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stage 2 biggrin.gif:thumb:

Perhaps I shouldnt have mentioned that part...

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Just make sure you dont get your GPUs too early.

The sensible part of my brain knows you’re right. They’re arguably the single most important and expensive component choice in the whole build, and I have to try and resist the incredible temptation just to buy a full set of Titan Xs immediately because they’re the latest must-have toy. I’m fighting it, but other people have them already and I’m getting jealous...
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Perhaps I shouldnt have mentioned that part...
The sensible part of my brain knows you’re right. They’re arguably the single most important and expensive component choice in the whole build, and I have to try and resist the incredible temptation just to buy a full set of Titan Xs immediately because they’re the latest must-have toy. I’m fighting it, but other people have them already and I’m getting jealous...

Be strong, be patient biggrin.gif
Finish building most of the case first. You really dont want to have 4 titans X when AMD strikes with 300 series.
post #73 of 1313
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Be strong, be patient biggrin.gif
Finish building most of the case first. You really dont want to have 4 titans X when AMD strikes with 300 series.

I agree here you have a long way to go i would wait on the gpu's don't get distracted. There are allot of new stuff coming over the next three months. smile.gif
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Be strong, be patient biggrin.gif
Finish building most of the case first. You really dont want to have 4 titans X when AMD strikes with 300 series.
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I agree here you have a long way to go i would wait on the gpu's don't get distracted. There are allot of new stuff coming over the next three months. smile.gif

I’m trying... I’ll force myself to wait for the 300-series cards to be announced, but then I really do have to make up my mind because the GPU choice holds up everything else.

I could move doing the mock-up of the new motherboard cooler into Phase 2, and probably shift making the new front panel and some of the other minor case modifications forward in the schedule if I need to. However all the major internal case modifications (the new mounting plate especially) are completely bespoke to this layout. Therefore I have to be absolutely certain the cooling loop works and the designs are correct before any of the metalwork gets made - which means building a full testing rig, which means buying GPU waterblocks, which means choosing the GPUs.

I am very torn between the Titan X and the 390X (if its alleged specs are to be believed). The Titan X has the big 12GB memory capacity, plus more of the bugs will be worked out and a larger choice of waterblocks should be available because of the earlier release. It also has a nicer look and a much cooler name (though these are not strictly relevant). I understand that 390X appears to be significantly faster, have a lower power draw, and although it’s only supposed to be 8GB it will have this new high bandwidth memory rather than GDDR5. There is also the quietly nagging thought in the back of my mind about the Pascal architecture cards that will appear a couple of years into the lifetime of this machine.

In short I’ve still got no idea what GPUs I’m going to choose, so all advice is very welcome.
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I’m trying... I’ll force myself to wait for the 300-series cards to be announced, but then I really do have to make up my mind because the GPU choice holds up everything else.

I could move doing the mock-up of the new motherboard cooler into Phase 2, and probably shift making the new front panel and some of the other minor case modifications forward in the schedule if I need to. However all the major internal case modifications (the new mounting plate especially) are completely bespoke to this layout. Therefore I have to be absolutely certain the cooling loop works and the designs are correct before any of the metalwork gets made - which means building a full testing rig, which means buying GPU waterblocks, which means choosing the GPUs.

I am very torn between the Titan X and the 390X (if its alleged specs are to be believed). The Titan X has the big 12GB memory capacity, plus more of the bugs will be worked out and a larger choice of waterblocks should be available because of the earlier release. It also has a nicer look and a much cooler name (though these are not strictly relevant). I understand that 390X appears to be significantly faster, have a lower power draw, and although it’s only supposed to be 8GB it will have this new high bandwidth memory rather than GDDR5. There is also the quietly nagging thought in the back of my mind about the Pascal architecture cards that will appear a couple of years into the lifetime of this machine.

In short I’ve still got no idea what GPUs I’m going to choose, so all advice is very welcome.



Who cares about 12GB normal memory when AMD strikes with 8GB HMB? I cant say Titan X is bad card, but it has its problems (mainly cooling-related). Just imagine your build with FOUR 390X on custom PCBs... Nothing by Nvidia will be able to beat it. And, to clarify things - I am long time Nvidia fanboy.. Or was. I'll switch the camps once 390X is released biggrin.gif
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And..
Who cares about 12GB normal memory when AMD strikes with 8GB HMB? I cant say Titan X is bad card, but it has its problems (mainly cooling-related). Just imagine your build with FOUR 390X on custom PCBs... Nothing by Nvidia will be able to beat it. And, to clarify things - I am long time Nvidia fanboy.. Or was. I'll switch the camps once 390X is released biggrin.gif

I care, but that's mainly because I'm not knowledgeable enough! I don't know how big a performance boost high memory bandwidth gives over high memory capacity, especially for applications like CAD which present data in big blocks rather than a continuous stream. I take it the difference is expected to be profound?
post #77 of 1313
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I care, but that's mainly because I'm not knowledgeable enough! I don't know how big a performance boost high memory bandwidth gives over high memory capacity, especially for applications like CAD which present data in big blocks rather than a continuous stream. I take it the difference is expected to be profound?

I am in the same sort of predicament as you with the Titan X and AMD X390. I am able to continue with my build once i get back with out any of the GPU's at the moment. But I do have two GTX 980's for my build and wished i did not buy them so soon and waited a little longer. So that's why i am passing the advice and agony i have,, so that you don't feel the same. hehe. SO i am going to hold off and wait till all is revealed with both camps. Just like we said before i think if you can hold yourself from buying i would wait a little. As i was so close at purchasing the Titan X's myself and transferring the 980's to my other build.

I am holding and waiting thumb.gif
post #78 of 1313
Also, remember that those cards are flagships (390X/Titan X/980). Nothing way better will be released any soon (save for possible 980 Ti). Also consider that Titans are on reference boards - and I would not want any reference PCBs in such build if I were you biggrin.gif
post #79 of 1313
I'm putting a pair of GALAX 980 HOFs in my build. They have the highest clock out of the box for the 980s. They are good for about 1500 MHz stock on air. I talked to Diamond Cooling and they can do black nickel for the cooling block and back plate both which would let me push them even harder. It might fit your theme.

Just some thoughts. The HOFs aren't quite in the same (performance) boat as Titans, but there could be a definite appearance bonus. I really can't comment on Radeon GPUs as I have never used one (and I'm only on my first build). I personally prefer the power efficiency of the 980s over brute force, but that's a personal choice.
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Oh lord. That's very pretty indeed.
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