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Perhaps you should actually read my first response to you. I never said I expected mainstream support, I only questioned your use of the word "incredibly". Yeah, when I first bought mine... perhaps you should look at the post dates in this very thread and see how incredibly niche 21:9 was among computer enthusiasts here and pay attention to how this thread has grown.

Steam Hardware Survey? I didn't want to sound rude before but LOL. You realize a great deal of those people will never even be able to afford a 21:9, and most people are still running dual core. It's stupid to suggest that their survey means anything to the actual enthusiast market. Half the people I know on steam are running non-gaming systems on Steam. That's hardly a gauge for interest among gamers and enthusiasts. How many of those people live in countries and can't even afford a serious gaming rig?

Again, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. I never stated that I expected mainstream support, nor did I imply that 21:9 wasn't a niche market.

Troll harder please. tongue.gif

The only troll here is you as you are the one that is arguing for the sake of arguing for whatever foolish reason by brining in extra points that I was not discussing with a completely different poster. Those people who cannot afford a 21:9 are PRECISELY what makes up the gaming population. A gamer is NOT an enthusiast. A gamer is someone who plays video games, whether that is someone running tri-SLI on a 4K OLED display to someone playing LoL on a 15.6 laptop. You think companies give a damn about enthusiasts? They gauge interest based on what the common gamer uses or wants.

Again, anything less than 1% is an incredibly niche market. You can try to argue that till the sun goes down and comes back up again and revolves around the Earth a billions times and you are still completely wrong, but keep trying! rolleyes.gif It always amuses me when enthusiasts try to convince the world that their tiny little well is actually anything more than just a tiny little well.
Edited by OC'ing Noob - 2/8/16 at 10:28am
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All I did was disagree with your use of the word extremely, and all of a sudden you're telling me to read your post and putting words into my mouth. You suggested that I said there should be mainstream support and that I said it wasn't a niche product. Dude, your argument is completely in your head.

The market segment is growing and far more people are considering it over 4k than they were a year ago. And if it's so incredibly niche, why are all the manufacturers coming out with several different models? Derp. Because it's gaining traction fast enough for them to pay attention to the market.

edit: And like I said, the Steam Hardware Survey is meaningless in this context. How many of those people are actually hardware enthusiasts? Maybe 5%? So take that .whatever percent and extrapolate, and there's actually a sizeable community of 21:9'ers in the enthusiast market.

/discussion
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All I did was disagree with your use of the word extremely, and all of a sudden you're telling me to read your post and putting words into my mouth. You suggested that I said there should be mainstream support and that I said it wasn't a niche product.

The market segment is growing and far more people are considering it over 4k than they were a year ago. And if it's so incredibly niche, why are all the manufacturers coming out with several different models? Derp. Because it's gaining traction fast enough for them to pay attention to the market.

/discussion

If you are still thinking that I am saying that, I can only advise that you learn to read at this point.

Monitor companies are making different models because thats how competition works. Do you honestly expect them to just keep coming out with stuff for 1080p? Use some common sense here please. It's like how video card companies keep making high end GPU's because they know ENTHUSIASTS will pay for it. So, is there some market interest, yes of course. Then again, I never denied or argued that and it was one of those points that you were adding in for the sake of arguing (common theme here with you it seems). My discussion with the previous poster has always been interest and support from the gaming industry and not the monitor hardware industry. By and large, the gaming industry could care less whether or not they currently provide support for 21:9. The number of mainstream game that doesn't support 21:9 without editing files proves this.

Again (to address your addition to your post), though this is beating a dead horse when dealing with individuals such as yourself, enthusiast =/= gamer in any reality. 21:9 may or may not have a sizable chunk in the enthusiast community, but that community makes up a small part of even the PC gaming community, much less the actual gaming community which includes consoles. Mainstream gamers (people who will probably never buy 21:9 or 4K) are what drives game development, not enthusiasts who are only a small part of gaming.
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post #224 of 1099
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stuff.

I'm done with incessant arguing. Sorry, didn't even bother reading more than your first sentence. Feel free to wall-o-text yourself to death.

I'm not here to argue with a troll.

Have you ever considered the possibility it's all in your head?


21:9 rules. It's becoming more popular each and every day. People love them.

It will never be mainstream. It may never have mainstream support.
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post #225 of 1099
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As a 21:9 display owner, I definitely want to see that happen, though unless prices start falling fast, that's not going to happen anytime soon.

Bingo. A Dell here in Canada is $1k and doesn't come with any real extra features. I'll still buy one (actually two due to hubby getting one too) but man even for being willing to spend a decent amount of cash on hardware it's a pricey spend.
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21:9 is gaining traction.

Yep, 3440x1440 went from 0.07% to a whopping 0.08%. And UHD sits still at 0.07% for some time now, which is puzzling given that half of the TVs on the shelves of typical electronic store are 4K now. I suspect many 4K owners are running lower res skewing Steam statistics. It would be interesting to see the jump in UHD after Pascal release.
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Yep, 3440x1440 went from 0.07% to a whopping 0.08%. And UHD sits still at 0.07% for some time now, which is puzzling given that half of the TVs on the shelves of typical electronic store are 4K now. I suspect many 4K owners are running lower res skewing Steam statistics. It would be interesting to see the jump in UHD after Pascal release.

UHD doesn't adds anything but more pixels on the screen. It's a 1080p with steroids and limited refresh rates. Not to mention that it requires enthusiast grade hardware to properly run all those pixels.

Meanwhile 21:9 is a much more appealing thing, as it adds an awesome extra field of view, while it doesn't require such beefy hardware and it's easier to implement much higher refresh rates like100hz (and even more with DP1.3). Good luck trying to get anywhere near that with an UHD panel.
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Bingo. A Dell here in Canada is $1k and doesn't come with any real extra features. I'll still buy one (actually two due to hubby getting one too) but man even for being willing to spend a decent amount of cash on hardware it's a pricey spend.

Prices have come dpwn. When I purchased my Dell in December 2014, it was about $1100. I've seen sale prices just under $700. I've seen the LG sell for around $600, when it came out it was around $900.

If you're expecting them to be the same price as a similar width 4k, it's not gonna happen. 21:9 will likely never be a $300 monitor, kinda like how 30" 2560 x 1600 never was either.
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Prices have come dpwn. When I purchased my Dell in December 2014, it was about $1100. I've seen sale prices just under $700. I've seen the LG sell for around $600, when it came out it was around $900.

If you're expecting them to be the same price as a similar width 4k, it's not gonna happen. 21:9 will likely never be a $300 monitor, kinda like how 30" 2560 x 1600 never was either.

Notice I mentioned "Canada", which means Canadian currency tongue.gif And right now, they're averaging between $950-1100 CAD depending on the day you check their website.
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Meanwhile 21:9 is a much more appealing thing, as it adds an awesome extra field of view, while it doesn't require such beefy hardware and it's easier to implement much higher refresh rates like100hz (and even more with DP1.3). Good luck trying to get anywhere near that with an UHD panel.

I hear this argument all the time.

So you want more pixels or you don't? Make up your mind.

Because, if you have too many pixels, then you can just remove those on the sides. Imagine how awesome your frame rate would be if you go from 3440x1440 down to 2560x1440.
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