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So glad to see this taking form so well !

You need to win an award ... Not sure what but something haha.

Congratulations not long now
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Subbed! ... Only a year and a half late. tongue.gif
Very beautifully done but I can only wonder what the pc will weigh once it's complete. Also on another note how do you get so many bubbles in the reservoir?
Cheers,
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Subbed! ... Only a year and a half late. tongue.gif
Very beautifully done but I can only wonder what the pc will weigh once it's complete. Also on another note how do you get so many bubbles in the reservoir?
Cheers,

Thanks very much, welcome to my little project! I’ve still no idea what the final weight of this will be once complete, but it’s sort of a moot point now since I’m definitely not going to be able to lift it.

To answer your question about the bubbles, there are rather more than normal in those pictures – because the system has only recently been refilled – but the cooling loop layout is deliberately set up to produce that effect. There is a split-return at the final point on each side of the circuit, producing two vertical jets of water from the top of each reservoir. These strike the surface of the water in the cylinder, dragging small amounts of air down with them and mixing the fluid around. This is what creates the swirl of bubbles; moving down the tube and then back up again in chaotic fashion, though never far enough to risk reaching the very bottom and getting air sucked back into the loop. They catch the light from the fibre optics, contrasting against the black background placed on the inside of the sleeve, producing the effect you see there.

Unfortunately the idea hasn’t quite worked properly. It looks really good like that immediately after each system start up - exactly the intended look - but after a while the bubbles become really fine, all but invisible. Sometimes the effect lasts for a long time (several hours) and sometimes it doesn’t. Sometimes the GPU-side reservoir has coarse bubbles and the CPU-side has fine ones, sometimes it’s the reverse. Invariably one of the reservoirs works better than the other. I’m still trying to work out exactly why...

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So glad to see this taking form so well !

You need to win an award ... Not sure what but something haha.

Congratulations not long now

I think the only accolade I’m likely to get for this is the certificate declaring me clinically insane. Maybe I’ll get awarded my very own straightjacket as a prize! They can monogram the Ironbeast logo on it…

There are a couple of little bits and pieces still to finish off before we’re ready to transplant the hardware. At that point I really do have to blitz the next bit as quickly as I reasonably can, to minimise the computer-less downtime as far as possible. So fingers crossed you can expect to see a big jump soon, from glorified indoor water feature to actual liquid-cooled PC, I hope over an uncharacteristically short space of time. Then it’s on to the case panels…
post #1124 of 1313
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Progress update:

Just a quick summary to keep you appraised (edit: I meant apprised) of the last week’s work.

Firstly the aluminium strip to make the graphics card support bracket has been cut to size and the bend locations have been marked out. There should be time this weekend to stick it in the vice, shape it, and drill all the screw holes. As mentioned previously the motherboard mounting plate has been removed from the rig so that the fixing points can be drilled for that too. I’ve made up a template of the X99-E WS on thin card, drawn out as accurately as possible, in order to verify the positioning is correct before marking it out.

The MB deliberately doesn’t sit symmetrically on the mounting plate because the CPU socket is slightly off-centre on the board. As such the rear edge of the PCB aligns directly with the rear edge of the mounting plate; bringing the centreline of the CPU socket to match the centreline of the mounting plate (and therefore the rig), thus putting the Raystorm waterblock squarely in pride of place at the heart of the build.

(Well, almost. If I’m honest there is actually a slight 2mm rearward discrepancy between the CPU centreline and that of the rig - but that was the closest I could get to being symmetrical and still have the brackets of the graphics cards lap neatly and conveniently over the edge of the mounting plate. Visually nobody will be able to tell the difference, though I’ll always know the subtle imperfection is there…)

The WS has also been shifted slightly lower down the mounting plate than originally intended, to about 8mm from the bottom. This is in order to accommodate the switch to the Thor AIX99, instead of the custom waterblock I originally had planned when I designed this thing (back before Bitspower so generously decided to market exactly what I needed). This is mostly a factor for the VRM block, which (like so much of this build’s pipework) is connected to the bulkhead ports by an assembly of rigid fittings of fixed size - so there is little or no room for error there.

Having looked at it again, I’ve also lost confidence that the normal MB standoffs will hold the weight ok and so have decided to alter the way the motherboard is fixed to the plate. The Trespa isn’t as dimensionally stable as metal, so I can’t drill and tap for a thread that fine. However it is tougher than real timber, and the standoff threads aren’t self-tapping, so nor can I just drill a fractionally smaller pilot hole and screw it in (which is what was done for my original test bench, largely because the MB is horizontal and the standoffs are not under any stress). Oriented vertically, and with the weight of four GPUs and all the waterblocks, I just don’t want to risk it not working. Instead the mounting holes will be drilled right through the plate at 4mm diameter, the same size as the holes in the motherboard, which will be secured in place via bolts from the offside. In lieu of the standoffs some plastic or hard rubber spacer bushes will be used to produce the required gap between the back of the circuit board and the surface of the plate - with the added advantage of being able to choose exactly what I want that spacing to be. I’m also going to try and use countersunk bolts if I can - so that there remains the option to add a cover panel to the back of the mounting plate to conceal the bolt heads, perhaps with the Ironbeast logo on it.

In other news, as I mentioned last time there have been some issues with the visual effect in the reservoirs. The test loop has been running perfectly for over a week now, but the bubbles have been consistently very hit-and-miss. The behaviour is totally different with each system start up; despite there being no changes to the loop, pump settings or the position of the rig. Sometimes it generates lots of bubbles and sometimes there are virtually none, with no predictable pattern. Most often there are very fine ones in one reservoir and noticeably larger ones in the other – but it is seemingly random as to which side does which. My best guess is that the amount and quality of the bubbles generated is to do with the turbulence of the return jets; if the flow is too smooth and laminar it isn’t agitating the surface of the water enough to generate the bigger bubbles. (The pump speeds have not changed, and the fine bubbles swirl as energetically and as far down the tube as the large ones do, so it doesn’t seem to be directly a function of the flow rate).

Anyway, whilst I sort out these final bits of fabrication work - and order up what should (hopefully) be the final batch of parts for this thing - I am going to try to find a free afternoon to do some experiments; just so see if this is indeed the cause, before the loop gets drained down again to install the waterblocks onto the three 980Ti. That I am a little nervous about, largely because it represents the very last thing that’s left available for me to do before the moment when I have to bite the bullet, take the test bench apart completely, and go computerless for a bit.
Edited by OCDesign - 10/5/16 at 11:48pm
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Apprise

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post #1126 of 1313
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Apprise

TCO

You're quite right, well spotted. The post has been edited. Thanks for catching the mistake.

Nice to know that, this build log having crawled along for so long now, anyone still cares enough about it to bother correcting my language!
post #1127 of 1313
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You're quite right, well spotted. The post has been edited. Thanks for catching the mistake.

Nice to know that, this build log having crawled along for so long now, anyone still cares enough about it to bother correcting my language!

I can't let an educated man like yourself get away with that. Keep up the great work. I have been encapsulated since the start my friend. thumb.gif

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TCO isn't alone. There are a lot of people here very much interested in the final product, especially now it seems so close!
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This is still looking like an incredible build.
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