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I haven't read every post in this thread from the past 24 hours.
That said, I think it's worth considering that most of us reading this thread don't really know what's going on with FCPU management. There've been a bunch of posts alleging some pretty negative stuff about the owner, most of them from apparently new (and anonymous) accounts on this board. There've also been unflattering pictures posted of what are alleged to be the office. But, again, most of us have no idea what the truth is.

For all we know, the owner may be facing a medical crisis of some kind, or some other situation that keeps him from being able to attend to the business.
The critics could have axes to grind that are only partly related to the running of the business.

Until more verifiable facts come out, everybody should just calm down.

I'm glad someone thought to post something here so that people wouldn't just keep spending their money placing orders and wasting their time waiting for packages that won't be sent in a timely fashion (if at all). But it seems to me a bit much to go beyond that, talking contemptuously about people's personal behavior when we can't hear their defense.

As for the comments claiming that nobody will ever buy anything from FCPU again --
Assuming they can maintain their credit lines and relationships with suppliers (critical assumption, obviously), I would suspect that FCPU would be able to keep customers coming back by simply offering significantly better prices than the competition. A lot of potential customers -in fact, probably most- haven't heard anything about what's going on right now. And I'd bet that most of everyone else will be quick to disregard the memory if offered a juicy enough price cut.
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Originally Posted by quipers View Post

I haven't read every post in this thread from the past 24 hours.
That said, I think it's worth considering that most of us reading this thread don't really know what's going on with FCPU management. There've been a bunch of posts alleging some pretty negative stuff about the owner, most of them from apparently new (and anonymous) accounts on this board. There've also been unflattering pictures posted of what are alleged to be the office. But, again, most of us have no idea what the truth is.

For all we know, the owner may be facing a medical crisis of some kind, or some other situation that keeps him from being able to attend to the business.
The critics could have axes to grind that are only partly related to the running of the business.

Until more verifiable facts come out, everybody should just calm down.

I'm glad someone thought to post something here so that people wouldn't just keep spending their money placing orders and wasting their time waiting for packages that won't be sent in a timely fashion (if at all). But it seems to me a bit much to go beyond that, talking contemptuously about people's personal behavior when we can't hear their defense.

As for the comments claiming that nobody will ever buy anything from FCPU again --
Assuming they can maintain their credit lines and relationships with suppliers (critical assumption, obviously), I would suspect that FCPU would be able to keep customers coming back by simply offering significantly better prices than the competition. A lot of potential customers -in fact, probably most- haven't heard anything about what's going on right now. And I'd bet that most of everyone else will be quick to disregard the memory if offered a juicy enough price cut.

This. I'm not so quick to write them off and if they came back tomorrow I'd have no problem placing an order with them. I've likely given them 2 or 3k worth of business over the past few years. What's another 100$ that I can file a charge-back on if things fall through?
    
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post #1083 of 1582
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Originally Posted by wcmole View Post

I'll tell ya what I meant by that, just to clear things up.
I have spent multiple occasions in the presence of this man, and not only on a "professional" or work basis. My "comment" isn't just a comment. It's the truth. In public, at his house, I've been with him in person. What I was saying was, that IN FACT I know that at this time, alcohol isn't the "main problem here." I'm not going to give details, and I'm sure you can all figure it out if you just connect the dots. Yes, he's battled addiction for years, many know this. Alcohol is one of those battles, and remains as an "appetizer" complementing his hobby at this time. I meant no offense at all to anyone struggling, or has struggled in the past. I myself, come from a family with members who are recovering. What I merely was saying, is that what he is doing is WAY BEYOND all the speculation of this happening just because of the drink. I think it's appalling, and find that what he is doing is making those who are battling with the addiction to alcohol look bad. That is MY opinion, cleared up.......and what I stated, is a fact. Over the last few years I have PERSONALLY seen it with my own eyes, and just wanted to clear that up.
His hobbies and what he chooses to do on his own time are not the point anyway. I just felt that the speculation and constant bantering could use a "fact," which many have asked for. I don't feel entitled to give the info, or feel the need to make him seem like the biggest loser on earth.......just clearing things up.
So, hopefully that will help set that straight. Sorry, really, I do apologize if anyone interpreted it to be an insult.
And as for all the people wondering why the employees never "stepped up and said anything....." Yes, they have.....MULTIPLE TIMES. Years and years these guys have sat him down and plead to him their concern for his well being. They have gotten his family and friends involved. They have helped him take the steps needed to go for treatment. And, as a result, he has gone. Each time, the employees stood by his side, keeping things running, and helping him move forward. Countless times, they have forgiven him, and gave him the opportunity to stand up and make his wrongs right. And each and every time, they have given him the benefit of doubt, pushed back their fears of relapse, and opened their arms and minds to learning to trust him again. They have given him more chances than even his family has.

I really hate that this has turned into a personal issue. I in no way mean to open up and air his dirty laundry. But, it doesn't take a dummy to look too hard and find that the facts stated are true. I feel the need to stand up and support them because they can't really stand on stage in the light right now. As much as they have given, they too, need someone to stand up and catch them when they fall. So, when after I try to reach out and spread the info that many I feel have a right to know.....I too feel the need to be here to squash any and all accusations that may come up, or speculations thought of that are not true. I will not stand up and preach for things I do not know as fact, unless I have seen these situations in person with my own two eyes. And I certainly, WILL NOT speak of situations heard through the grapevine, from those I trust knowledge of, even if it's proven with pictures.

Everything in life comes full circle. I pray that this too shall pass, and that those who are finding judgement for their losses comes very soon. I hope that those who have lost the greatest, are soon blanketed with peace, and that their lives are blessed with all that they deserve for their never-ending commitment and dedication that they have all unselfishly volunteered.

I wonder what their next steps are. I hope they can find somewhere in this industry that they find fit. Maybe that would be helpful to get them moving again.....I don't want to see them become discouraged, and hopefully they can isolate this situation in their minds for the future, so that their skills aren't buried by trust issues.


Ahhh Hahhh hahahaha.

That is the most hilarious thing I've read lately. I bet you and the other brand new first postings members providing all this just hated having to create the account and pour more and more fuel on the sensational fire. All from the safety of anonymity.

Obviously simply saying the business was in trouble and there was no one currently available to fill orders was in no way enough. It was in everybodys interest to have all the mans personal affairs spread over a public forum.

Seriously if you are gonna go this vindictive, petty route then own it mate, be loud and proud about it. The weak protestations of innocence and regret are just lame.
Or you know, maybe be a man about it and use your name while publicly spreading gossip if you feel its that important.
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Originally Posted by Artah View Post

I'd love to start a new business in California with ALL the FCPU staff.

California would be the LAST place I'd start a company these days. Many companies, MAJOR companies, are fleeing that state because of anti-business laws that are in place and being put in place, as well as high taxes and costs of living.

I'm just saying.

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Originally Posted by LittleBrant View Post

Hey there guy, placed my order approximately 7 day's ago. My order was paid through a special credit card that I use exclusively for internet purchases

7 days ago would place it about Friday night or Saturday morning (since you posted you got your order last night), so odds are, yours was one of the last orders taken and filled before "the incident" that closed FCPU down. Nothing shipped on Sunday, and Monday morning was the first business day after "the incident" and nothing got shipped from that point onward.
Edited by 47 Knucklehead - 2/14/15 at 4:02am
post #1085 of 1582
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Originally Posted by DarkIdeals View Post

So has anyone heard anything definitive yet though? i haven't been able to keep up with the thread due to being extremely busy but i've got a Corsair 900D case that was defective that i sent in for return monday without knowing about this and it was signed for by "JJ" at the FCPU warehouse which seemed like a good sign but the phones are still disconnected and everything and i haven't got my store credit yet etc.. so i'm getting annoyed to the point that i'm about to call paypal to get my money back. Even if this not so legit sounding "skeleton crew" statement is true you would think they'd at least have the time to take care of something or at the VERY least put out some kind of statement about when things might be back up and running. Unless they WANT people to continue putting charge backs through putting even more risk on them being shut down due to losing all that cashflow.

If by "official word" you mean anything out of the owner other than a second hand message by Kyle over at HardOCP 4 days ago? No. Nothing.

Since that second hand message from him, the phones have gone from being "not being answered" to disconnected by the telephone company.

People have physically been to the store several times (there are videos of it) and no one has been there in days.

Ex-employees are coming forth and giving their side of the story and photos taken from the security camera have been posted that seems to back up their side of the story.

As of last night, a major supplier, Primochill, has effectively written off FrozenCPU and in response will be opening up their own website again to sell direct.

Performance PCs has commented that they will not raise prices to take advantage of the situation, but as others have said, their inventory is getting depleted so you might want to hurry up until they restock from manufacturers.

I'm sure other manufacturers are concerned with what happened and will soon be making their own announcements or at least pushing product out to companies like Performance PCs and Xoxide and Sidewinder as they are the remaining major distributors in the US.


Now, having said all that, ignoring all the rumors and speculation about the owners personal issues, if it was my money, I would start a dispute with Paypal and get my money back. It will take about 10 days for Paypal to do that (procedures have to be followed with regards to banking regulations), and you can read more about how to start that here:

https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/security/resolve-disputes

Given that Mark has disconnected ALL telephone lines and stopped responding to emails, you may want to put that into the dispute notes and that MAY help speed things up. By now, I'm sure Paypal is well aware of what is going on because they are most likely being flooded with disputes against FrozenCPU.


Best of luck getting your goods or your money back.
post #1086 of 1582
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California would be the LAST place I'd start a company these days. Many companies, MAJOR companies, are fleeing that state because of anti-business laws that are in place and being put in place, as well as high taxes and costs of living.

I'm just saying.
7 days ago would place it about Friday night or Saturday morning (since you posted you got your order last night), so odds are, yours was one of the last orders taken and filled before "the incident" that closed FCPU down. Nothing shipped on Sunday, and Monday morning was the first business day after "the incident" and nothing got shipped from that point onward.

 

Now that you mention it, I live in a city that was once listed as a great place to start a business (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester,_New_Hampshire).

 

New Hampshire is awesome tax-wise. 

 

Is FCPU being reported to various search engines, considering they are taking orders that might never be filled?

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In a kepone factory turning people into bonsai trees...lol. Rep to anybody who gets that.
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Well I never thought I would have to go to the bank and file a fraud claim on FCPU. This guy went in after he closed the store down and still closed out the pending credit card transactions. I am beyond mad. This has actually made me cancel my build that I have coming up. I dunno about some people but 800 is a load of money. The bank telling me that it could take up to 2 months to get it back has put me in a hostile rage.
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Now that you mention it, I live in a city that was once listed as a great place to start a business (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester,_New_Hampshire).

New Hampshire is awesome tax-wise. 

Is FCPU being reported to various search engines, considering they are taking orders that might never be filled?

Forbes rates Utah as the current best place to start one in 2015.

Overall Rank: Utah #1

Business Costs Rank: 5
Labor Supply Rank: 4
Regulatory Environment Rank: 9
Economic Climate Rank: 6
Growth Prospects Rank: 10
Quality of Life Rank: 16

For a shop that caters to "West Coast" with lower shipping rates, that might make the best sense.

Me, personally, if I was to start one, because two of my children live there and I went to college there and lived there a number of years, I'd pick North Carolina. Specifically around the Cary/Research Triangle Park area. Not only do two kids live in Cary, but both Google and AT&T offer Gigabit Fiber internet there. RTP has a ton of companies there, including high tech ones, major universities and medical facilities. Not to mention their politics and their good 2nd Amendment rights, both of which are important to me.

Overall Rank: North Carolina #3

Business Costs Rank: 4
Labor Supply Rank: 7
Regulatory Environment Rank: 2
Economic Climate Rank: 24
Growth Prospects Rank: 9
Quality of Life Rank: 31


New York is is "Meh".

Overall Rank: New York #17

Business Costs Rank: 45
Labor Supply Rank: 30
Regulatory Environment Rank: 20
Economic Climate Rank: 3
Growth Prospects Rank: 17
Quality of Life Rank: 10


California is horrible.

Overall Rank: California #37

Business Costs Rank: 46
Labor Supply Rank: 28
Regulatory Environment Rank: 43
Economic Climate Rank: 26
Growth Prospects Rank: 3
Quality of Life Rank: 25
Edited by 47 Knucklehead - 2/14/15 at 6:41am
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Well I never thought I would have to go to the bank and file a fraud claim on FCPU. This guy went in after he closed the store down and still closed out the pending credit card transactions. I am beyond mad. This has actually made me cancel my build that I have coming up. I dunno about some people but 800 is a load of money. The bank telling me that it could take up to 2 months to get it back has put me in a hostile rage.

Can you please elaborate on this and who you are talking about and what store was closed down? The site is still taking in orders I thought. I am confused so please explain and be more detailed.
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