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yes the maximum voltage is set in the bios, when you increase the voltage in afterburner, you just allow your card to use the max voltage that is set in the bios.
what is the ASIC of your card? with a low asic value you need more voltage to push your card higher, with a high ASIC your card can boost high without much additional voltage
It is 77.9 ASIC It does get a pretty decent boost. It boosts to 1442 at stock settings.
Edited by Rob27shred - 2/1/16 at 12:10pm
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It is 77.9 ASIC It does get a pretty decent boost. It boosts to 1442 at stock settings.

yeah thats a really good score, you should get a high oc without much additional voltage but its always better to use a custom bios to eliminate any perfcaps
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yeah thats a really good score, you should get a high oc without much additional voltage but its always better to use a custom bios to eliminate any perfcaps
Yeah I am definitely gonna flash the custom bios for my cards tonight when I have the time. Also I'm thinking your right about the extra voltage helping I was just able to pass 4 loops of Heaven at 1518/2001 with no artifacting or crashes with these settings through AB. I think having the voltage set to +35 was just low enough to let the voltage drop to 1.21v, now at +45 it dropped to 1.21 for a second then jumped back to 1.23v. Running at just +130% PL & that +35mv may be the source of my crashes. Still gonna give the custom BIOS a try to eliminate as many variables as I can. Thanks again for the help!
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Yeah I am definitely gonna flash the custom bios for my cards tonight when I have the time. Also I'm thinking your right about the extra voltage helping I was just able to pass 4 loops of Heaven at 1518/2001 with no artifacting or crashes with these settings through AB. I think having the voltage set to +35 was just low enough to let the voltage drop to 1.21v, now at +45 it dropped to 1.21 for a second then jumped back to 1.23v. Running at just +130% PL & that +35mv may be the source of my crashes. Still gonna give the custom BIOS a try to eliminate as many variables as I can. Thanks again for the help!

is there any reason you dont just max the voltage slider all the time?? why set it to +45 when you can just set it all the way up??
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I have to run my card at +63mv or it starts artifacting.
    
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I have to run my card at +63mv or it starts artifacting.

ah ok, i didnt know that this was an issue on some cards thumb.gif
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is there any reason you dont just max the voltage slider all the time?? why set it to +45 when you can just set it all the way up??
Just being cautious really. My card don't go over 1.23v which it goes up to at +35, I went to +45 cause it will hold 1.23v stable at that setting. I haven't maxed it out cause it stays at 1.23v with anything above +35 & I do not know if it will cause extra heat even though the card tops out at 1.23v. From everything I have read & been told about GM200 chips keeping the temp as low as possible is much more important than adding extra voltage when OCing a Titan X or 980ti. Not sure how true or not that is though. I will give max extra voltage a try when I get home to see if it helps any. The one strange thing about my card is it just does not artifact at all? In all the benching I have done with it so far it will either complete the benchmark or just crash, no artifacting whatsoever to warn that the settings I am using are good or not. Not sure why that it is sinc any other card I have messed with will artifact when being pushed farther than it can handle.
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Just being cautious really. My card don't go over 1.23v which it goes up to at +35, I went to +45 cause it will hold 1.23v stable at that setting. I haven't maxed it out cause it stays at 1.23v with anything above +35 & I do not know if it will cause extra heat even though the card tops out at 1.23v. From everything I have read & been told about GM200 chips keeping the temp as low as possible is much more important than adding extra voltage when OCing a Titan X or 980ti. Not sure how true or not that is though. I will give max extra voltage a try when I get home to see if it helps any.

imo voltage is very important, as long as you keep your card below 80C for 24/7 use you should be fine. but it your card tops out at 1.23v anyway you might as well wait until you have a custom bios before you max voltage
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imo voltage is very important, as long as you keep your card below 80C for 24/7 use you should be fine. but it your card tops out at 1.23v anyway you might as well wait until you have a custom bios before you max voltage
I am beginning to think it is very important with the GM200s as well. I do definitely get better & more stable results with it running at 1.23v. Once I get back to the lab & try out some different settings & an a unlocked bios I will report back what I find. My temps definitely have some headroom for more voltage than 1.23v since my card tops out at 70C at that voltage. The Windforce cooler is pretty impressive. thumb.gif
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It really is not THAT bad and my card overclocks WONDERFULLY, (i sit safely with room to grow at 1500 on the core and 3800 on the memory and never goes higher than 73c) I actually have had it since august and have been using your bios since then as well. I will most likely just hang on to it and see if it gets worse as i have no igpu and i can't be without a pc lol i may just apply newer thermal paste to it as well. I still have like 2 and a half years on the warranty and i may want to upgrade before then biggrin.gif

EDIT: i just called GB and it looks like they offer advanced replacement, so that is what I will do:thumb:

Excellent, something I wasn't able to get frown.gif

Wish you the best of luck on the new GPU! specool.gif


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so i just ran ffxiv on testbios3 and i saw the same throttling as on RC1 so 4watts is not enough...
i ended the test early because even msi ab with 1second polling rate reported the throttling:
GPU-ZSensorLogtest3.txt 808k .txt file


just flashed testbios4 and now my power% slider in msi ab has an upper limit of 149%, not 150%, is this supposed to be or a bug?


Just a slight config issue. There are two values that are identical, one is rounded down one is rounded up, it is no problem at all as far as testing, same values just a visual thing saying 149% instead of 150%.


Any perfcaps with this test 4?


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Got a question for you GB gurus here. I recently got a GB Xtreme Windforce 980ti & have ran into some problems with OCing it. Even at it's stock settings I get a constant percap of Vrel in GPUz, & I am not getting much of an OC out of it at all. Temps are the only thing I am happy with on this card as I have never seen them go over 72C even with the voltage up at 1.23. The problem is no matter what I do it ends up crashing with an OC above 1501 on the core & the memory has been even more frustrating as there have been times I've been able to run it at 2000 & times that even a 50Mhz bump on the mem caused crashes. Also another very strange thing I have noticed about this particular card is I have never seen any artifacting with it, it just straight up crashes with no warning. For the most part the crashes will be just video driver crashes where the screen will blank out for a sec then the game or benchmark I happen to be running will come back on with no sound & the card will start running at 1216Mhz core. Do you guys think flashing the bios to something different would help or did I just get a dud that I need to send back to GB?

I am very frustrated since I got this card to do some decent OCing & be able to play my games at 2k to 4k res. So far none of that is really happening with the exception of a couple firestrike runs I got to complete at 1553/2001 with 35Mv added on top of the 130% PL. Since then I have not been able to reproduce those results & have never been able to play games at those clock speeds.Right now to be able to game without crashes the best I can do is 1261/1801 with PL set to 130% which ends up giving me 1487.5/1800.5 after boost according to GPUz with a constant Perfcap of Vrel no matter what I do! I am using AB to do my OCing & have added no extra voltage other than turning the PL up to 130% with my current settings. My sig rig is currently up to date if you are wondering what other components I am using, I am also using the current 361.75 drivers . Any help would be greatly appreciated as I am very unhappy with my card as it stands & am really considering contacting GB for an exchange. The constant Vrel Perfcap is what is bothering me the most as it does it no matter if I am using the stock settings or an OC. I really do not think that it should be doing that & it has me starting to think I have a defective card. mad.gif


Perfcaps are perfectly normal with a STOCK BIOS even with both sliders maxxed. That's one of the "features" of the BIOS' here, the perfcaps are removed (still tweaking). Sounds like you want a MOD BIOS smile.gif

We just happen to have one for your GPU that will remove perfcaps smile.gif
http://www.overclock.net/t/1544574/gigabyte-gtx-9xx-g1-gaming-h2o-air-bios-tweaking/3320#post_24848728



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