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Originally Posted by Zenith Phantasm View Post

The omly way I can hold this mouse with afingertip grip is by clenching. If I relax my fingers then my hand would not be gripping the mouse in any way or form. I would just be touching air. If no ome realized by now my palm makes zero contact with the mouse The mouse's butt is too small and flat.

So you're not using it as intended. You keep applying excessive force to hand, ergo the cramps. Same will be with any other mouse if you keep the squeeze on. Stop squeezing.
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If I do squeeze the mouse flys out of my hand the instant I move it fast. Its impossible to have a relaxed yet stable grip with this mouse. Also the low LOD forces me to hold it in a specific manner or the sensor would simply stop tracking which is catastrophic for any game.
post #4393 of 7008
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You haven't been to many japanese/chinese restaurants, have you?

I've seen things. No, didn't feel any different.

So you're saying there are Chinese/Japanese restaurants with hexagonal and octagonal chopsticks? ROFL.

I'm a Korean-American, living in Los Angeles, which probably has the biggest Chinese and Japanese towns in America. I've been to plenty of Chinese and Japanese restaurants.

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Just stop, you're making a fool of yourself.. Why are you quoting wrong and directing that to me when that was melan

I have no idea what you're talking about. I was responding to comments you made.
post #4394 of 7008
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Originally Posted by Zenith Phantasm View Post

If I do squeeze the mouse flys out of my hand the instant I move it fast. Its impossible to have a relaxed yet stable grip with this mouse. Also the low LOD forces me to hold it in a specific manner or the sensor would simply stop tracking which is catastrophic for any game.

Well it's obvious that your grip isn't secure. Especially if your hands sweat, mouse will fly on the first high speed swing.

But let's get back to the main topic, which was pain related. Why did you keep using it while being aware that it hurts you? And was it for 6 months, or am I mistaken?
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Mice I've put tons of hours in since opticals came out:
MSIE
MSIE 3.0
mx500
g5
g5v2
mx518
g400
g500
g402
g303
Lachesis
Deathadder
Kone+
Fk
Fk1
Sensei
Rival

g303 is my all time fav. Only complaint is cord.

The only fingertip 'compatible' shell from all the mice you listed is coincidentally on the G303. I'm not surprised you find it the most comfortable. Provided you have 17+ cm hands I can definitely understand why.
As a little side note, a work mate with ~19cm hands tried the mouse yesterday and is thinking about buying it from me. I am thinking of returning it, since for my hands it's not really usable with a fingertip grip.
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Originally Posted by coccosoids View Post

In short this:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Red: ring and little finger contact zone. The sharp edge of the mouse cuts directly through my ring finger intermediate phalange. Many mice do this. I already have a small ring finger deformation from years of extended mouse use, and this does not help.

Green: due to the combined factors of my palm length / finger length that is where my index finger makes contact with mouse button 1 in it's most natural position on this mouse. Now - contrary to what some say, spring loaded buttons etc... the force and feedback of these buttons is not 100% on all button area. The marked zone has a noticeable harder feel, requiring a little more force thus inducing strain more rapidly.

Blue: center of gravity leans forward with this mouse which is dumb... for me at least. If I had longer hands I would maybe find it more reasonable but right now the forwarding leaning center of gravity makes it really easy to overshoot with the cursor.

That's only the start... I haven't even loaded the other pictures. I'm quite upset because I've been looking for a mouse for a long time and it seems that I can't find anything that suits me.

I think this is a good device, but I would personally recommend it for smaller than 18 cm palms.

Hi. This is how I grip it:

Maybe thy it out. On the right side,my pinkie sits on the edge,using it as a support and my ring finger is just sitting infront.
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Well it's obvious that your grip isn't secure. Especially if your hands sweat, mouse will fly on the first high speed swing.

But let's get back to the main topic, which was pain related. Why did you keep using it while being aware that it hurts you? And was it for 6 months, or am I mistaken?
I have had the "shape" (I had G302) for ~11 months and that particular grip for roughly 10 months. I kept using it because they are the only non smoothed mice that have good mouse buttons. And yes I have sweaty hands.
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I have had the "shape" (I had G302) for ~11 months and that particular grip for roughly 10 months. I kept using it because they are the only non smoothed mice that have good mouse buttons. And yes I have sweaty hands.
Isn't comfort more important to you than good aim? You need good hands, nobody gives a flying f.... about your in-game aim.
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Isn't comfort more important to you than good aim? You need good hands, nobody gives a flying f.... about your in-game aim.
Aim>Comfort
Edited by Zenith Phantasm - 10/27/15 at 6:47am
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The last couple pages is about one person who likes to torture himself instead of getting a new device and another person who expects people to be the same and adapt and they might cause some mass RSIs later on if people believe in their ways.

Seriously, I'm fine with my G303, but that's because I don't see any benefits of other shells because it doesn't hurt me after longer periods of time and that's just how my hands work, I happen to have very nimble and flexible hands. And I'm very careful about what's good for me and what not. There's rarely been a mouse that I had problems with, just small ones which are like scroll wheels, clicks, etc. but the shape is a waaaay different story that you just can't "adapt" to if it hurts you, boys.

There might be this or that kind of grip which might be good for the mouse but if you don't like it all in the end, don't use it.
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Aim>Comfort

Without comfort, there'll be no aim at the point when it hurts in no time. AND it's not good for you either.
Edited by Pa12a - 10/27/15 at 7:21am
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