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I Run wicher 3 now and see massive improvement over 4k with power target 139% and core voltage 0.075v with the default boost setting of 1455 mhz in game show me gpu-z with max temp 75 degree with auto fan wich doesn't get over 71 %..
Without hair and foliage set to high (all others to ultra with HBAO) most of the time i hit 45-55 fps on 4k lol so steady and not capped i love it! With my stock bios was all up and down and very bad compared.
Reason why i am capped in gpu-z = none / white space biggrin.gif
Edited by NikolayNeykov - 1/27/16 at 1:56pm
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Originally Posted by DeathAngel74 View Post

I tried 5GHz @ 1.4v, no, same with 4.9 and 4.8 @ 1.3v


Have a look at my (upcoming) new cpu: specool.gif

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9wv5Vg25SKLdEVNYUhtcTJDb28/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9wv5Vg25SKLVWJ1M2d5WHplbkE/view

Still in oc testing in Italy (by a friend of mine), after long hours of prime 95 is going to be tested now with another 9h round of RealBench V2.43.
In a week or two is gonna get to my pc, good as ready, RS stable (coming with the very same motherboard, a Z87 OC Formula and the 32Gb of ram TridentX 2400) tongue.gif
Can't wait that to happen.

In the meanwhile I've got another thrilling opportunity, found at a very special price on the ebay a bran new Koolance kit of the latest (rev.2.0) dual bay D5 res RP-452X2 and two new Koolance (D5) PMP-450 pumps cool.gif
They're going to replace my current RP-452X2 rev 1.3 that I'm running with two alphacool vpp655's (powered by the Lamptron CW611):

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The new parts (and some extra stuff): biggrin.gif
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
- New res:



- New pumps (X2):





- New Koolance flowmeter (FM-18) 5.25 display:



- New EK-FC980 GTX WF3 Backplate:



- New rad grill for my top 280 radiator XT45


Gonna have some fun soon smile.gif
Edited by arrow0309 - 1/27/16 at 1:51pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NikolayNeykov View Post

I have like 71-72 degree C with auto fan on wicher 3 atm, but if i put it in manual it gets 60-69 max so was wondering how much the temp will increase.
Is there any thread to show how to flash the bios step by step so i don't do something wrong, i downloaded the x64 nvflash from the other topic and putted the 2 files in a folder with the modded bios for G1
thanks for the help really, greatly appreciated.
Don't know but maybe worth mentioning my important parts of the pc:

MB: GA-Z170X-Gaming 7
Ram: 2x8 Gb Hyper X
CPU: I7 6700k
PSU 700 Aurum S

Here are custom instructions for you smile.gif

(1) Make sure O/C programs are not set to APPLY SETTING AT STARTUP - Turn that OFF and RESET your overclock back to defaults (reset button in MSI AB).
(2) Make sure all programs that monitor and/or communicate with the GPU are shut down
(3) Download JoeDirt's NVFLASH with certificate bypass.
(4) Make sure that the nvflsh64.sys file is also in the same folder as your .ROM and NVFLASH.exe
(5) Open a COMMAND PROMPT as administrator. Change (CD) into your directory (folder path) where you put NVFLASH and .ROM
(6) type
NVFLASH -6 v4betaf4_dp.ROM

(7) You WILL get a warning of "PCI subsystem ID mismatch", this is EXPECTED and perfectly normal. Answer Y

ONLY If you have more than ONE GPU to flash, you CAN flash them both at the same time (just one at a time) without rebooting.
NVFLASH --list
usually first GPU is 0, second is 1
NVFLASH -i0 -6 nameofrom.ROM
NVFLASH -i1 -6 nameofrom.ROM

(8) After flashing is complete immediately reboot.

You now have a modded G1 with a WF3 cooler instead of a WF3OC. Slap a water block on top and it will be IDENTICAL to a G1 thumb.gif

The perfect solution for someone wanting to water cool a GPU. Just get a EKWB and connect it up smile.gif
http://www.performance-pcs.com/swiftech-mcr140-x-drive-combination-radiator-pump-reservoir.html


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Originally Posted by DeathAngel74 View Post

I ran the chip stock for almost a year. It actually overclocks like a champ without extra voltage. Runs 4.7 @ 1.190v, stock 4.0/4.4 turbo had 1.209v set automatically by the bios. When I can afford a custom loop, I'll shoot for 5GHz again!

drool.gif


Quote:
Originally Posted by Owhora View Post

I bought two cards, G1 and Xtreme because I am curious to see which one is better. HOWEVER, I somehow got the literally golden chips! wackosmiley.gif


G1 - ASIC 81.9% (!!!)
Stock Bio: Stable - 1552/7012 or 1519/8002, power limit: 100%, zero vcore, auto fan, 68°C.
Modded Bio (V4): Stable - 1539/8002, power limit: 100%, zero vcore, auto fan, 67°C.


Xtreme - ASIC 78.8%
Stock bio: Stable - 1580/8022, power limit: 100%, zero vcore, auto fan, around 59°C
Modded bio: Stable - 1595/8011, power limit: 100%, zero vcore, auto fan, around 55°C ---- Almost 1600 MHZ!!!!

It looks like that I will keep Xtreme one and return G1 this Friday. (unless you want this perfect G1, please pm me. biggrin.gif)


Laithan, thank you for those amazing modded bios!

PS: How can I post images here? confused.gif

Thanks for the feedback! smile.gif

You may want to check to see what the max overclocks are with BOTH the power% and voltage sliders MAXXED OUT. Anything less is actually holding voltage and power back which are BOTH responsible for higher overclocks.

Oh for a pic, just look at the top of the editing window there are some small icons. One of them is to insert an image into your post.


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Originally Posted by minsekt View Post

yeah im happy with it, ram CR could be CR1 but i dont feel the need to tweak ram right now, its so time consuming.

but ive got a question for the topic,

im running the waterforce extreme bios on my msi 980TI 6g gamimg right now and can hit 1580 stable with +350 on memory (im testing with final fantasy benchmark 4k) the highest temps ive ever got was 55c (custom loop) i kinda want to get 1600 just for having it but would increasing the bios voltage help? or is there a cap at 1.281/7v? whats even considered "safe" ? i beleive theres a titan x bios with 1.310v or more. would be 1.3v safe? temps arent capping me at all id say.

btw what nvidia driver are you using? i feel like the last one was more stable than the newest one.

thanks in advance


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Did I read that right?? You flashed the Gigabyte Ti extreme BIOS to an MSI 6G card?

You are lucky you didn't brick your GPU!

Just to help clarify:
* REFERENCE GPUs can usually share BIOS' because they are all the same PCB design.
* CUSTOM PCBs should ALWAYS use the BIOS that was designed for that PCB.

One of the problems is that others on the interweb use the word "Reference BIOS" for a "MODIFIED BIOS" and this causes confusion. What they REALLY MEAN is "this BIOS can be used as a REFERENCE to modify YOUR BIOS". You would take YOUR BIOS and open it up side by side with the BIOS you are "copying from (using as a reference)" and configure all the settings to match the MOD BIOS. You would then have YOUR BIOS with the tweaks provided.

Please clarify if that is what you did and if so I can help get the correct BIOS for your card. It obviously works but it wouldn't be technically correct and there is some risk running a BIOS that was intended for someone else's custom PCB design (possibly overheating or sending wrong memory voltages, things like that). It is literally like taking a car's computer from a FORD and installing it in a CHEVROLET.. it may start up and drive if lucky but it wouldn't "be right". wink.gif

Voltage, GM200 (980Ti) on AIR does NOT like high voltage. You would just be increasing temps even more. 1.3v on GM200 is not even needed on H2O and certainly not AIR. I wouldn't "go there", that's asking to kill your GPU/VRMs.


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Originally Posted by 0xzz View Post

why did you not increase power limit and vcore on your modded bios with something like MSI afterburner??
thats how it works rolleyes.gif

^ yessir.gif

Quote:
Originally Posted by djchup View Post

GM200.zip 152k .zip file

Well after months of buying parts I was finally able to power on my new machine last night. My card is a non-G1 980ti (GV-N98TWF3OC-6GD) with an EK full cover block and 76.8 ASIC (which i'm told isn't important). I didn't have time for much tinkering after installing windows last night, but I will after work today. I downloaded the bios from my card this morning. I'm *pretty sure* that I'm using DP bios from the information I've gathered from reading this thread. Could use some guidance in deciding what BIOS I should try using. I'd like to try pushing my card as hard as I can, I should have a good bit of thermal headroom (overkill radiator setup).

EDIT: it looks like since my bios is FA0 I'll have to copy over settings from the BIOS's in the OP to my BIOS? (i havent seen FA0 mentioned anywhere at all so maybe this version is referred to as a different name or it's just not as common as the F1/F3/F4 bios versions I see mentioned here)

bonus grainy cellphone pic of my new rig (i'll take better pics once I clean up the wiring) Grainy Cellphone Pic (Click to show)

Very nice but ya grainy pic wink.gif
You must be psyched!

We are doing this right now for 2 others, you can turn that into a G1 and it will be IDENTICAL to a G1 since you have removed the cooler and are using a water block.

The only real way to GUARANTEE if you need DP or DD BIOS is to extract it and take a look (which I will do for you). If you want to read up about it there is a section in the min-KB of the OP that explains it all (more than you want to know smile.gif).

BIOS FA0 is indeed a new one. Will be interested to see it. YES you are using the DP BIOS with your current monitor configuration.

Doesn't matter though we can just unlocked the sliders in this new FA0 BIOS and copy all the settings over smile.gif

This is the H2O BIOS you will want to copy the settings from. The one that you used is the AIR BIOS.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1544574/gigabyte-gtx-9xx-g1-gaming-h2o-air-bios-tweaking/2580#post_24650930


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Originally Posted by djchup View Post

Nope, and you're right i screwed up the voltages. Redoing it now with the hidden sliders unlocked.

EDIT: finished copying the values over from V4BETAF4 BIOS onto my BIOS; This time with hidden voltage sliders unlocked. Thanks for the tip 0xzz my voltage table was all sorts of messed up. Still hoping for someone to reassure me that this thing is safe to flash onto my card. Attaching both my original BIOS and the one I modified. I triple checked and all values are the same as far as I can tell (apart from the extra hidden voltage slider I had that isnt in the V4BETAF4 Bios, I didn't modify its value)

GM200_original_and_edited_djchup.zip 304k .zip file

I checked, you did it correctly just with the AIR BIOS instead of the H2O one. wink.gif With a water block installed you will want the H2O BIOS biggrin.gif
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Random comment I meant to include above smile.gif
yeah NVIDIA drivers are hit/miss these days frown.gif


Quote:
Originally Posted by djchup View Post

Yeah, the PSU I bought during a sale back in October, before I got the 980ti. At that time I was planning on buying one or two more R9 290's to crossfire with the one I already had so I got a PSU that gave me headroom. At least I shouldn't need a new PSU for a long time.

Surprisingly, it is not enough for (2) 980Ti's in SLI with this MOD BIOS when power peaks are seen. Oh yes, GM200 can be very thirsty! smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif
SLI peak power usage (total system power) measured at the wall (Click to show)

This won't be what you draw all the time of course but pictures are worth a thousand words.
Some other tests in SLI (Click to show)



Quote:
Originally Posted by Plastewolf View Post

Hi there,

I applied your settings via copy/paste to my F60 bios.





there is a problem on fast mouse movements while surfing on the internet. the strang thing is: nothing like that happens in other games / or apps than internet browsers and it doesnt happen on every website. as far as i can tell every browser / http application is affected. i tried microsoft edge, firefox and google chrome.

the mouse curser starts to generate pixel errors. to show my problem i made a small video with my handy camera so you can see what iam talking about. im sorry for the very bad video quality, i tried to keep the video file as small as possible.

is there anyone else having those problems? its only on browsers and it doesnt happen on all websites.

im using windows 10 with the gigabyte g1 970.

Project1.zip 1593k .zip file


You have some kind of software issue, I doubt this is a hardware problem. Are you using the native resolution and refresh rate of the monitor? Did you try new drivers?

You can try DDU or to prove it is only a software issue install the GPU into another PC as a test.



Quote:
Originally Posted by NikolayNeykov View Post

I Run wicher 3 now and see massive improvement over 4k with power target 139% and core voltage 0.075v with the default boost setting of 1455 mhz in game show me gpu-z with max temp 75 degree with auto fan wich doesn't get over 71 %..
Without hair and foliage set to high (all others to ultra with HBAO) most of the time i hit 45-55 fps on 4k lol so steady and not capped i love it! With my stock bios was all up and down and very bad compared.
Reason why i am capped in gpu-z = none / white space biggrin.gif

biggrin.gif

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All is good and i am happy thanks to Laithan, there is just one thing - when i checked for updates on my motherboard it show me i have new bios for update (F5) and when i sow my current bios it was F4 which is the stock bios for that motherboard and i upgraded it to F6 after they released it, so its kinda weird. Any thoughts?
Edited by NikolayNeykov - 1/27/16 at 4:26pm
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Originally Posted by Laithan View Post

Random comment I meant to include above smile.gif
yeah NVIDIA drivers are hit/miss these days frown.gif
Surprisingly, it is not enough for (2) 980Ti's in SLI with this MOD BIOS when power peaks are seen. Oh yes, GM200 can be very thirsty! smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif
SLI peak power usage (total system power) measured at the wall (Click to show)

This won't be what you draw all the time of course but pictures are worth a thousand words.
Some other tests in SLI (Click to show)

i just ran heavensward 4K Max settings with my G1 980Ti 1.274V, 1586 core and 4000 mem overclock and max power draw from the wall i saw was 460 Watts. psu is a bequiet! dark power pro 11 850W
i have a 6700k running at 1.31V 4.5GHz, a pump and 7 fans so i think a lot of the power draw in your tests came from your cpu because even though im not running SLI, i think i would draw a lot less power
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Have a look at my (upcoming) new cpu: specool.gif

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9wv5Vg25SKLdEVNYUhtcTJDb28/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9wv5Vg25SKLVWJ1M2d5WHplbkE/view

Still in oc testing in Italy (by a friend of mine), after long hours of prime 95 is going to be tested now with another 9h round of RealBench V2.43.
In a week or two is gonna get to my pc, good as ready, RS stable (coming with the very same motherboard, a Z87 OC Formula and the 32Gb of ram TridentX 2400) tongue.gif
Can't wait that to happen.

In the meanwhile I've got another thrilling opportunity, found at a very special price on the ebay a bran new Koolance kit of the latest (rev.2.0) dual bay D5 res RP-452X2 and two new Koolance (D5) PMP-450 pumps cool.gif
They're going to replace my current RP-452X2 rev 1.3 that I'm running with two alphacool vpp655's (powered by the Lamptron CW611):

http://s29.postimg.org/mmartudhx/20160124_133024.jpg

The new parts (and some extra stuff): biggrin.gif
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
- New res:



- New pumps (X2):





- New Koolance flowmeter (FM-18) 5.25 display:



- New EK-FC980 GTX WF3 Backplate:



- New rad grill for my top 280 radiator XT45


Gonna have some fun soon smile.gif

4.8Ghz ! Nice! thumb.gif
Looking good! I bet it will be a screamer! smile.gif

Can't wait to see some benchies!

Quote:
Originally Posted by NikolayNeykov View Post

All is good and i am happy thanks to Laithan, there is just one thing - when i checked for updates on my motherboard it show me i have new bios for update (F5) and when i sow my current bios it was F4 which is the stock bios for that motherboard and i upgraded it to F6 after they released it, so its kinda weird. Any thoughts?

Thanks for the feedback smile.gif

What application are you using to check for BIOS updates?


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Originally Posted by 0xzz View Post

i just ran heavensward 4K Max settings with my G1 980Ti 1.274V, 1586 core and 4000 mem overclock and max power draw from the wall i saw was 460 Watts. psu is a bequiet! dark power pro 11 850W
i have a 6700k running at 1.31V 4.5GHz, a pump and 7 fans so i think a lot of the power draw in your tests came from your cpu because even though im not running SLI, i think i would draw a lot less power

Oh there is no doubt, you are right my CPU and overclock is a power hog! You have a much more efficient system, perhaps one of the most smile.gif

If I my quote myself from the OP
Quote:
With increased power comes increased power supply requirements. This BIOS is rated at apprx 450W max. 700W+ quality power supply recommended. 1200W+ quality power supply recommend for 2-way SLI.. May work with others but be aware of the increased power supply requirements.

You actually exceeded what I estimated the max GPU power was.

I also recommend to leave enough PSU headroom to where you are not running your power supply over 80% load (especially non 80plus certified ones). You never know what people may have in their PC on the interweb so I just provide a recommendation.
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Should I be worried about these temps? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Is your distance to max correct there?

What is your TjMax in CoreTemp?
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