. That sucks, but is a miniscule amount of monitors to base any judgements on whether its a "widespread" problem or not.

And that's all that I'm saying.. tone down the conjecture because you don't know any better than anyone else how many of these units are functioning optimally or not.

Yup. Everyone has a degree of confirmation bias based on their experience, and rightfully so.

The thing about the X34 is that there is so much hype around it, literally MORE than any other monitor i've seen here in recent memory...this thread alone was ridiculous before the thing was even released.

And what happened? Stock was so ridiculously limited that we've seen maybe what...a few hundred in the wild by now? Over the last ~4 weeks of availability? So of course when people start being vocal about the monitor, it's going to be on forums and Reddit, etc., and it's going to be because they have a reason to be vocal, aka...they have issues with the monitor. Yes, valid issues at that. But for every person that speaks up i'm willing to bet there's at least another one or more that is perfectly happy with their problem-free X34.

I ran the XB270HU Owner's Club here on OCN...and I cannot even begin to tell you the literally tens and tens of complaints I would see there about all of the problems that monitor had over the first 1-2 months....whereas I had ordered 3 in the first week, and all 3 were flawless except a dead pixel on one of them. We even had a running tally and most people were happy with theirs or had no issues...but of course some were convinced that the monitor was defective and that there was no way they could go through 3 or 4 of them and still get unlucky. We had a Google poll and many, many more people voted about the state of their XB270HU but NEVER actually posted about it at all in the Owner's thread, or any other place. And why would they if they were happy? Conversely, it makes perfect sense for someone who has similar issues as someone else to actually speak up about it to get that visibility. But one voice being louder than another doesn't mean anything other than some people are winning the lottery and others talking about it are not.

Guess what? MANY people went through 3+ XB270HUs to get "perfect" ones. When the PG278Q launched? SAME THING. When the LG 34UM95's launched? SAME THING.

Display technologies are a fickle thing, and the surest way to avoid problems is to NOT invest in a new display/monitor tech until it's been out for a couple of months. Otherwise, you are signing up 100% to play the lottery in the hopes of getting a perfect one, before manufacturing catches up and sorts through all of the issues that only arose once people started using them.

The X34 is just getting extra attention due to the sheer scarcity of stock, and the "problems" are being enhanced because of the "recall" that's taking place.

As has has been said before, the "recall" is a no brainer because it stops shipment of new product to retailers and allows Acer to damage control an utterly small amount of product in the wild as opposed to continuing to release them and perpetuating any problems...and it's easier to nip the issue in the bud if they just do a "general recall" as opposed to trying to contain it to certain batches probably because there's so few X34s out right now. And again...this is also only for the WFS LED issue, not even the scan lines issue that some people here have, whereas many of us who have provided pictures obviously do not.

Honestly, for those getting "lemon" monitors and are unhappy with them, i'd advise returning and playing the exchange game until you get an X34 that IS "perfect" (because yes, some of us do have those mythical, magical X34s without issues) or get a refund and wait for manufacturing to mature another month or two...or even wait for the ASUS option. But the banter back and forth i'm seeing between those of us who got "lucky" and those who did not is getting silly when one side so desperately wants to prove to the other side that their experience is so much more than an exception and instead must be "the rule," even for those who have "flawless" monitors. Because really...that's all i'm seeing in this thread, and I just started posting like...yesterday. wink.gif
Edited by jcde7ago - 11/8/15 at 6:49pm
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