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post #571 of 650
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Originally Posted by m0uz View Post

Edit: What are Zippy switches like?

Firm but not vicious like certain huano models. Still have a firm feeling when pressed and you can hear it easily.

Like them more than Omrons and have no idea how long they will last but thus far, it works brilliantly for me.

ALSO of note - be fully aware that when you buy 10 switches you will get a couple that shall feel soft or different from the rest. Again it might have to do with lack of 'quality' manufacturing, which is done in China unfortunately.
Edited by Elrick - 6/30/16 at 8:05pm
post #572 of 650
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Originally Posted by m0uz View Post

I don't remember the silver Sica having a braided cable confused.gif I do remember it being really stiff, though. Does the white one have a better cable? Also, is the scroll wheel on yours really stiff to rotate? I remember mine being difficult.

The White Sica has a shiny black cable because I've unearthed it from my storage desk. Sorry for posting that it was Grey because I also had SS Frosted mouse close to it hence my mind is still transfixed towards the grey colour, which I love.

The scroll wheel on the White Sica is movable and not to hard to shift up or down.

The cable (shiny black) though, is far more movable than the original version's was. Nice to know Asus is making different changes with casings and cables because it goes to show they listen to the complaints and will re-adjust their designs slightly.
post #573 of 650
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Originally Posted by Elrick View Post

Firm but not vicious like certain huano models. Still have a firm feeling when pressed and you can hear it easily.

Like them more than Omrons and have no idea how long they will last but thus far, it works brilliantly for me.

ALSO of note - be fully aware that when you buy 10 switches you will get a couple that shall feel soft or different from the rest. Again it might have to do with lack of 'quality' manufacturing, which is done in China unfortunately.
Looks like fake chinese Zippy that I bought too. I'm using them in my Silver Rival 300. They are decent but D2F is definitely better.
Original Zippy switches (for example in logitech mx300) are very similar to D2F-01F. They are light, have small pretravel, nice sound too and more durable than D2F. I'm still using those from mx300 in my Sica at work.
Edited by m1hka - 7/1/16 at 12:08am
post #574 of 650
Is there any place where you can buy zippy switches? Looked a few months back and had trouble finding them.
post #575 of 650
So I went ahead and grabbed my gladius.
Situation before I did anything:

Bloody click test vs ikari optical

I installed the armoury software from the spatha support page, it won't update from the gladius armoury automatically.
After installing 8ms is already selected:

No difference before I save anything:

Then I put it on 32ms, saved, put it back on 8ms, saved.
Again vs ikari optical:

Victory cheers.gif
That's ikari left click vs gladius right click, for some reason the numbers aren't as good for the opposite. It's more like 7-8ms. Maybe more pretravel on the gladius left button? It sure feels that way when using it.
No idea how it compares to the default firmware because I never tested that but it's definitely an improvement if you're on the latest.
post #576 of 650
Asus screwed this up so badly. It's ridiculous.

But +20ms down to +8ms? That's a HUGE difference. Default firmware would be like 1ms and would probably match the Ikari though.

Anyway this means all Dexin mice have this capability built in then.

Oh and did you check to be sure it saved the setting without the software running?

edit i almost forgot @genericcc

Do the method from the first part of the post(button duration) with the Gladius.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1572872/firmware-added-button-delay-testing-attempts-tapping-mouse-buttons-lightly/0_50
Edited by uaokkkkkkkk - 7/1/16 at 12:58pm
post #577 of 650
Yay wired test time with the Sica!

Haven't done this in a while.



So to start off, I used Sica firmware 1.2 and Armoury Driver 2.085!


Which...didn't go too well....



Slider did not work at all and it crashed twice. Moving on.

Next up Sica firmware 1.4!

Original Value = +17ms: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Slider set to +32ms:


lol +32ms is treated as +22ms. Seasoned veterans ho~!

Maybe that might mean +8ms will be lower than +8ms!!?




Nice.


With the slider at +8ms it's treated as +4ms vs the Ikari. The button duration is now set at +5ms.

This also applies to fw1.29 Gladius.


Wow. They actually did something right for once. Holy crap. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Not gonna lie though, it would still be nice if it could be tricked to go even lower.

Edited by uaokkkkkkkk - 7/1/16 at 8:49pm
post #578 of 650
Hm, so the Sica is actually a viable mouse? (within the 3310 range, of course).
post #579 of 650
The one I ordered will arrive in a week or two. I can't really remember that much honestly. I remember the buttons being very unresponsive. I can't remember if it had the dpi bug. I'd test that now, however I'm too lazy to put the lens back in my currently trashed Sica.

In terms of button latency the only 3310 mouse I know(excluding finalmouse/dm mototech garbage) to match this would be the KPM(5ms).
Edited by uaokkkkkkkk - 7/1/16 at 9:16pm
post #580 of 650
Hm, very interesting. I might have to buy one of these now. I'll wait until more info on the new logitech mouse comes out though. I don't have that much money I can spend buying every mouse I find somewhat interesting.
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