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Agreed. They seem to vary from monitor to monitor, all the way down to none I guess.
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Same here. I started my RMA with NewEgg. I feel more than a little sick about it but I don't feel as if I have a choice. The scanlines are just not something I can deal with on a $1,300 screen and without knowing that Acer will fix them I need to get my money back while I still can. mad.gif


I feel your pain, I did the same. Wasn't repackaging it into the box just gut wrenching? Not to be a traitor or anything, but someone made a good point about the 27" 144hz monitors coming out. There might be a level of buyers remorse for current UW owners once a 144hz DP 1.3 version comes out. Whereas current 27" are as good as it gets until OLEDS come out. Point is, you'll see a 34" 144hz long before you see a reasonable OLED.

That's the debate I'm having now, buy an awesome 27" now then update to UW once it hits 144hz and is more universally supported. Or say screw it and enjoy the awesomeness that is UW today and not update when a 144hz version comes out.

I will now accept the traitorous tomatoes I deserve thumb.gif
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I feel your pain, I did the same. Wasn't repackaging it into the box just gut wrenching? Not to be a traitor or anything, but someone made a good point about the 27" 144hz monitors coming out. There might be a level of buyers remorse for current UW owners once a 144hz DP 1.3 version comes out. Whereas current 27" are as good as it gets until OLEDS come out. Point is, you'll see a 34" 144hz long before you see a reasonable OLED.

That's the debate I'm having now, buy an awesome 27" now then update to UW once it hits 144hz and is more universally supported. Or say screw it and enjoy the awesomeness that is UW today and not update when a 144hz version comes out.

I will now accept the traitorous tomatoes I deserve thumb.gif

I don't see any difference. You buy monitor A and upgrade to the oled + UW + 144Hz. Or you buy monitor B and wait for the same oled + UW +144Hz.

Only trade off now is 144hz vs UW. Roughly speaking, a gpu running a game at 2560x1440 at 144 fps will run the same game at 109fps when driving UW. So, the trade off is equivalent. UW or 144Hz.

"Whereas current 27" are as good as it gets until OLEDS come out." This implies you are prioritizing 144Hz.

For me, I get this monitor now and upgrade to whatever comes in the future along with a new pc with whatever new gpu. You really can't predict what new products will come to market, when they will come (to a certain degree) or worst of all, which of those you will want to get.

Do we really know if the dream monitor of OLED + 144Hz (or 165Hz) + G-sync +UW is happening? What if that has scanlines? And can the current GPU we have drive that?

Best option is always this: make a decision and stick to it. In the PC world, you can only plan two or three years ahead. That's my view.

EDIT: one could also argue that 27" 144hz 2560 owners will have buyer's remorse when 27" 144hz 4K becomes a possibility with DP 1.3. You can begin to see my point.
Edited by Mountainlifter - 11/9/15 at 5:54pm
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I feel your pain, I did the same. Wasn't repackaging it into the box just gut wrenching?

It was, it really was!!! sad-smiley-002.gif

Now I'm thinking of going a different direction completely, not to derail the thread but I might order a Seiki Pro SM40UNP or Philips BDM4065UC this week after doing some more research...

Here's my thought process vs. my current Shimian (2560x1440 @ 60Hz)...

X34 Pros:
21:9
100Hz
G-Sync
Curve (only really a pro because I was hoping it would cancel out some IPS glow)

Seiki Pro SM40UNP or Philips BDM4065UC Pros:
4K
40"
VA Panel (which I generally prefer to IPS for contrast reasons)
Considerably cheaper (like a 980 Ti cheaper)

That's the same number of pros!

Appropriately this was the last screenshot of DayZ I took on my X34...

Edited by drfish - 11/9/15 at 6:05pm
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This thing just arrived today. Should I just....forward the box on to Acer? frown.giffrown.giffrown.gif
post #5325 of 6126
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There might be a level of buyers remorse for current UW owners once a 144hz DP 1.3 version comes out. Whereas current 27" are as good as it gets until OLEDS come out. Point is, you'll see a 34" 144hz long before you see a reasonable OLED.

That's the debate I'm having now, buy an awesome 27" now then update to UW once it hits 144hz and is more universally supported. Or say screw it and enjoy the awesomeness that is UW today and not update when a 144hz version comes out.

It's a valid point, but given the inevitable wait for such an UW panel, buying 16:9 today may simply give someone buyer's remorse for not buying UW lol! Especially if these problems get ironed out and in a few months you have a much better chance of getting a fault-free example. Besides, just look at the problems surrounding the 27" IPS 144hz panel from AUO... it's FAR worse than LG's 21:9 IPS. Between the two, I'd rather take my chances with the X34.

I am convinced the problems we're seeing with the X34 stem from the fact it was never really designed to be pushed this far. It's a 60Hz native panel that's been around a while now, and they have truly milked it for every last drop, pushing it to breaking point... literally in some cases it seems. A natively faster IPS panel needs to be designed from the ground up, with specific purpose for use as a fast variable sync gaming monitor... I'm sure DP 1.3 can provide this, but we'll have to wait a while yet. Of course, that will require investing in a new DP 1.3 compatible GPU also, and you can bet the monitor is going to be north of the X34 price as well, so get saving lol! We're talking at least a year though, likely more. Plus I reckon we'll be seeing faster 4K panels before we see fast UW. Just buy what makes you happy today... if you can get a good one. smile.gif
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post #5326 of 6126
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EDIT: one could also argue that 27" 144hz 2560 owners will have buyer's remorse when 27" 144hz 4K becomes a possibility with DP 1.3. You can begin to see my point.
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It's a valid point, but given the inevitable wait for such an UW panel, buying 16:9 today may simply give someone buyer's remorse for not buying UW lol! Especially if these problems get ironed out and in a few months you have a much better chance of getting a fault-free example. Besides, just look at the problems surrounding the 27" IPS 144hz panel from AUO... it's FAR worse than LG's 21:9 IPS. Between the two, I'd rather take my chances with the X34.

I am convinced the problems we're seeing with the X34 stem from the fact it was never really designed to be pushed this far. It's a 60Hz native panel that's been around a while now, and they have truly milked it for every last drop, pushing it to breaking point... literally in some cases it seems. A natively faster IPS panel needs to be designed from the ground up, with specific purpose for use as a fast variable sync gaming monitor... I'm sure DP 1.3 can provide this, but we'll have to wait a while yet. Of course, that will require investing in a new DP 1.3 compatible GPU also, and you can bet the monitor is going to be north of the X34 price as well, so get saving lol! We're talking at least a year though, likely more. Plus I reckon we'll be seeing faster 4K panels before we see fast UW. Just buy what makes you happy today... if you can get a good one. smile.gif


Yup good points. I won't be making any decisions again until these monitors have had thier "beta" tests done wink.gif
Edited by DNAJAY - 11/9/15 at 9:12pm
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Got mine yesterday and it's going back for a refund. Don't feel like doing the endless rma.

My issues:
Coil whine/buzz at 100 Hz with enough white surface area

Dark horizontal stripe at the top of the screen (this is the most annoying)
http://imgur.com/uFw5foO.jpg

Scanlines visible on the left side of the screen when fps <70.
http://imgur.com/34JNEa2.jpg

My screen did not have the wake from sleep issue.

But all in all, not worth double the price of my current Dell U3415W even though 100 Hz is buttery smooth. Will wait for something better.
Edited by maukkae - 11/10/15 at 12:35am
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I don't even own the monitor and I'm gutted for all the people having to send them away frown.gif
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I am convinced the problems we're seeing with the X34 stem from the fact it was never really designed to be pushed this far. It's a 60Hz native panel that's been around a while now, and they have truly milked it for every last drop, pushing it to breaking point... literally in some cases it seems.

The flaw in your theory is that the scanlines don't show up when the panel actually runs at full 100 Hz - at which point the image is just fine. If it were an overclocking issue, you'd expect exactly the contrary behavior.

Let's not jump to any unfounded conclusions here. People were starting to think that the blue banding problem was also related to the overclocking and Acer just fixed it with a software update.
post #5330 of 6126
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The flaw in your theory is that the scanlines don't show up when the panel actually runs at full 100 Hz - at which point the image is just fine. If it were an overclocking issue, you'd expect exactly the contrary behavior.

This isn't completely true. They are more subtle at high fps but they don't go away completely, since I knew what to look for I could see them at 100Hz/100fps no problem but not in all games. It has a lot to do with what you are actually displaying at that point. The scan lines can hide in solid colors (even though they are typically MORE visible that way at low fps) but when they are interupting a texture or movement that's when it's easier to see them at high FPS (I mentioned in a previous post that playing Dawn of Discovery you could see the scan lines over the water at 100fps).

I think it's a very complex issue and while I'm curious to learn more I couldn't wait to find out before returning mine.
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