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I have my CPU running at 4.7 GHz and my GPU is at 1552 / 8010 MHz ( Samsung memory ) thumb.gif
Yup, just as I suspected. Hey, could you do a favor for me? Let's see how good this GPU benchmark really is. Can you set your GPU clocks to the same as mine? (SInce I can't match yours). Then we'll see how much of a difference the CPU really makes. Keep your CPU as it is.
post #2402 of 7497
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Originally Posted by arrow0309 View Post

Guys, I've installed the new drivers, 358.87 and my memory oc is running weird and wild.
It won't hold the oc clocks no more lowering to the default 1750 but even more, is downclocking to 1500 mad.gif
Tried several times with the both msi ab and nvidia inspector, with benches, games (TW3) and even the gpuz's render test is doing the same, lowering my mem to 1500.
I've only tried once (just to see if it's holding) to clock the memory at 8200 with the new drivers and then I've tested with the FFXIV max @4k during the bench noticed some black rectangle artefacts so I've stopped it.
Now it's acting like this, I have to reboot every time but then, after a while is dropping to the ****ty 1500 mad.gif
Any hints?
The gpu oc is still maintaining its oc's (1531 or 1551)

Did you use DDU? You should ALWAYS use it when changing drivers.
post #2403 of 7497
Yes I did, as always
This is ******* insane, playing at 1531 / 7800 on TW3 for 10-15' and then my memory is going down to 1500 (6000) with the framerate getting down from 55-60 to the 30-35 fps, unbelievable
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Hi,
Not sure where to post this so sorry if it's in the wrong thread.

I am unable to enable the second graphichs card in device manager after flshing the modded bios. I just get the yellow exclamation point.

I have 2x gigabyte gtx 970 g1 gaming graphics cards in sli.
I did a backup of my stock bios with cpuz
I then downloaded the max-unleashed bios and opened it with maxwell bios tweaker.
I then made a copy of my stock rom and opened it also with maxwell tweaker so I had both roms open side by side.
I did this because the max-unleashed is version F3 and my stock rom was version F42. i have samsung ram.
I then copied all the data from the max-unleashed into the stock rom tables and saved it .

Ithen went into device manager and disabled both cards
I then used nvflash to create a list of my graphics cards. It saw both cards numbered as-
<0> gtx970
and
<1> gtx 970

I then proceeded to flash as follows-

nvflash --index=0 -6 rom_name.rom

it went as it says it should in the guides i have read.
I enabled the adapter in the first slot and then rebooted, all seemed to go well.

I then did the same for the second card instead typing into nvflash-

nvflash --index=1 -6 rom_name.rom

I then tried to enable the adapter but instead of enabling I just got the yellow exclamation mark.
I rebooted and tried again but same thing.

I then tried to restore the original bios in both cards but I now have the same problem.

. Both cards are water-cooled so it is very difficult to remove them.

Can someone please help me fix this preferably with the custom bios.

many thanks

So you've flashed the original STOCK BIOS' back and you have the same issue right?

Does it say the device has failed or does it need a driver?

I would try using Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) and have it clean everything up nice then re-install the latest drivers. Select a custom install and select a clean install.

Let us know! thumb.gif
post #2405 of 7497
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Yes I did, as always
This is ******* insane, playing at 1531 / 7800 on TW3 for 10-15' and then my memory is going down to 1500 (6000) with the framerate getting down from 55-60 to the 30-35 fps, unbelievable
Strange! It's not normal behavior, I would say it's something to do with MSI Afterburner if it isn't the driver, but I don't know what. For now you should go back to the last driver without the bug and see if you still have it.
post #2406 of 7497
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Originally Posted by arrow0309 View Post

Yes I did, as always
This is ******* insane, playing at 1531 / 7800 on TW3 for 10-15' and then my memory is going down to 1500 (6000) with the framerate getting down from 55-60 to the 30-35 fps, unbelievable
Strange! It's not normal behavior, I would say it's something to do with MSI Afterburner if it isn't the driver, but I don't know what. For now you should go back to the last driver without the bug and see if you still have it.

I'm getting nervous, really mad.gif
I've rolled back to the 358.70 with three restarts during the two drivers (two ccleaner run and one with the ddu in safe mode on the second restart) and I've played on TW3 @1531/7800 for about 20-25'
Then I've got the same memory downclock to 3000 (msi ab) with the lousy framerate
I've noticed that the gpu loads massively even in idle, after this memory issue thinking.gif



Could be something more windows 10 relating than the nvidia driver?
Don't tell me that I've already screwed my vga
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Originally Posted by arrow0309 View Post

Yes I did, as always
This is ******* insane, playing at 1531 / 7800 on TW3 for 10-15' and then my memory is going down to 1500 (6000) with the framerate getting down from 55-60 to the 30-35 fps, unbelievable
Strange! It's not normal behavior, I would say it's something to do with MSI Afterburner if it isn't the driver, but I don't know what. For now you should go back to the last driver without the bug and see if you still have it.

I'm getting nervous, really mad.gif
I've rolled back to the 358.70 with three restarts during the two drivers (two ccleaner run and one with the ddu in safe mode on the second restart) and I've played on TW3 @1531/7800 for about 20-25'
Then I've got the same memory downclock to 3000 (msi ab) with the lousy framerate
I've noticed that the gpu loads massively even in idle, after this memory issue thinking.gif



Could be something more windows 10 relating than the nvidia driver?
Don't tell me that I've already screwed my vga
OK hang on a second... Set GPU-Z (update first) to 0.1 second monitoring and check log to file. Then run a bench or whatever throttles it and upload the log file for us to look at. I just want to be 100% sure it's not hitting a "micro" perfcap and getting stuck or something.

ALSO! Step 2:
GPU error checking & overclock validation. You need to use OCCT. Nothing else will substitute.
.
Click the main OCCT windows once the bench starts and click nothing else for 5 minutes. Watch your temps and the error count. If you encounter any errors before 80c or two minutes then your clocks really aren't stable. If you encounter a few dozen errors by 5 minutes over 80c that's fine, you're on the edge of stability and will not have errors during anything else unless it loads like OCCT and gets to those temperatures. If you get 1000's of errors at once note how long into the test and at what temperature! This is critical for discovering what the cause of the issue is!

Step 3: Upload your bios, I'd like to take a look. smile.gif
Edited by cookieboyeli - 11/6/15 at 4:56pm
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I'm getting nervous, really mad.gif
I've rolled back to the 358.70 with three restarts during the two drivers (two ccleaner run and one with the ddu in safe mode on the second restart) and I've played on TW3 @1531/7800 for about 20-25'
Then I've got the same memory downclock to 3000 (msi ab) with the lousy framerate
I've noticed that the gpu loads massively even in idle, after this memory issue thinking.gif

Could be something more windows 10 relating than the nvidia driver?
Don't tell me that I've already screwed my vga

This is a software issue. Uninstall all GPU related apps, primarily O/C apps but any monitoring apps as well. There is nothing wrong with your GPU, if you put it in another PC it would be fine. This issue has happened to me any many others. You just need to remove the offending program. Be sure to fully remove any trace/config settings/preferences.

It has happened to me with MSI AB. It has happened to others with Geforce experience. It can be a PIA but you'll find it.

Usually occurs when O/C profiles from previous BIOS are applied to new BIOS.

You might also get some luck using MSCONFIG to disable everything starting up and add things back one at a time.

Good luck!

PS. The apps themselves are fine, usually once you remove the offending app you can even re-install the same one and it will be fine.
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Originally Posted by cookieboyeli View Post

Yup, just as I suspected. Hey, could you do a favor for me? Let's see how good this GPU benchmark really is. Can you set your GPU clocks to the same as mine? (SInce I can't match yours). Then we'll see how much of a difference the CPU really makes. Keep your CPU as it is.

In your post it said you were at 1493 and 3900 ,right ?

With this modded BIOS the lowest I can get the core down to is 1519 MHz.

This is the result with 1519 / 7800 MHz and CPU still at 4.7 GHz


post #2410 of 7497
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Originally Posted by cookieboyeli View Post

OK hang on a second... Set GPU-Z (update first) to 0.1 second monitoring and check log to file. Then run a bench or whatever throttles it and upload the log file for us to look at. I just want to be 100% sure it's not hitting a "micro" perfcap and getting stuck or something.

ALSO! Step 2:
GPU error checking & overclock validation. You need to use OCCT. Nothing else will substitute.
.
Click the main OCCT windows once the bench starts and click nothing else for 5 minutes. Watch your temps and the error count. If you encounter any errors before 80c or two minutes then your clocks really aren't stable. If you encounter a few dozen errors by 5 minutes over 80c that's fine, you're on the edge of stability and will not have errors during anything else unless it loads like OCCT and gets to those temperatures. If you get 1000's of errors at once note how long into the test and at what temperature! This is critical for discovering what the cause of the issue is!

Step 3: Upload your bios, I'd like to take a look. smile.gif

Thanks
Here's the gpuz log, I just did't change the second monitoring, forgot it:

GPU-ZSensorLog.txt 338k .txt file

Playing on TW3 @1531/7500 (so even lower for the memory) for about 15', no perf caps, however you'll see an increment of these three "Memory Used [MB] , GPU Load [%] and Memory Controller Load [%]" at the same time the memory is lowered from 1873 to 1502 (and a lot of stuttering and low framerate inside the game).

Here is the bios saved with the gpuz:

GM204MUMOD.zip 136k .zip file

As for the OCCT (last time used when I had a Radeon 6870 cf long time ago) maybe I'll try to give it a shot later but I'm sure it's something else, software related

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Originally Posted by Laithan View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by arrow0309 View Post

I'm getting nervous, really mad.gif
I've rolled back to the 358.70 with three restarts during the two drivers (two ccleaner run and one with the ddu in safe mode on the second restart) and I've played on TW3 @1531/7800 for about 20-25'
Then I've got the same memory downclock to 3000 (msi ab) with the lousy framerate
I've noticed that the gpu loads massively even in idle, after this memory issue thinking.gif

Could be something more windows 10 relating than the nvidia driver?
Don't tell me that I've already screwed my vga

This is a software issue. Uninstall all GPU related apps, primarily O/C apps but any monitoring apps as well. There is nothing wrong with your GPU, if you put it in another PC it would be fine. This issue has happened to me any many others. You just need to remove the offending program. Be sure to fully remove any trace/config settings/preferences.

It has happened to me with MSI AB. It has happened to others with Geforce experience. It can be a PIA but you'll find it.

Usually occurs when O/C profiles from previous BIOS are applied to new BIOS.

You might also get some luck using MSCONFIG to disable everything starting up and add things back one at a time.

Good luck!

PS. The apps themselves are fine, usually once you remove the offending app you can even re-install the same one and it will be fine.

Thanks
I'm also convinced it has to be some soft. related issue but I just can't figure out what.
Already uninstalled (with the revo uninstaller) the evga precision, msi afterburner and some apple software (left) from a recent evening (trying to connect and transfer some files to an iphone).
I've also deleted the shortcuts of various oc's I've created with the nvidia inspector 1.9.7.3.
One other thing I've noticed (even before I was gonna start playing TW3) trying to oc with the nvidia inspector:
so, after the first oc (1531 default gpu, voltage and the other two sliders maxed and the memory to 7500) I was trying a second one starting from the first one but applying to the new clocks (1551/8000) was not possible as the memory slider was always remaining at its 7500 value

I'm starting slowly to literally get pissed about this windows 10 and almost wanna return to the 8.1
Edited by arrow0309 - 11/7/15 at 1:44am
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