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Does anyone know of a bluray player software that actually plays bluray in full screen? I have PowerDVD and when full screened, it just has the video in 1080p in the middle. Quite annoying actually. frown.gif
That IS annoying!
Can't you double-click on the player and force it to go full screen??
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That IS annoying!
Can't you double-click on the player and force it to go full screen??

It goes full screen in the sense that app itself goes fullscreen, but the video remains in 1080p in the middle with black borders around it.
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It goes full screen in the sense that app itself goes fullscreen, but the video remains in 1080p in the middle with black borders around it.
Try this method- http://www.overclock.net/t/1563773/21-9-monitor-owners-how-do-you-watch-blu-ray-movies
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Best price/performance/quality ultrawide on the market right now is LG 34UC88. Much better quality than very most of ultrawides, much less backlight bleed and glow, beautiful design and colors, 75 Hz, FreeSync - all of this for $799.
U3415W has terrible blb problems, its 60 Hz and has no adaptive sync. Losses badly in comparison with 34UC88 that is only a bit more expensive.

Problem is that 34UC88 price vary a lot. Sometimes you can find it for $799 and sometimes not and price goes up to 850-900.
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I will say this finding backgrounds for 21:9 is a pita but heres a good link thats got a few gorgeous ones.

http://imgur.com/gallery/HOWu0

All the u34 dells oc to 80hz, it's what I'm running mine at, mine also has very minimum blb too. I also got mine refurbished from Dell for only $619 free shipping.
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I will see if that works. Thanks!
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Thanks for the reply really great info.
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Yes, you're correct. There's no technical reason NVidia can't push an asynchronous frame rate using Freesync techniques vs. their own Gsync standard, AMD left it open for use. But they don't. Not sure if the 75Hz range is really available outside of Freesync, I'd look for a detailed spec of the monitor you're after and see, maybe with overclocking but that's on you then not official specs.

As for the best without Freesync or Gsync (or with either but under $1k) I think the advice you've gotten so far is pretty good. The Dell runs the cheapest at the moment, the LG 97 or 88 versions are also both under $1k street these days. The Acer XR341CK might be also. Of the three the Dell has the largest absolute input lag however and only claims to be a 60Hz panel, so if you really want to take advantage of as much of the '75Hz' as you can, take that into account. I think the 34UC97 also claimed only 60Hz but since it's the exact same panel used in the Acer XR341CK and Acer X34, the panel clearly can be pushed a little.

Tom's Hardware just reviewed the 34UC98 by LG which is the successor to the 97...has twice the curvature (1900mm radius vs. 3800) and adds Freesync which the 97 didn't have. Seems to get pretty good marks for everything except for minimum black level (they bumped it a little perhaps to help with apparent uniformity/ backlight bleed). Releasing at $1099 but will probably be sub-$1k soon.

The 98 by the way has HDMI 2 connections so it should be able to push the 3440x1440 at 60-75Hz refresh rates, while the 97, the Acer XR341CK and the Dell all have older HDMI and can only push 30Hz at native pix density -- you must use display port to hit 60Hz and above. Don't know about the 88...it's somewhat newer than the first gens so might also have bumped up the HDMI spec, do your homework. May not be an issue but thought I'd mention it depending on your card.

Disclaimer - I own an XR341CK (Acer, Freesync, 3800mm radius AH-IPS) and love everything about it except the horrendous menus. There is some BLB but I can live with it. Fortunately I rarely need to use them. If I were buying today I think I'd look very hard at this new LG or at the Acer XR342CK (likely exact same panel, Freesync and 1900mm) which I've seen announced but not yet reviewed. For me however Freesync is a definite want since I have a Fury card now and likely will upgrade to Vega late this year (unless a high end Polaris 10 card, RX490X-ish sort of numbering, really pushes into Fury-equivalent performance, in which case I'd "side-grade" not "upgrade" to reduce power demand and thermals, and think hard about Crossfiring 2 of them for upgrade beyond that).

Also, semi-off-topic. I was suffering some flickering and loud popping sounds / occasional monitor desync using Freesync, 3440x1440 over DP, but only in Elite Dangerous. Other games could just hammer the framerate fine without any of that (e.g. Talos Principle). A few versions of the Crimson drivers later...totally gone. So it was definitely driver related not monitor. Curious if reports of monitors flickering at 75 Hz on Nvidia cards at 3440x1440 might be similar driver issues not really the monitor, but have no actual knowledge to offer.
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Try the brand new lg 34uc88 as well curved with freesync.
    
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Try the brand new lg 34uc88 as well curved with freesync.

Yeah, I kept referring to the "88" in my wall-of-text, being lazy. Hope he got it. ;-)

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It goes full screen in the sense that app itself goes fullscreen, but the video remains in 1080p in the middle with black borders around it.

Since they have to pick some sort of spec to regularize it for consumer boxes, and 16:9 was the HDTV standard, the black bars on 21:9 movies are actually part of the video stream on BD disks (and similar with DVDs before them, just at the original 4:3 and lower total res...remember DVDs offered as either '4:3' or 'widescreen'? The difference was the encoding either chopping the edges and using full vertical or including everything but encoding in the bars top and bottom). Even though we might have a monitor that would display the whole image aspect ratio just fine, it wouldn't be a 1:1 pixel map since the stream is still only 1920 wide (with less than the full 1080 vertical in use). I think the need to software scale that up to 'hide' the black bars is what ended up really killing the few attempts at 21:9 televisions, since they were trying those back in the earlier days of smart TVs and still cheaping out on the processors and onboard memory. Computers have the resources to do this with zero practical effort. I thought the software was up to snuff but I confess I haven't watched a movie on my new beast to try since I switched over to a standing desk same time I built the system with the XR341CK.

Now that everyone is totally spoiled by a smartphone that has a processor better than my first Mac clones had in their pocket, and highly responsive apps, smart TVs are having to step it up with better processing. Now that Netflix and others are starting to offer the occasional 4K or 'superHD' stream I think the ability to upscale the view into the correct aspect ratio screen, if available, would work better, but still probably require a user selection at play for each title. I don't think there's a data tag in the stream header that provides the 'non-black-bar' aspect, I think the stream headers just include the total resolution, color bit depth, frame rate, and such. Granted Netflix or Amazon video could easily catalog what 'actual' aspect each title was at, and in an app programmed to live on a 21:9 TV make the choice. BD players are software boxes and could be updated also...but the HDMI standard might also need updating beyond a certain point, I don't know where that breakpoint is exactly. (I know from monitors that HDMI 2.0 would do it, don't know how far back into the 1.x range would support say 2520x1080ish rez.)

I'd sure love to buy a 21:9 TV even though I took a pass on the prior Phillips and Visio attempts...then again, I'd still wait until my current one started to die, I'm not exactly made of dollah bills....
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Yeah, I kept referring to the "88" in my wall-of-text, being lazy. Hope he got it. ;-)
Since they have to pick some sort of spec to regularize it for consumer boxes, and 16:9 was the HDTV standard, the black bars on 21:9 movies are actually part of the video stream on BD disks (and similar with DVDs before them, just at the original 4:3 and lower total res...remember DVDs offered as either '4:3' or 'widescreen'? The difference was the encoding either chopping the edges and using full vertical or including everything but encoding in the bars top and bottom). Even though we might have a monitor that would display the whole image aspect ratio just fine, it wouldn't be a 1:1 pixel map since the stream is still only 1920 wide (with less than the full 1080 vertical in use). I think the need to software scale that up to 'hide' the black bars is what ended up really killing the few attempts at 21:9 televisions, since they were trying those back in the earlier days of smart TVs and still cheaping out on the processors and onboard memory. Computers have the resources to do this with zero practical effort. I thought the software was up to snuff but I confess I haven't watched a movie on my new beast to try since I switched over to a standing desk same time I built the system with the XR341CK.

Now that everyone is totally spoiled by a smartphone that has a processor better than my first Mac clones had in their pocket, and highly responsive apps, smart TVs are having to step it up with better processing. Now that Netflix and others are starting to offer the occasional 4K or 'superHD' stream I think the ability to upscale the view into the correct aspect ratio screen, if available, would work better, but still probably require a user selection at play for each title. I don't think there's a data tag in the stream header that provides the 'non-black-bar' aspect, I think the stream headers just include the total resolution, color bit depth, frame rate, and such. Granted Netflix or Amazon video could easily catalog what 'actual' aspect each title was at, and in an app programmed to live on a 21:9 TV make the choice. BD players are software boxes and could be updated also...but the HDMI standard might also need updating beyond a certain point, I don't know where that breakpoint is exactly. (I know from monitors that HDMI 2.0 would do it, don't know how far back into the 1.x range would support say 2520x1080ish rez.)

I'd sure love to buy a 21:9 TV even though I took a pass on the prior Phillips and Visio attempts...then again, I'd still wait until my current one started to die, I'm not exactly made of dollah bills....

So what you are saying is I am boned? tongue.gif
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So what you are saying is I am boned? tongue.gif

No, I really suspect there are software players out there that can do what you want. Didn't someone already hit you with a suggestion?

But with a commercial BD 'AV rack' type box, not just a BD drive in a computer - yeah you may be boned. For now

FYI you got me curious so I found another pointer to a fix. Not the same link as you had before, and ....

[EDIT - based on terms of service I don't want to get into trouble here. I by no means advocate circumventing any legal protections. Be advised the simple ability to watch a movie without black bars might mean doing so - yeah, news to me too. that's really messed up. "Copy protection" that restricts you from accessing a stream between legally purchased media and a legally HDCP-comppliant display asset is one thing. Preventing you from making best use of said hardware by modifying the way that display shows up - seems like unintended consequence to me. Also seems like some of my speculation in my prior long post about why TVs failed was wrong - it might not have been any technical upscaling process demand but be a legal barrier actively prevented better acceptance, by demonstrating a good use case for 21:9 in the first place. That's just plain shooting your own foot, AV industry!]

I have heard that the feature you might be looking for is a 'crop' feature not a 'zoom' feature if that helps your search. Good luck.
Edited by rtrski - 6/2/16 at 3:26pm
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