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post #1031 of 1313
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Another little bit of progress to report.


After a lot of work, that is one of the reservoir sleeves - in stainless steel - as it currently stands. Cutting out that window section proved to be tough going, a lot of it by hand, and as such the result is not quite as neat as I’d have liked (though better than it looked at one point like it might be). The next steps, if indeed this is the way I decide to go, will be the neatening up and deburring of the cut edges, cleaning up the surface, and final polishing to a brushed finish with a mixture of fine sandpaper or emery cloth and wire wool. And then start again on the second one…

The other alternative is to try again in the aluminium pipe, which has now arrived, in the hope that it will make for an easier material to work with. Here is a quick comparison picture:


On the far end is the silver mirror-card I used for the reservoir lighting test pictures. Next to that is the 70mm OD stainless steel pipe (unpolished) used for the sleeve in the picture above. The third is the 70mm OD aluminium pipe (again unpolished) that I’ve just received, and the leftmost is my old spray-painted plastic drainpipe mock-up.

The mirror card obviously was just for the purposes of testing the concept (mostly whether the effect looked better with a black interior or a silver one). The plastic actually comes up quite well, but you have to handle it extremely carefully as it is very easy to damage the paint. The rigidity is also such that it struggles to withstand the cutting, and it starts to lose its shape when such a large area is removed from the side (the edges of the window tend to bow outwards). The stainless steel works well, and looks like it will polish up very nicely, but it is so much work getting there. It is also quite heavy in comparison to the others, though I’m happy that there is still enough area of foam padding for a decent friction hold (now that there are no mounting brackets in use anymore there is nothing else supporting it). The aluminium pipe may well be a better proposition, we’ll see soon enough. However it would require making another two sleeves, as the colour of the metal is different enough that I couldn’t pair it with the existing steel one without the whole thing looking visibly odd.


As for the matter of Windows 10, I can’t say I’m massively happy about the idea of being under Microsoft surveillance - but as you point out it’s not as if Google’s servers don’t already know far more about me than I do myself, and having DirectX 12 is probably going to override that concern. Nonetheless, cloning the current disk state to a separate backup before I make the upgrade will be a very good precaution to take - plus being boring enough to pay at least some attention as to what gets installed on the machine afterward.
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I might have missed it, have you estimated the total weight when complete?
post #1033 of 1313
I'd go with the aluminum tubing and have it polished. Cut and fit it how you want then take your pieces to a shop that does polishing. I have a local chrome plating shop that does polishing work too. They do a great job and very reasonable priced.

Looks like chrome once the aluminum is polished... if done properly.
post #1034 of 1313
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I might have missed it, have you estimated the total weight when complete?

No I haven’t, and probably should have. At the moment the assembly is just about light enough that it can still be carried, with a bit of effort. However it’s all smooth wooden floors in here, so most of the time it’s being moved simply by sliding it around the room on a piece of cardboard. Nonetheless given how heavy it is now, and how heavy all the remaining stuff is, I’m working on the assumption that once all the system hardware is transplanted, and it has the extra weight of case panels and water, then this beast is definitely going to need a decent set of wheels.

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I'd go with the aluminum tubing and have it polished. Cut and fit it how you want then take your pieces to a shop that does polishing. I have a local chrome plating shop that does polishing work too. They do a great job and very reasonable priced.

Looks like chrome once the aluminum is polished... if done properly.

After a little experimenting it is pretty clear that the aluminium is going to be the better bet. The cutter goes through it effortlessly, no problem at all, and so it should give a much neater result. And a lot sooner. Individually I think the 304 stainless brushes up to a marginally nicer finish, but also to a notably darker, greyer, typically ‘steel’ hue. The slightly brighter, more silvery tone of the 6063 matches in with the silver paint colour much better – to the point where you have to look closely to tell the difference.

Taking the aluminium up to a mirror-finish chrome-like polish would certainly look great, in isolation, and it would look great against all the silver Bispower fittings. It is after all what I originally wanted to do; to have all the metallic parts shiny and highly reflective, the way it looks in the renders. The problem is that when you put real, highly polished metal next to the silver of the pump tops and fans, it becomes immediately obvious that those are spray painted. It’s very good spray paint, but it’s not that good. As such the sleeves will need to be cleaned up to more of a fine brushed-metal finish, in order to make sure the whole thing all blends together the way it needs to.
post #1035 of 1313
As far as polishing aluminum goes.... I use Meguiar's Hot Rims Mag and Aluminum Polish. Works wonders with a microfiber cloth or polishing wheel and a little time. smile.gif
post #1036 of 1313
Introvert has a great suggestion. Never thought to use something like that on bare aluminum. Maybe combine it between microfiber cloth and polishing wheel on a Dremel.
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post #1037 of 1313
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As far as polishing aluminum goes.... I use Meguiar's Hot Rims Mag and Aluminum Polish. Works wonders with a microfiber cloth or polishing wheel and a little time. smile.gif
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Introvert has a great suggestion. Never thought to use something like that on bare aluminum. Maybe combine it between microfiber cloth and polishing wheel on a Dremel.

Thanks, it’s an excellent suggestion. Unfortunately that particular stuff doesn’t seem to be that readily available here. However their NXT ‘all-metal polysh’ I can pick up easily. It seems to give equally good results and be very well regarded, so I might try that.
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Subbed! Late to the party, but what an awesome build so far! thumb.gif
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post #1039 of 1313
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Another small update for you this evening:


The pump-to-bulkhead connections are now in, plus the ends of those that will eventually go up to the graphics cards. As you can probably tell these are, rather regrettably, done in soft tubing; there was just no way that I could do this bit in acrylic. The working room is too restricted, the required bends are all different and would need to be very precise. Given my total inexperience when it comes to pipe bending I’ve no doubt I would have made a complete mess of it.

(I had rather suspected from the beginning that this might be the case. The plan had been that when we got to this point I could still choose either type - but if there was one place that rigid tubing wasn’t going to work, it was always going to be here.)


As such these sections have been done using Primochill’s PrimoFlex tubing instead, and I’ve opted to use it for the subfloor connections too in order to help with access. The rest of the pipework will be acrylic; mostly linear runs which should be easy enough to do. I’m sticking with clear tubing for both, as per the original design. If the PVC subsequently starts to cloud up later down the line, to the point where it spoils the look, then I will just have to accept that and redo it in a solid colour. Probably black.

In other news, I mentioned a little while back about some issues with the Aquaero controller misreading the fan speeds when using the hubs; the indicated RPM value fluctuating up and down randomly even though the rotation itself was constant. Recently I ordered the remaining hub that I needed for the rig, and because I was trying to do ten different things and once and not paying attention I mistakenly got a different model (Phobya, rather than Mod-My-Toys). By happy accident that one seems to work perfectly, no issue at all - so that’s another problem solved. I’m switching out all the other fan hubs in favour of the Phobya type, and will be reallocating the MMT ones for use with some of my supplementary scheming…

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post #1040 of 1313
The Phobya splitters only report the RPM signal from one fan, that's why it works.

The Mod my toys splitter reports RPMs from all fans, that's most likely why you are seeing the RPMs fluctuate. You can cut the RPM circuit on the back side of the splitter, all except one, and they should still work.

Here's a picture someone else posted of the back side.

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