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Hi I am planing to upgrade from my 12:9 1080p to a 21:9 1440. I do not want to waste more $1000. I do allot of gaming so would like to know what is the best 21:9 that I can buy at the moment ? I already looked at the X34 but it is to expensive. Thanks
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Hi I am planing to upgrade from my 12:9 1080p to a 21:9 1440. I do not want to waste more $1000. I do allot of gaming so would like to know what is the best 21:9 that I can buy at the moment ? I already looked at the X34 but it is to expensive. Thanks

Ill burst your bubble but ALL 1440 ultrawides are expensive cuz the resolution is a massive 3440x1440. You need a high end card to run it too.
    
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Hi I am planing to upgrade from my 12:9 1080p to a 21:9 1440. I do not want to waste more $1000. I do allot of gaming so would like to know what is the best 21:9 that I can buy at the moment ? I already looked at the X34 but it is to expensive. Thanks

I'd start looking here if you don't want to spend $1,300 on the x34.

Dell U3415W 3440x1440 $748.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824260239
     
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Hi I am planing to upgrade from my 12:9 1080p to a 21:9 1440. I do not want to waste more $1000. I do allot of gaming so would like to know what is the best 21:9 that I can buy at the moment ? I already looked at the X34 but it is to expensive. Thanks

Best price/performance/quality ultrawide on the market right now is LG 34UC88. Much better quality than very most of ultrawides, much less backlight bleed and glow, beautiful design and colors, 75 Hz, FreeSync - all of this for $799.
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I'd start looking here if you don't want to spend $1,300 on the x34.

Dell U3415W 3440x1440 $748.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824260239

U3415W has terrible blb problems, its 60 Hz and has no adaptive sync. Losses badly in comparison with 34UC88 that is only a bit more expensive.

Problem is that 34UC88 price vary a lot. Sometimes you can find it for $799 and sometimes not and price goes up to 850-900.
Edited by Krzych04650 - 5/31/16 at 6:35pm
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Ill burst your bubble but ALL 1440 ultrawides are expensive cuz the resolution is a massive 3440x1440. You need a high end card to run it too.

I know they are expensive that is why I am spending $1000 but for me spending anything over than that is not reasonable considering a new and improved version will be out in six months. I also looked around the only one I found that was +1000 was the X34. I also have a Titian X so I think I have the GPU part covered. Thanks

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Best price/performance/quality ultrawide on the market right now is LG 34UC88. Much better quality than very most of ultrawides, much less backlight bleed and glow, beautiful design and colors, 75 Hz, FreeSync - all of this for $799.

I am using an Nvidia card so I believe correct me if I am wrong I can not use freesync ? Would I still be able to use the 75Hz if I can't use freesync ? Thanks
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Out of topic but rather than a new thread..., do gsync freesync work on movie playback?
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I know they are expensive that is why I am spending $1000 but for me spending anything over than that is not reasonable considering a new and improved version will be out in six months. I also looked around the only one I found that was +1000 was the X34. I also have a Titian X so I think I have the GPU part covered. Thanks
I am using an Nvidia card so I believe correct me if I am wrong I can not use freesync ? Would I still be able to use the 75Hz if I can't use freesync ? Thanks
From what I've read most panels need FreeSync enabled to hit the 75hz. A lot of people report flickering when using Nvidia cards when setting their 75hz freesync monitors to 75hz. Hopefully someone with experience can give you a definitive answer.
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I am using an Nvidia card so I believe correct me if I am wrong I can not use freesync ? Would I still be able to use the 75Hz if I can't use freesync ? Thanks

Yes, you're correct. There's no technical reason NVidia can't push an asynchronous frame rate using Freesync techniques vs. their own Gsync standard, AMD left it open for use. But they don't. Not sure if the 75Hz range is really available outside of Freesync, I'd look for a detailed spec of the monitor you're after and see, maybe with overclocking but that's on you then not official specs.

As for the best without Freesync or Gsync (or with either but under $1k) I think the advice you've gotten so far is pretty good. The Dell runs the cheapest at the moment, the LG 97 or 88 versions are also both under $1k street these days. The Acer XR341CK might be also. Of the three the Dell has the largest absolute input lag however and only claims to be a 60Hz panel, so if you really want to take advantage of as much of the '75Hz' as you can, take that into account. I think the 34UC97 also claimed only 60Hz but since it's the exact same panel used in the Acer XR341CK and Acer X34, the panel clearly can be pushed a little.

Tom's Hardware just reviewed the 34UC98 by LG which is the successor to the 97...has twice the curvature (1900mm radius vs. 3800) and adds Freesync which the 97 didn't have. Seems to get pretty good marks for everything except for minimum black level (they bumped it a little perhaps to help with apparent uniformity/ backlight bleed). Releasing at $1099 but will probably be sub-$1k soon.

The 98 by the way has HDMI 2 connections so it should be able to push the 3440x1440 at 60-75Hz refresh rates, while the 97, the Acer XR341CK and the Dell all have older HDMI and can only push 30Hz at native pix density -- you must use display port to hit 60Hz and above. Don't know about the 88...it's somewhat newer than the first gens so might also have bumped up the HDMI spec, do your homework. May not be an issue but thought I'd mention it depending on your card.

Disclaimer - I own an XR341CK (Acer, Freesync, 3800mm radius AH-IPS) and love everything about it except the horrendous menus. There is some BLB but I can live with it. Fortunately I rarely need to use them. If I were buying today I think I'd look very hard at this new LG or at the Acer XR342CK (likely exact same panel, Freesync and 1900mm) which I've seen announced but not yet reviewed. For me however Freesync is a definite want since I have a Fury card now and likely will upgrade to Vega late this year (unless a high end Polaris 10 card, RX490X-ish sort of numbering, really pushes into Fury-equivalent performance, in which case I'd "side-grade" not "upgrade" to reduce power demand and thermals, and think hard about Crossfiring 2 of them for upgrade beyond that).

Also, semi-off-topic. I was suffering some flickering and loud popping sounds / occasional monitor desync using Freesync, 3440x1440 over DP, but only in Elite Dangerous. Other games could just hammer the framerate fine without any of that (e.g. Talos Principle). A few versions of the Crimson drivers later...totally gone. So it was definitely driver related not monitor. Curious if reports of monitors flickering at 75 Hz on Nvidia cards at 3440x1440 might be similar driver issues not really the monitor, but have no actual knowledge to offer.
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Out of topic but rather than a new thread..., do gsync freesync work on movie playback?

I assume you mean playing movies thru some sort of software player on a computer, not using say a direct HDMI connection from a Blu-Ray player, but still my answer would be I don't think so. Freesync is 'enabled' in the driver and at the monitor, but really I think only kicks in with games.

For movies there's no real need - the graphics card isn't really 'computing' a scene - it's just doing hardware-based decoding of a digital stream signal and then interpolating it to screen resolution based on the size of your video player window and your monitor. There's various dejudder settings for content that was originally recorded at 24 frames-per-second or whatever (analog film)...but even that's not very computationally intensive.

Maybe there are drivers that attempt to read ahead on the stream and upsample in time (higher hz rate) vs. the upsampling in pixels like I used to use on my old HTPC, bumping native DVD rez up to true 1080p?? (ffdshow??) I have no idea. Been a long time since I've pursued such things...gave up on it all as a waste of time for little real value. Not sure how that would work anyway. Motion blur in a given frame is captured as spatial smearing across the still image - have to attempt to undo that before inserting an additional frame for the smoother motion, or else you just have more frames of blur.

For something like a BluRay player the 'monitor' only sees it's being given a 1080p x 60Hz signal and does its own interpolation up to screen size, however it does that. So for sure Freesync isn't enabled in that case.
Edited by rtrski - 6/1/16 at 11:36am
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Does anyone know of a bluray player software that actually plays bluray in full screen? I have PowerDVD and when full screened, it just has the video in 1080p in the middle. Quite annoying actually. frown.gif
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