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I'm getting 48C on air @ 1519/8018 - Witcher 3 and SW:BF using a modified MUMOD for my card. I switched some things around in the case, now idle temps are 23C.
Edited by DeathAngel74 - 1/31/16 at 12:30pm
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Originally Posted by ssiperko View Post

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Water territory is under 45c under the heaviest load UNLESS you're using a 120 radiator in a hot box.

My card hit 40c today and it's warm in here now ..... I should open a window.

Example ...... my 100% air cooled box in the geeeerage will run at 20c under a heavy load when the door is cracked and it's in the mid 20's F where this box will around 3-5c in the same conditions. So reality is water territory temps are another 15c less than you mentioned...... of course EVERYTHING is variable and dependent on ambients. wink.gifthumb.gif

SS


Yes my friend but just because your particular setup runs at 40C (great setup btw) doesn't mean that anything above it is not considered Watercooling.

Think of it like that:

Most Out of the factory watercooled cards do indeed come with only one radiator and usually Stack around the high 50s and even low 60s in some cases under heavy load .

Examples: Fury X, 980ti seahawk, 980ti WC Xtreme etc

I can provide links for my temp claims on those cards but that's not the point is it.

Point is that when Laithan makes a H2O version on his BIOS for e.g. the watercooled Xtreme version, my AC version gets same or better temps and I choose to be adventurus and try it.

Also i'd like to point as a plus that 55C of my card is under BIG OC and that with stock clocks it was around 50C.
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Originally Posted by MikeGR7 View Post

Thank you very much for your reply Laithan.


I understand your warning for using the H20 BIOS on an aircooled card as this is a global warning and does apply in a lot of users with varying degrees of experience.


(Talking between us though i must give you some more details: The Xtreme's cooler is NOT the "100W" better the numbers suggest than G1's cooler!

i had a G1 980ti with a custom BIOS and i assure you that the difference between them is closer to 15C under load. Both my current Xtreme and my
old G1 have the same 72.8% Asic but the Xtreme enjoys a full 100Mhz better core OC!

My G1 was max @1481/7600 and up to 67C with the fans 100%.

My Xtreme goes at a massive 1570-1590/8000 only up to 55C with the fans 100%.

Now that 55C is water territory and maybe is part of the reason the Xtreme OCs better. Using your old H2O BIOS the card barely broke 60C under Hours of heavy load.


PERSONAL Conclusion is this:
I feel pretty safe to test your new H2O BIOS with my PARTICULAR XTREME card, even though based on my earlier findings it won't do much for further OC.)

True and I speak a lot to the "Audience" also in my replies to individuals. I am sure you get it wink.gif

I just want to say for the record that when I speak of temps I am talking about the worst case scenarios. These are the ones that matter though right? Nobody wants to be in the middle of some intense action and fry their GPU because it was running at 108C..

My point is that the temps CAN sneak up on you. This is also why I encourage a really strenuous test when testing MOD BIOS' to make sure you aren't using a "Firestrike run" for example to represent GPU temps.. a Firestrike run doesn't even get the GPUs warmed up much in comparison smile.gif

PS. I was just going by what the Manufacturer claims not talking out my hindside tongue.gif



Agree about the ASIC, it means nothing as far as max overclock it just means what voltage will be required to get there.


Ok, time to flex your muscles Mr. Extreme GPU wink.gif

This task, should you choose to accept it: If you want to take your GPU to the really dark, creepy crime infested, drug dealing, hustling worst neighborhoods that a GPU can venture, do this:

(1) Open GPU-z, enable logging (click on the sensor tab, check the box and choose a location to save the log file where you can find it)

(2) Open FFXIV free benchmark. Configure settings. Click on MAXIMUM. Adjust resolution to 3840x2160 (4k, and if you don't have a 4k monitor go into the NVIDIA control panel, 3d settings, global, enable DSR 4x and apply the settings.

(3) Set your GPU to your maximum known stable overclock and overclock your GPU memory to your maximum known stable overclock.

(4) Configure OSD (on screen display) to show your GPU temps during the test (or use an LCD keyboard, I use Logitech G510 but don't buy it, the keys suck). You will need to keep an eye on the temps.

(5) Make sure you set your fan to 80% or use a custom fan curve

(6) Run the benchmark..record the results and share them here.


This way we can all see the difference with the extreme cooler. Would love to see the detailed results. Thank you in advance.
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Please also include a screenshot of GPU-z sensor GUI


Quote:
Originally Posted by ssiperko View Post

rolleyes.gif

Water territory is under 45c under the heaviest load UNLESS you're using a 120 radiator in a hot box.

My card hit 40c today and it's warm in here now ..... I should open a window.

Example ...... my 100% air cooled box in the geeeerage will run at 20c under a heavy load when the door is cracked and it's in the mid 20's F where this box will around 3-5c in the same conditions. So reality is water territory temps are another 15c less than you mentioned...... of course EVERYTHING is variable and dependent on ambients. wink.gifthumb.gif

SS

Agree, I have a 140mm + 420mm loop dedicated to both my 980Ti's and my motherboard's Northbridge/Southbridge and I topped out at 48C during my ~3 hour Witcher 3 gaming session @ 4k with max settings. My CPU is on another dedicated loop.

25C ambient here smile.gif

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Originally Posted by NikolayNeykov View Post

Playing wicher 3 for hours on the default clocks on V4BETAF4 (1455Mhz) and max temp are 76 degree which is enough for me, so i better not update to any other bioses?
Btw i think i sow screen flicker 2-3 times when i lost picture for a ms in game and when loading windows flickes, anyone else experience that with V4BETAF4?
Also want to report another bug, i don't know why my dota 2 crash every time i start it after 4-5 sec and as well do flicking with starting. /edit: i think i find the problem is when i turn on riva tuner on screen display support or when its on by default.
Otherwise it's really good because i don't hit perf caps.


You should definitely flash RC1. It is going to be better in every way. Consider it like a windows service pack update tongue.gif. The change from 1.237v to 1.243v is only 0.006v difference so I wouldn't specifically worry about the temps compared to V4BETAF4, I suspect they will be virtually identical smile.gif. If you insist, you can always back off the voltage a little with the voltage slider also if needed (perfcaps are expected then because you are intentionally limiting voltage).
Edited by Laithan - 1/31/16 at 1:12pm
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UPDATE!

NEW GIGABYTE 980Ti WATERFORCE EXTREME H2O BIOS


MUMOD Release Candidate #1 (This one is going to be close to final if not final)
H2O_RC1F10_980TiWATERFORCE.zip 146k .zip file
     DS BIOS for H2O (DO NOT USE LN2 SWITCH)

What's new in this version?
✿► New file naming convention starting with this version to help avoid confusion as we support multiple BIOS' in this thread.
      ▬ Filename Key: H2O_RC1F10_WATERFORCE
      ▬ GREEN = Cooling type (AIR/H2O)
      ▬ ORANGE = Modified BIOS version
      ▬ RED = Gigabyte BIOS version
      ▬ BLUE = Which GPU the BIOS was developed for


✿► H2O_RC1F10_DS is based upon our proven V4BETAF4 and V1BETAH2O BIOS
      ▬ Voltage / Voltage table modifications
      ▬ Maximum voltage has been increased to 1.293v (1.287v in BIOS)

✿► Super Throttle Bug fixed (finally)
      ▬ Turned out to be power related.
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NEW GIGABYTE 980Ti EXTREMEAIR BIOS


MUMOD Release Candidate #1
AIR_RC1F10_980TiEXTREME.zip 146k .zip file
   DS BIOS for AIR (DO NOT USE LN2 SWITCH)

What's new in this version?
✿► New file naming convention starting with this version to help avoid confusion as we support multiple BIOS' in this thread.
      ▬ Filename Key: AIR_RC1F10_980Ti EXTREME
      ▬ GREEN = Cooling type (AIR/H2O)
      ▬ ORANGE = Modified BIOS version
      ▬ RED = Gigabyte BIOS version
      ▬ BLUE = Which GPU the BIOS was developed for


✿► AIR_RC1F10_DS is based upon our proven V4BETAF4 and V1BETAH2O BIOS
      ▬ Voltage / Voltage table modifications
      ▬ Maximum voltage has been increased to 1.256v (1.250v in BIOS)

✿► Super Throttle Bug fixed (finally)
      ▬ Turned out to be power related.
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Originally Posted by Laithan View Post

You should definitely flash RC1. It is going to be better in every way. Consider it like a windows service pack update tongue.gif. The change from 1.237v to 1.243v is only 0.006v difference so I wouldn't specifically worry about the temps compared to V4BETAF4, I suspect they will be virtually identical smile.gif. If you insist, you can always back off the voltage a little with the voltage slider also if needed (perfcaps are expected then because you are intentionally limiting voltage).

Anyone tested this with GV-N98TWF3OC-6GD? Need to be sure it's not for G1 only smile.gif
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NikolayNeykov View Post

Anyone tested this with GV-N98TWF3OC-6GD? Need to be sure it's not for G1 only smile.gif

It's the same exact BIOS as V4BETAF4 with different tweaks applied. The same one you flashed smile.gif
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Well, i guess i will be the first one, so i putted it without a problem smile.gif This time it doesn't roll back my motherboard bios to prev ones =) will try to see how it is in game smile.gif
edit: It's getting hot quite fast, but it keeps 70-72 degree with 78-80 % fan lol i have a flying machine :d
Edited by NikolayNeykov - 1/31/16 at 2:44pm
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Originally Posted by 0xzz View Post

yeah i have everything maxxed in msi ab, no there was no tdr. i flashed the new bios, rebooted and ran ffxiv.
im running two seperate power cables from my bequiet dark power pro 11 850W, i think its a multirail but i could put a jumper on two pins on the back of the psu to turn it into a singlerail.
just reran ffxiv at 1586/4000 and i still see power perfcaps sometimes when i get over 124% power.
attaching the log:
GPU-ZSensorLog.txt 1405k .txt file

Thanks for the feedback!!!
Sorry, I must have not refreshed my page or something, missed this.

I will take a look when I get back later. I may post a BIOS for you to try with higher power limits.

PLEASE do try SINGLE-RAIL mode, it could make a big difference.
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Originally Posted by Laithan View Post

Thanks for the feedback!!!
Sorry, I must have not refreshed my page or something, missed this.

I will take a look when I get back later. I may post a BIOS for you to try with higher power limits.

PLEASE do try SINGLE-RAIL mode, it could make a big difference.

ok thanks.
looks like i wont be able to switch to single rail mode in the near future, the port where the jumper needs to be placed is blocked by a fan i put in the bottom of my case so if i put the jumper in the fan wont fit :/
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