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Originally Posted by trism View Post

I bought the 0.6 mm thick competition non-cut sheet to replace the mouse feet on the Rival 100. It was thinner than the original mouse feet and offered worse glide even while stacked. However, it's not generally very good to add distance between the sensor lens and the mouse pad as deviating from the 2.4 mm sweet spot can have quite a detrimental effect on the sensor performance depending on the surface.

0.6mm is thick. Did you round off the edges and polish the sheet?

Hyperglides are like 0.8mm and rounded off. I think they are very thick purely to allow for better contouring. I doubt those feet are anything special other than being very thick and contoured.
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Originally Posted by Melan View Post

There won't be 303 hyperglides.

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Would you recommend MS-3 skates with a cloth pad? Hayate otsu / raiden to be exact.
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Originally Posted by popups View Post

0.6mm is thick. Did you round off the edges and polish the sheet?

Hyperglides are like 0.8mm and rounded off. I think they are very thick purely to allow for better contouring. I doubt those feet are anything special other than being very thick and contoured.
Just to test, I punched two 0.7 mm diameter rounded pieces on top of the ones I added so those were the only contact points. I didn't polish them though, what do you use to polish them? They naturally have rounded edges since punching with a bit dull tool turns the edge downwards. Maybe the original feet were ~0.8 mm since these don't even come out from the intended slots.

I don't think Hyperglides offer anything special outside of the contouring either. I prefer to have a bit of friction though so maybe I am a bit biased. The G303 glides well with the stock feet on the random Cloud 9 black mouse pad I'm currently testing and I didn't feel any difference after removing the middle feet. I think the used surface matters more.
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I have a set of 0.6mm hotline for deathadder and they're really good.
No idea what feet are like on the rival 100 but if the material is anything like the kana v2 feet well I don't see how hotlines can glide worse.
I'd avoid he whole competition silver crap, I like Hotline because they are slightly more controlled than Tiger.
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I think the used surface matters more.

Absolutely! The Hien surface, for example, is much more demanding in terms of material quality of the feet than a smooth surface like the Qck or the Qpad UC. You can feel many stock feet just drag on it.
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Would you recommend MS-3 skates with a cloth pad? Hayate otsu / raiden to be exact.

Standard logitech feet are 0.6mm thick. MS-3 hyperglides are 0.8mm thick. They are also pretty big so fitting them might not be easy and you already have very low LOD with G303 so adding extra height isn't really good choice.
MX-1 hyperglides are 0.5mm thick and they are small, but there's a problem with mouse base plastic scraping the mousepad because you'll have about 0.15mm difference.
That's why I sanded entire bottom down to have smooth surface and just use round MX-2 hyperglides.

There's also a question of softness of your hayate or raiden. If the pad is xsoft, MS-3 hyperglides will sink in a bit which makes it better choice. With MX-1 you'll just glide on plastic.
Edited by Melan - 1/20/16 at 4:23am
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Standard logitech feet are 0.6mm thick. MS-3 hyperglides are 0.8mm thick. They are also pretty big so fitting them might not be easy and you already have very low LOD with G303 so adding extra height isn't really good choice.
MX-1 hyperglides are 0.5mm thick and they are small, but there's a problem with mouse base plastic scraping the mousepad because you'll have about 0.15mm difference.
That's why I sanded entire bottom down to have smooth surface and just use round MX-2 hyperglides.

There's also a question of softness of your hayate or raiden. If the pad is xsoft, MS-3 hyperglides will sink in a bit which makes it better choice. With MX-1 you'll just glide on plastic.

Thanks for the explanation. I have a raiden xsoft coming in soon so probably what you said about the mouse sinking in the pad will be true. I think i'll give the MS-3 a shot for now. I'm curious about the side feet, I wonder if they actually fit in the cutout or they will lay on top of the ridges. Top and bottom I am sure ill be able to fit one or two MS-3 in. I hate the feel of plastic drag so hopefully the MS-3 will be good enough without messing with LOD too much.

How did you sand the bottom of your g303? Just sandpaper or did you dremel? Im kind of interested in this. Did it make the glide way better after completing the mod?
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I used dremel to cut down borders around mouse feet and center piece. Then just applied sandpaper to the mix and made it all smooth. I could've just used more rough sandpaper instead of dremel though, which I'll probably do if I'll find new G303 shell to work with. It has a lot of excess plastic which you can cut out, so a lot of stuff to explore.

Glide improved since no more plastic in the way, and base was so smooth that you could easily glide without feet (for about an hour then lens gets covered with dust).
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Anywhere I could buy a custom cord for g303?
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Anywhere I could buy a custom cord for g303?

There is a whole thread dedicated to that.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1585956/best-cables-g303
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I just got two 1541's and one has no rattle but the other definitely has the lens rattle. It's subtle but there and I think it's causing some performance issues when I draw lines in Photoshop. The buttons are perfect though, so I might just keep it and fix it... maybe. The first g303 that doesn't rattle is one I bought a couple days earlier than the one that rattles. I tried a second one because I thought the current batch for sale at my local store may be fixed but it appears that's not the case.

(Edit: I had a test pic up but I had the sensitivity different on both mice... I am testing further....)

(edit 2: Upon further testing, I think it could be causing a performance issue but without a robotic device of some sort, I don't think I can give valid scientific tests... It could be just that my hand doesn't feel as steady just "knowing" there is rattling)

(Edit 3: By the way, I really enjoy the g303. I've always been an FPS enthusiast but never hardcore, yet I still appreciate the concept behind this mouse. It definitely feels more nimble than my precious g400s mice. I've been playing Quake 1 Darkplaces again recently and I'm very pleased that I decided to try this mouse out as I've seen now how a good smaller mouse can increase performance in such a fast paced game.)
Edited by jthomp - 1/20/16 at 6:38pm
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