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Try to find an ITX case that fits the NH-D15 smile.gif

If possible I’d prefer to salvage the H80i I’ve got in the current setup, since it’ll be surplus to requirements once I’m ready to move the electronics onto the Phase 3 test frame. It’s less than a year old and a good peace of kit, so I’d like to make use of it if I can. As for an ITX case, I’ve been looking through what’s available to see if anything catches my interest. However I’m feeling more inclined to set it up ad-hoc for now, and then try designing my own bespoke case for it later on.
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If possible I’d prefer to salvage the H80i I’ve got in the current setup, since it’ll be surplus to requirements once I’m ready to move the electronics onto the Phase 3 test frame. It’s less than a year old and a good peace of kit, so I’d like to make use of it if I can. As for an ITX case, I’ve been looking through what’s available to see if anything catches my interest. However I’m feeling more inclined to set it up ad-hoc for now, and then try designing my own bespoke case for it later on.
Reliability = Air cooling smile.gif
The main goal of this system is reliability so, i would suggest getting the NH-D15.
You might want to check the Bitfenix Prodigy and see if the cooler fits inside.
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Reliability = Air cooling smile.gif
The main goal of this system is reliability so, i would suggest getting the NH-D15.
You might want to check the Bitfenix Prodigy and see if the cooler fits inside.

You do have a point there; intrinsically much less to go wrong with air-cooling. That said, the stock closed-loop cooler in my previous machine ran perfectly for more than four years (and under quite heavy use) before it was upgraded to the H80i, which has also proved entirely dependable so far. But you're right, for a secondary system the rock-solid reliability of an air cooled setup would probably be better.

However doing a Noctua NH-D15/Bitfenix Prodigy setup isn’t really suitable for me. It’s a nice case, and certainly small in comparison to the 900D, but it’s still much bigger than I was thinking of for an ancillary rig. I’d be after something which is closer to console-size, on the scale of the little Alienware X51 that my sister has. Therefore if it’s going to run on air I really need to be looking for the best of the low-profile CPU coolers.
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You do have a point there; intrinsically much less to go wrong with air-cooling. That said, the stock closed-loop cooler in my previous machine ran perfectly for more than four years (and under quite heavy use) before it was upgraded to the H80i, which has also proved entirely dependable so far. But you're right, for a secondary system the rock-solid reliability of an air cooled setup would probably be better.

However doing a Noctua NH-D15/Bitfenix Prodigy setup isn’t really suitable for me. It’s a nice case, and certainly small in comparison to the 900D, but it’s still much bigger than I was thinking of for an ancillary rig. I’d be after something which is closer to console-size, on the scale of the little Alienware X51 that my sister has. Therefore if it’s going to run on air I really need to be looking for the best of the low-profile CPU coolers.
While small is probably more convenient but, for someone who might resort to the secondary system as backup and probably use some demanding software (If main system fails), I think you should get a decent cooler that can handle your work loads.

Anyway, Any updates on that car engine you're making? biggrin.gif
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While small is probably more convenient but, for someone who might resort to the secondary system as backup and probably use some demanding software (If main system fails), I think you should get a decent cooler that can handle your work loads.

Anyway, Any updates on that car engine you're making? biggrin.gif

Thanks, I really appreciate the input. I'll have another look round here, see if I can find anywhere where a Prodigy-based rig might be kept. Otherwise it will have to be a smaller case.

As for progress with Ironbeast, I apologise for neglecting to update you all. Been busy. A small change in plans means I'm now about half way through making up a new CAD model of the Phase 3 Test Frame (which is why I still haven’t had a chance to finish the loop design write-up). I've decided to alter both the choice of material and the way it is constructed - I think it's likely to be in use for longer than I originally thought, so needs to be a bit more robust. The frame will now be made from proper high-quality timber and will be engineered much more thoroughly. Certainly not cobbled together from scraps like the Phase 1.

The reason for doing a model for this too is not just to indulge my CAD obsession. It means that rather than working on shaping the pieces myself, I can just send the individual part files to my usual timber suppliers (I don't even have to create the drawings for them) along with my order. They then use the divine power of CAD/CAM to do all the cutting, smoothing, drilling and countersinking for me (as they did for some very nice custom flat-pack shelving I designed). All I have to do is pick up the parts and screw it all together.

This process costs me some time in doing the model, but is much faster overall. The timber takes no longer to arrive with them doing the drill holes and finishing than it does just getting the pieces cut to size - and it’s far more accurate than I could ever be.

A quick WIP picture for you now, hopefully some more to follow tomorrow:

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So, whats the overall progress? Do you have all the fittings you need? Time goes on and we demand pics! tongue.gif
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I'm fascinated that you're using timber. What type will you be using? Anything exotic or traditional oak/maple/etc.?
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I'm fascinated that you're using timber. What type will you be using? Anything exotic or traditional oak/maple/etc.?

I think it will probably be done in kiln-dried ash, smooth planed. I've used it before and its very nice timber.

I know it seems like a hell of a lot of effort to go to for a test rig - but I have to be certain this works and that the layout is absolutely correct before I commission any of the metalwork. The main mounting plate in particular is basically a one shot deal. It's formed from a single piece of sheet steel; cut, drilled, punched and folded into its 3D shape, then powder coated. I can’t alter it once it’s made. If any bit of it is even slightly wrong somehow, then the whole thing has to be scrapped and done again. So I’m taking no risks - a wooden mounting plate mockup is cheaper to remake than a real steel one. This also gives me a chance to do some nice flow and thermal performance tests, in case the design does have to be changed in some way.

If the frame does turn out really nicely, I suppose can always keep it for use in another build sometime in the future.

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So, whats the overall progress? Do you have all the fittings you need? Time goes on and we demand pics! tongue.gif


The overall progress is in short, agonisingly slow. Every little step forward seems to take an eternity.
All the fittings? No. Not even close.

Assuming the final design does conform to the current model, with no further modifications, then I have got just under 30% of the total number required. And the pack of the gold Monsoon Free Centre I have is for soft tubing, so plus another six if I do go for acrylic instead.

(Having made the mistake of working out the total number of fittings I need, despite being wisely told not to think about it, I am now very depressed…)


All of the custom parts are still to do - the motherboard cooling setup (which may or may not need to be redesigned) the radiator backlighting spacers, the facing plates, the new glass front plate, internal fill plates, front internal fan grills, floorplate metalwork, motherboard plate and the main mounting plate. I’m still working on doing that front backlighting spacer I wrote about a while back, but the circle cutouts get so close to the edge it may be that I need to get these made by CAD-CAM too. The fans still aren’t painted, nor are the pump covers. I also don’t yet have the front switches, the sensors, the Poweradjust heat sinks, the Aquaero waterblock or the pumps; nor any of the clear tubing, the Aquabus cables, internal USB cables, extension cables for the I/O and GPUs, or the right angle adaptors for the motherboard.

And of course neither the graphics cards nor their waterblocks are even chosen, let alone acquired...
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Ash is good. Not expensive either. I was hoping for a nice Alder or Hickory thou. mad.gif LoL!
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(Having made the mistake of working out the total number of fittings I need, despite being wisely told not to think about it, I am now very depressed…)

I couldn't help but giggle, no I laughed. Sorry! I get the same way when I think about how badly I want an X99 build.
Edited by jdstock76 - 5/21/15 at 4:57pm
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definitely need some more progress pics!
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The overall progress is in short, agonisingly slow. Every little step forward seems to take an eternity.
All the fittings? No. Not even close.

have you already bought all the hardware for the build? motherboard, cpu, gfx cards etc?
maybe if it's taking a long time, new technology will come out and you will want to change the specs? amd 390x biggrin.gif
i reckon buy gfx cards last if you haven't bought them already, at least then if the build takes a few months, it will still be a fairly up-to-date computer. (my 2cents)
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