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Hi guys, I frequent these forums for information and finally decided I wanted to join the party rather than peak in from the windows. I wasn't sure if I should post this here or in the monitors area because it applies to both so I'll post here.
Anyway, I have a question I've been trying to answer and it has to do with this monitor. I'm on the fence between going 2K or 4K and based on what I'm seeing around the web is that 4K isn't really feasible for decent gaming even with SLI GTX 980s. I'm going to be building a machine soon and am stuck since I can't decide on this. In one case I will build a mini ITX with a single 970 and go 2K and the other would be mATX with SLI 970 and have to wait to get a better monitor until the fall and go 4K but have to run at 1080p until newer hardware comes out that can run 4K but at least I'd have the monitor. I guess the bottom line would is, is 4K worth it or should I just go 2K for the next 2-4 years and then upgrade when there are single graphics cards that can actually run 4K decently?
Basically, I've been looking at the ASUS PB287Q (4K) and the ASUS PB278Q (2K). The difference is only around $100 and if I go 4K I'd have to run games at 1080p for a while until new cards come out but I'd be ok with that.
I'm just wondering if 4K is really worth it at <30" monitor size. Which is the best way to go here?
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4k is worth it over 1440p yes. 4k not being feasible with SLI 980 is straight up false. You are probably looking at benchmarks with high amounts of AA which is basically just throwing performance out the window at 4k. My 295x2 handles everything at 4k very high/ultra with 0x AA at 60 FPS and 980 SLI is about 5-10% better.

I would strongly advise not buying that Asus panel though. It's TN junk. If you are going to go 4k get a good IPS panel (they can be had for $500-$700 now).
 
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Personally I think 1440p/120-144hz makes more sense for gaming than 4k. Take a look at the CES monitors that Asus/Acer are coming out with.
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At the moment, better game oriented 1440p panels are available. A single 970 would pair well with a 1440p screen at 60hz. Some of those 1440p screens at 120hz+ are harder to run than 4k at 30 or even 60hz. It depends on the games you play too, and of your're not OCD on running everything at max. You can always turn settings down and make the right tweaks vs just setting everything to ultra.

There are also those extra wide 21:9 1440p screens, which are really nice.
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I appreciate the feedback guys.
I see. I was looking at these: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/67652-nvidia-gtx-970-sli-performance-review-9.html

I've seen some people mention that AA isn't necessary at 4K but wasn't entirely sure how accurate that was to say. Is this the same principle with 1440p as well? I also noticed that 1440p monitors are more gaming oriented and affordable compared to gaming oriented 4K monitors but I'm not sure which would be a better choice in the long run.
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I appreciate the feedback guys.
I see. I was looking at these: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/67652-nvidia-gtx-970-sli-performance-review-9.html

I've seen some people mention that AA isn't necessary at 4K but wasn't entirely sure how accurate that was to say. Is this the same principle with 1440p as well? I also noticed that 1440p monitors are more gaming oriented and affordable compared to gaming oriented 4K monitors but I'm not sure which would be a better choice in the long run.

2x AA is the sweet spot for 1440p. I don't notice any difference between 4x AA and 0x AA on my 4k panel even with my face basically right up to the screen. Pretty much everything is already without triangles and also without the blur that AA brings to try to solve that issue. It does also depend on the screen size though.
 
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I play a wide variety of games. Recently I've been playing Titanfall and will be playing Assassin's Creed, Hitman, Metro (the newer versions), and various others.
I'd love to go 30" but seeing the price difference between 28" 2K and 32" 4K (I haven't seen any 30" besides the ridiculous Dell monitors) that are under $1400.
I was looking at the ASUS monitors because they're being touted as some of the best monitors in class for gaming. I'd like to keep cost under $600 but even more preferably under $500.
My major concern is that 1440p is just an interim until 4K support becomes more mainstream and then having to upgrade monitor and GPU configuration like 2 years from now.
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I play a wide variety of games. Recently I've been playing Titanfall and will be playing Assassin's Creed, Hitman, Metro (the newer versions), and various others.
I'd love to go 30" but seeing the price difference between 28" 2K and 32" 4K (I haven't seen any 30" besides the ridiculous Dell monitors) that are under $1400.
I was looking at the ASUS monitors because they're being touted as some of the best monitors in class for gaming. I'd like to keep cost under $600 but even more preferably under $500.
My major concern is that 1440p is just an interim until 4K support becomes more mainstream and then having to upgrade monitor and GPU configuration like 2 years from now.

You missed the deal on the 32" Acer for $699 during Black Friday unfortunately. Right now this is probably the go to panel http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=210-ADOF. It's IPS but only 27" though.
 
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I play a wide variety of games. Recently I've been playing Titanfall and will be playing Assassin's Creed, Hitman, Metro (the newer versions), and various others.
I'd love to go 30" but seeing the price difference between 28" 2K and 32" 4K (I haven't seen any 30" besides the ridiculous Dell monitors) that are under $1400.
I was looking at the ASUS monitors because they're being touted as some of the best monitors in class for gaming. I'd like to keep cost under $600 but even more preferably under $500.
My major concern is that 1440p is just an interim until 4K support becomes more mainstream and then having to upgrade monitor and GPU configuration like 2 years from now.

In September I was in similar situation to you wanting to get a bigger higher res monitor, I opted for 4K as at the time the 4K TN AOC panel I have now was cheaper than a 1440p monitor and for me its great, amazing for productivity, I write on one side and have research and music on the other.

However I do not play AAA games, and if I did play more games and 1440p was cheaper I would rather go for that.

Yes you can game at 4K with reasonable GPUs however you're gonna be pushing it unless you have the $$$ to spend when new GPUs come out.
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I found myself shortchanging 1440p until I was able to sit down and spend some time with it.

After using 4k and 1440p, I chose the PB278Q.
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