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REALLY? PPCs is in Python? Dang, I learned that in highschool as an entry level language to get into program design. That's hardly a professional level language to make a website for a legitimate business.

-Z

Idiot owners don't start a small businesses, and turn it into a renowned international reseller with millions of dollars in inventory that last almost two decades. It's been insinuated by someone who alleged to have known Mark personally that he was Bipolar. I know from personal experience how much of a roller-coaster ride in hell that can be, I wouldn't even want to imagine how I would have reacted to addiction while I was getting all that figured out. Everyone has issues, some more than others and some that are completely out of their control (eg. Psychiatric issues), and the guy made some big mistakes but to call him an idiot. ignoring all prior accomplishments, is just arrogant. It's ill advised to cast stones at circumstances you don't completely understand.

-Z

I fully stand by that "idiot" reference as it purposely applies to him and what occurred. It is a FACT the DUI and anyone for that matter, is a total idiot that has even a single drink or sip of alcohol then gets behind the wheel of a vehicle..That's something that is VERY serious and causes many deaths, not to mention torn apart lives by those innocent victims of DUI. It's NOT about them personally, but how it effects others. I have NEVER taken even a single drink of alcohol and gotten behind the wheel. Also, I don't think the laws are nearly strict enough for those "idiots" and feel you should lose your license immediately. Driving is a privilege, NOT a right.

Just because a person is successful in business matters has NOTHING to do with them personally. Many people have money that are total scum and idiots.Just look at a lot of the crazy Hollywood and Rock stars, not to mention others like them.

You will get no sympathy from me for his DUI, which makes him a total idiot regardless of anything else..
post #1422 of 1582
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REALLY? PPCs is in Python? Dang, I learned that in highschool as an entry level language to get into program design. That's hardly a professional level language to make a website for a legitimate business.

-Z

Idiot owners don't start a small businesses, and turn it into a renowned international reseller with millions of dollars in inventory that last almost two decades. It's been insinuated by someone who alleged to have known Mark personally that he was Bipolar. I know from personal experience how much of a roller-coaster ride in hell that can be, I wouldn't even want to imagine how I would have reacted to addiction while I was getting all that figured out. Everyone has issues, some more than others and some that are completely out of their control (eg. Psychiatric issues), and the guy made some big mistakes but to call him an idiot. ignoring all prior accomplishments, is just arrogant. It's ill advised to cast stones at circumstances you don't completely understand.

-Z

I fully stand by that "idiot" reference as it purposely applies to him and what occurred. It is a FACT the DUI and anyone for that matter, is a total idiot that has even a single drink or sip of alcohol then gets behind the wheel of a vehicle..That's something that is VERY serious and causes many deaths, not to mention torn apart lives by those innocent victims of DUI. It's NOT about them personally, but how it effects others. I have NEVER taken even a single drink of alcohol and gotten behind the wheel. Also, I don't think the laws are nearly strict enough for those "idiots" and feel you should lose your license immediately. Driving is a privilege, NOT a right.

Just because a person is successful in business matters has NOTHING to do with them personally. Many people have money that are total scum and idiots.Just look at a lot of the crazy Hollywood and Rock stars, not to mention others like them.

You will get no sympathy from me for his DUI, which makes him a total idiot regardless of anything else..

You keep calling him an idiot, I don't think you know what it means. It's an attack someone's intelligence. I think the term foolish would be more appropriate for his actions. I'm sorry, but unless you've battled alcohol addiction, drug addiction, psychiatric conditions, or any combination of the three it's rather arrogant to place critical judgement on someone who's battled all three. As I said, idiots don't turn a few grands worth of inventory and a hope for a store into a multimillion dollar international world renown reseller. The fact you would compare success in business to success in pop culture as a means to judge relative intelligence is also rather ignorant. One requires hard work and fiscal responsibility while the other sometimes requires a moderate level of talent. The guy made some stupid mistakes. You seem to be placing labels in black and white with no room for grey area. You don't even know the actual circumstances of this, lets call it, descent; non of us do. I agree, anyone who drives while intoxicated is making a very foolish decision, but to place critical judgement on a person as a whole for a stupid mistake is rather presumptuous.

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post #1423 of 1582
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You keep calling him an idiot, I don't think you know what it means. It's an attack someone's intelligence. I think the term foolish would be more appropriate for his actions. I'm sorry, but unless you've battled alcohol addiction, drug addiction, psychiatric conditions, or any combination of the three it's rather arrogant to place critical judgement on someone who's battled all three. As I said, idiots don't turn a few grands worth of inventory and a hope for a store into a multimillion dollar international world renown reseller. The fact you would compare success in business to success in pop culture as a means to judge relative intelligence is also rather ignorant. One requires hard work and fiscal responsibility while the other sometimes requires a moderate level of talent. The guy made some stupid mistakes. You seem to be placing labels in black and white with no room for grey area. You don't even know the actual circumstances of this, lets call it, descent; non of us do. I agree, anyone who drives while intoxicated is making a very foolish decision, but to place critical judgement on a person as a whole for a stupid mistake is rather presumptuous.

-Z

As I said prior, we have vastly different morals the two of us. If it's something beyond your control, such as a legit mental or physical illness, then I certainly understand and would have support for. But when it comes to making poor judgement in your personal life, such as a DUI, then I fully stand by and label you a total idiot.

I wasn't comparing success in business to pop culture, that is something you inferred into the written words and not what was actually said. It was comparing those types of people based upon their personal lives, as many of them are total idiots too.

You define intelligence as financial success and more so in business terms for what it takes to achieve that. But that is totally inaccurate as financial, business or otherwise has zero to do with someone being a total idiot. Money may or may not come from legit sources, people may be backing and/or advising you, etc. Again, I'm not saying that's the case with this particular company or person, only stating there are many stories of so called "successful" people being total idiots. It's who you are as a person that defines you, not the money or achievements.

Also, I know MANY Law Enforcement officers I had class with when taking some elective credits during my college days. You don't want to know what they think of DUI drivers. They are the ones that must notify the family of loved ones they kill. So yes, it is rather black and white to me in more ways than one.

We both see things in different ways, so neither of us will agree on matters when it comes to our morals and beliefs as a whole. I am VERY conservative and when you do it to yourself, then I have zero tolerance. Drug abuse, gambling, etc. are all vices one does of their own free will and has control over. No one had a gun to their head saying you are going to drink, take those drugs, bet that money, etc.

Also, that's the problem with American society as a whole now and especially in European countries. The liberal, secular-progressives will make excuses for their own behavior or blame it on something else. Everyone from every walk of life can make excuses to justify ones actions.

Best wishes to you.
post #1424 of 1582
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You keep calling him an idiot, I don't think you know what it means. It's an attack someone's intelligence. I think the term foolish would be more appropriate for his actions. I'm sorry, but unless you've battled alcohol addiction, drug addiction, psychiatric conditions, or any combination of the three it's rather arrogant to place critical judgement on someone who's battled all three. As I said, idiots don't turn a few grands worth of inventory and a hope for a store into a multimillion dollar international world renown reseller. The fact you would compare success in business to success in pop culture as a means to judge relative intelligence is also rather ignorant. One requires hard work and fiscal responsibility while the other sometimes requires a moderate level of talent. The guy made some stupid mistakes. You seem to be placing labels in black and white with no room for grey area. You don't even know the actual circumstances of this, lets call it, descent; non of us do. I agree, anyone who drives while intoxicated is making a very foolish decision, but to place critical judgement on a person as a whole for a stupid mistake is rather presumptuous.

-Z

As I said prior, we have vastly different morals the two of us. If it's something beyond your control, such as a legit mental or physical illness, then I certainly understand and would have support for. But when it comes to making poor judgement in your personal life, such as a DUI, then I fully stand by and label you a total idiot.

I wasn't comparing success in business to pop culture, that is something you inferred into the written words and not what was actually said. It was comparing those types of people based upon their personal lives, as many of them are total idiots too.

You define intelligence as financial success and more so in business terms for what it takes to achieve that. But that is totally inaccurate as financial, business or otherwise has zero to do with someone being a total idiot. Money may or may not come from legit sources, people may be backing and/or advising you, etc. Again, I'm not saying that's the case with this particular company or person, only stating there are many stories of so called "successful" people being total idiots. It's who you are as a person that defines you, not the money or achievements.

Also, I know MANY Law Enforcement officers I had class with when taking some elective credits during my college days. You don't want to know what they think of DUI drivers. They are the ones that must notify the family of loved ones they kill. So yes, it is rather black and white to me in more ways than one.

We both see things in different ways, so neither of us will agree on matters when it comes to our morals and beliefs as a whole
. I am VERY conservative and when you do it to yourself, then I have zero tolerance. Drug abuse, gambling, etc. are all vices one does of their own free will and has control over. No one had a gun to their head saying you are going to drink, take those drugs, bet that money, etc.

Also, that's the problem with American society as a whole now and especially in European countries. The liberal, secular-progressives will make excuses for their own behavior or blame it on something else. Everyone from every walk of life can make excuses to justify ones actions.

Best wishes to you.

Fair enough, agree to disagree, or possibly disagree to disagree as the case may be. All getting a bit off topic. Lets just hope he turns over control of the business and get's his demons in check when legal shenanigans are settled and served.

-Z
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He he, well over half of my local police force has had at least one DUI conviction themselves. Some have had more than one, including several of their higher-ups. Many of them have had misdemeanor assault and even a few have convictions for theft and other similar charges from before they became police. Our local paper did several stories about it, but there's not really anything that can be done. They always have several vacancies for more than a decade now that they are otherwise unable to fill until they get waivers for applicant's past convictions. Apparently almost no one wants to be a small town cop around here, myself included.
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So anyone heard anything about FCPU today/last night? I'm assuming not being a sunday but figured i'd ask nonetheless. I filed a chargeback with paypal credit on friday, i just couldn't wait any longer. I've got somewhere that has the case i want on a good deal with only one left in stock and i don't have the cash to get it thanks to this ridiculous crap holding $400 from me. I just couldn't justify waiting any more especially since it'll take 10 days for the dispute to finish before they will consider giving me my money back. By then that one case could be long gone and i'd be paying more.

So yeah, any news?
 
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post #1427 of 1582
My guess is that Endpoint closed orders:
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Thank you for writing to us. We just found out about the problems FrozenCPU is having at the end of the week.

We are a service provider to Mark and his business, but the servers and software are his. Because of that we did not feel it was proper for us to intervene in his servers and ecommerce business, and we hoped that this was some short-term problem that Mark would pull out of.

We have been trying everything to get a hold of Mark or any of the possibly remaining employees. We have not had any contact whatsoever, and as time passes it's looking like this is not going to be a temporary problem.

On Friday we shut off all the FrozenCPU payment methods other than credit card payments, because credit cards don't capture funds till shipment, so those can at least be canceled.

Tomorrow we plan to shut off all ordering unless by some chance we hear from Mark.

Bitpay is aware as well.
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So anyone heard anything about FCPU today/last night? I'm assuming not being a sunday but figured i'd ask nonetheless. I filed a chargeback with paypal credit on friday, i just couldn't wait any longer. I've got somewhere that has the case i want on a good deal with only one left in stock and i don't have the cash to get it thanks to this ridiculous crap holding $400 from me. I just couldn't justify waiting any more especially since it'll take 10 days for the dispute to finish before they will consider giving me my money back. By then that one case could be long gone and i'd be paying more.

So yeah, any news?

Presumption insinuates Mark has gotten himself in legal trouble and, as of current, hasn't the capabilities to organize his shop. Proof dictates no one has been working on the current recovery of the shop in some time. Your best bet would be to place the order at the other website, and trust your money will be refunded. If you ordered via credit card be sure to fully explain the situation (i.e. the owner of the shop you ordered from has, presumably, gotten himself into legal trouble and the shop is no longer is business.) If you ordered via paypal do the same, but after x amount of days if F-CPU (mark) has not responded to the dispute it /should/ automatically refund all your money.

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It's about effing time.

This.


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So I just went to the website its up and running so is it safe to place orders or no

You can't place orders. They FINALLY, after 8 days, disabled the shopping cart and put up a message.

You can add items to the cart, and enter your zip code and it will put up the shipping costs, but you can't select which shipping method you want, thus preventing you from checking out.

FINALLY someone with a little responsibility took 10 minutes out of their busy day and night, and did what was suggested a week ago. thumb.gif
Edited by 47 Knucklehead - 2/16/15 at 4:12am
post #1430 of 1582
I was reading earlier pages and i am sick of seeing same comments from same people again and again. For the love of god give the man a break instead of bashing him constantly here.

I hope everything goes well for him. I'd like to see frozencpu back in the business again. I don't care about his choices or his personal life. Its his life he can and will do whatever he wants with it.. Everyone can make mistakes and learn from it. I just wish him good luck.

In the past few years i've spent more than 4k usd on their website and my experiences with them were always great. I always got answers to my emails he was always polite and very helpful. I'm glad i bought new parts for my new rig just a month ago. I know there are other options available aswell but they are not at the same level and this is why i wish to see frozencpu back in the business again.
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