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Originally Posted by Elrick View Post

Suspect you are a youngster here hence you can get use to anything, even if it had cactus spikes protruding from the top and sides yessir.gif .

The same with the G303 series, which fortunately is being erased from history when their new G-Pro is released thumb.gif .

Thanks, but I am 33 and have used plenty of diffrent mice in my life smile.gif
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First time I got the G303 I was vomiting for the feeling of the money I just wasted on buying it. I ended up returning it within a few days. I bought a g100s, ZA13 and liked them both much more. Until I snapped and missed the sensor of the G303 and wanted to give it another go. I bought it from another store, and I hated it just as much the first few days.

Then a week went by and I swapped my mousepad from goliathus speed (which was my favourite with g400) to a Qck Heavy and it got to be the best mouse I've ever had. I don't know what happened, or if I got possessed by some logitech loving demon, but it's by far the mouse that I've had the best performance ingame with, all sort of plays that even surprises me for having done them. I don't know what changed my opinion from hate to love, but I think it's a mixture of getting used to it, luck with actually fitting my grip perfectly, and of course the sensor.

So for anybody doubting the G303 I suggested trying it on another surface, always keep the surface calibration on default, and give the shape a few days to a week to adjust to it. If you're a palmer, stay away. I think this is meant to be for claw/fingertip.

I'm buying a reserve as we speak, in case I wont like the new G Pro... everything about the G pro sounds nice, but I'm a HUGE fan of mice with any sort of thumb grips, because it's the most important spot for me in mice.. and the g pro doesn't have anything, so it's going to be a gamble.

But no matter what, I think the G303 is always going to be a very special unorthodox styled mouse, where it works PERFECTLY for some, and a complete disaster for others.

Also the biggest mistake I see with people owning the G303 is the constant comparing with other mice... If you have a G303 and you constantly use another mouse that is much more comfortable besides it, then you will never adjust to the G303 shape, because your mind is always going to hate it, just because you prefer the other one.. then they start ranting about how bad the shape is. Instead of actually leaving any other mouse away, go ingame, play with it and having as a main mouse for atleast 2 weeks and see how you feel then.

TL;DR: try the g303 on a different surface, more smooth/slow styled where the 3366 sensor gets the freedom and air to track around. With my goliathus it was like my 3366 tracking is so damn fast, and the mousepad is damn fast that everything was just unbalanced. Don't compare the shape side by side with another mouse, leave it as a main mouse for 2 weeks and let it grow on you.
Edited by Aymanb - 8/24/16 at 12:51pm
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If you're a palmer, stay away. I think this is meant to be for claw/fingertip.

That was the original angle for the shape in terms of grip but people saw the sensor update and recommended it for every grip for whatever reason.

Reddit was a poor conductor of that for a long time. Threads asking for a palm grip mouse similar to a Rival 300 usually resulted in the top comment recommending a G303.
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can someone recommend me some mouse feet/skates to buy?
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Hello everyone,
I've recently swapped my g303 with my WMO, and WMO feels much more precise in CS GO and Overwatch..
So i installed the MouseMovementRecorder program to see if there is anything wrong with tracking and it seems there is:

Every like 100lines i have some green+red lines. Anyone else experiencing this behavior?

OS: Windows 10

Today i took my friend's Roccat KPM and i must say i'm really impressed how predictable the sensor felt!
Within 5 minutes i was already playing ESEA and scoring pretty well without even getting used to the shape/sensor.
I tracked targets with ease and performed few very nice flickshot.
Then i ran the mousemovementrecorder and guess what? No matter how i moved it not a single green/red line.
I think I'm done with Logitech and their "perfect" on paper sensor. Putting my G303 on sale tomorrow.
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Aren't the red/green lines in that tool things that happen in Windows to the mouse pointer? Like in that example screenshot, the mouse sent data (0, -2) and (1, -1), and Windows didn't update the mouse pointer at the same time, instead delayed things and first did (0, 0), then (1, -3) which together does add up to the same values. The colors are to show that Windows delayed things for some reason.
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He was already told that nothing is wrong 1 page before. In case if reminder is needed:
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mouse movement recorder is only useful to test that windows acceleration is not enabled. in that image, it's plainly not enabled. the discrepancy is because MMR's timing between raw input and cursor input are different, or you hit the edge of the screen. nothing is wrong.

He also stated that it's all in his head. I guess placebo strikes again.
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He was already told that nothing is wrong 1 page before. In case if reminder is needed:
He also stated that it's all in his head. I guess placebo strikes again.

At least i thought so.
But if that's the case how can you explain why the KPM doesn't show any red/green lines and also feels more consistent?
I've tried literally everything to get used to the mouse and the sensor.. well nothing worked for me.
Of course it can be that my g303 is somehow faulty.. #1513 .. but i seriously doubt it.
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Originally Posted by darkfirebg View Post

At least i thought so.
But if that's the case how can you explain why the KPM doesn't show any red/green lines and also feels more consistent?
I've tried literally everything to get used to the mouse and the sensor.. well nothing worked for me.
Of course it can be that my g303 is somehow faulty.. #1513 .. but i seriously doubt it.

Well either something is wrong with your system that only happens when you have the g303 plugged in or you just aren't paying close enough attention or testing long enough with other mice. That is almost 100% certainly a problem with your system and not the mouse considering it is only looking at the difference between what is received and what windows reports. Are you using them with the same report rate and CPI and are you testing this on the desktop or in a game, also are you making 100% sure to not hit the edge of the screen when testing on desktop? That test is entirely for telling what your system is doing with the mouse movements and since logitech mice use the default windows mouse drivers it shouldn't happen only with logitech mice. Have you tried on other computers? Have you tried with LGS on and off? What all is running on your computer that could be causing a high load and causing your system to bind because that is what is happening here.

Edit: Also LGS entirely shouldn't matter, but you need to have the same things running when testing different mice. LGS puts extremely little load on your system, but I guess if your system is already overloaded somehow it could possibly make a difference just because it is another program running. This is a problem of your system freezing up for a fraction of a second not the mouse doing anything wrong so I'm not really certain how the mouse could possibly cause it unless it is sending a bunch of bad signals somehow.
Edited by chr1spe - 8/30/16 at 2:56pm
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