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In Latvia same price. It is almost price difference between R9 280X and R9 290X. I think better GPU gives more benefit in games.

Yeah pretty much. Or a beefy mobo for that extra oc mile, or an SSD etc.
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Unless you already have an AM3 mobo, go Intel.

For gaming, DX12 might make the FX-6300 interesting.

I've always used AMD in my desktop systems, trust me, their SATA, USB, etc. controllers are always junk and behind the curb.
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You know guys,besides North America there is the rest of the world. Here in Finland the shop I regularly buy hardware from sells the cheapest haswell i5 for 224 euros,and it is a non-desirable i5-4460T,1.9GHz, Tray unit. The cheapest boxed is i5-4440, 3,1 GHz is 231 and the cheapest unlocked is the 4670k at 264 euros. The cheapest FX octocore (FX 8320) comes at 149 euros.

Those prices are actually not that bad. Pretty much the same price as america once you get get the exchange rate and VAT of finland included.

e.g 267 * 0.8 roughly to remove the VAT = 213.6 euros for price without VAT.

at current euros to usd 213 euros = 232 usd.
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And half of the topic is still ranting about power consumption. Wow, most of You don't either own one and try to talk smart or don't pay your own bills. rolleyes.gif (And don't bring in "heat" since half of the discussion is power consumption not heat dissipation)

And the cheapest price for an i5 here is around 170 euros which is an IVB part. Haswell, around 220 and you can get an brand new in a box octo FX for 150. (8320 - 8350 goes 170)
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Buying second hand is pretty good value in Europe, just throwing that out there.~

Aside from AMD parts, because the prices are so low you can resell for new purchasing price.. (my AM3+ board also went up some euros in new price over the year I bought it... I guess the platform does offer a lot of value for the price.)
Edited by Tivan - 3/29/15 at 5:05am
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Buying second hand is pretty good value in Europe, just throwing that out there.~

Aside from AMD parts, because the prices are so low you can resell for new purchasing price.. (my AM3+ board also went up some euros in new price over the year I bought it...)

There's one but in that. Not everyone is so willing to buy second hand.

I'm still not getting how people were so fond of buying second hand 2xx series after all the rape they went trough with the mining craze. The same goes for CPU's, you have no clue what it has gone trough other than the persons words for it.
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And half of the topic is still ranting about power consumption. Wow, most of You don't either own one and try to talk smart or don't pay your own bills. rolleyes.gif (And don't bring in "heat" since half of the discussion is power consumption not heat dissipation)

And the cheapest price for an i5 here is around 170 euros which is an IVB part. Haswell, around 220 and you can get an brand new in a box octo FX for 150. (8320 - 8350 goes 170)

Wait, you can actually still find decently priced ivies in Estonia? I may need to keep and eye, might drop by If I see any decent offers (alright,will buy booze as well,I admit biggrin.gif )
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And half of the topic is still ranting about power consumption. Wow, most of You don't either own one and try to talk smart or don't pay your own bills. rolleyes.gif (And don't bring in "heat" since half of the discussion is power consumption not heat dissipation)

And the cheapest price for an i5 here is around 170 euros which is an IVB part. Haswell, around 220 and you can get an brand new in a box octo FX for 150. (8320 - 8350 goes 170)

theres still issues with motherboards, ignoring overclocking as an entirely different topic, in AMD you can't just slap an FX8 on the cheapest AM3+ motherboard you find.
on the other hand, theres really nothing stopping Intel users on picking an i7-4770 and bundling it with an H81 board.

and as such, its best to compare AMD vs Intel when you include 3 related parts, which are HSF, motherboard and CPU.

and on that note, i would've bought AMD when vishera first released, the only thing stopping me is motherboard selection.
no MATX or ITX for FX8, sure theres some MATX boards out there but they're either using old 960 chipset or have a really bad VRM...
now i can't even consider AMD FX8 when i take a look at motherboard features from intel, M.2? more SATAIII slots? native USB3.0?
Edited by epic1337 - 3/29/15 at 5:24am
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Wait, you can actually still find decently priced ivies in Estonia? I may need to keep and eye, might drop by If I see any decent offers (alright,will buy booze as well,I admit biggrin.gif )

http://www.1a.ee/arvutikomponendid/protsessorid/filter/317-14754:319-14856

But that's online only...doubt you'll find them anywhere in store. Booze is always an option for you Finns here tongue.gif Come, come and spend Your money, make our little "hole" richer biggrin.gif

And Epic, you are right and I know that but I got my ASUS board new for €80 so I don't find that as a bad deal.
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theres still issues with motherboards, ignoring overclocking as an entirely different topic, in AMD you can't just slap an FX8 on the cheapest AM3+ motherboard you find.
on the other hand, theres really nothing stopping Intel users on picking an i7-4770 and bundling it with an H81 board.

and as such, its best to compare AMD vs Intel when you include 3 related parts, which are HSF, motherboard and CPU.

and on that note, i would've bought AMD when vishera first released, the only thing stopping me is motherboard selection.
no MATX or ITX for FX8, sure theres some MATX boards out there but they're either using old 960 chipset or have a really bad VRM...
now i can't even consider AMD FX8 when i take a look at motherboard features from intel, M.2? more SATAIII slots? native USB3.0?

There is an abundance of cheap,sturdy AM3+ boards, appropriate for octocores. Like the 970A-D3SP which is more than fine for any 8000 series octocore (it allows a tiny bit of oc too).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128627&cm_re=970A_D3SP-_-13-128-627-_-Product

If you want to overclock you can get good numbers and features with these affordable units too

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130790&cm_re=970_motherboard-_-13-130-790-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128651&cm_re=970A_ud3p-_-13-128-651-_-Product

I don't think m.2 is that big of deal but if it is a must,there is always this AM3+ board that supports it (you can get an octocore at 4.5GHz with it too)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157479&cm_re=990_killer-_-13-157-479-_-Product

Sata, usb etc speeds are just fine in my book with AM3+. The one true deal breaker is the lack of smaller form factors, I am sure AMD lost plenty of sales for not pushing board makers into offering some. Anyway, FX is still viable even for new system builders ,if they are on a budget that is. mostly because intel is now focusing on mobile and desktop CPU performance has pretty much stayed where it was in 2013. Was ready to pull the trigger on a 5820k system, but I think I will just wait it out till I see how the market is gonna shape up after DX12 lands. Next upgrade will either be a 390,390X or the 6GB version of the Titan X, it all depends on price and benchmarks.

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http://www.1a.ee/arvutikomponendid/protsessorid/filter/317-14754:319-14856

But that's online only...doubt you'll find them anywhere in store. Booze is always an option for you Finns here tongue.gif Come, come and spend Your money, make our little "hole" richer biggrin.gif

Mina olen kreeklane biggrin.gif
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