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Originally Posted by grasskisser View Post

Hey Laithan.

I've noticed i can reach my current 24/7 clocks with 1.212mV, is that weird?

Clocks are 1551 core and 7990 mem, card is gtx 980 g1 gaming, no TDRs and no PerfCaps with this bios. 980_d_d_1212.zip 136k .zip file

Can you find anything wrong with it?

Not weird.

My 980 G1 also can do 1550/7800 with stock voltage 1.212v (0mV MSI AB). ASIC 75.8% and Samsung Vram
BF4 is stable, GTA V gives artifacts though.
What's your vram brand? what's your ASIC?
post #3522 of 7284
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Originally Posted by Krgwow View Post

well, someone can help me understand whats going on?

I've a GTX 980 G1, downloaded Gamestable BIOS a while ago, then that BIOS...

The thing is... the core clock by default is 1531 Mhz right? for start i can't let that there, i start seeing artifacts(not much) on Rust for example(curiously not on GTA V or The Witcher 3), if i decrease to 1518 the problem is solved, but that's not the thing disturbing me... i can't overclock almost ANYTHING on memory, if i put on 7.500 i start seeing artifacts, if i put 7600+ it start giving me driver crashes on Rocket League

things are so bizarre that sometimes i get crashes on games, minimize and then appears: THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN BLOCK FROM ACESSING YOU GRAPHICS HARDWARE(never see that in my life), seconds later > GRAPHICS CARD STOP RESPONDING

Config:
i5 3570k 4.6 Ghz
asrock z77pro 4
gtx 980 g1
cx 600w corsair
2x4 gb ripjaws ddr1600


maybe its my PSU?
i'm buying in a few days a i7 6700K, already bought ddr4 3200 mhz and a MSI Krait Motherboard, but that GTX 980 makes me too sad to upgrade my PC frown.gif

You lost the silicon lottery man sorry
Simply your card is not capable of 1530MHz +
And your vram is not very good either.
ASIC and vram brand?
post #3523 of 7284
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Originally Posted by mahanddeem View Post

You lost the silicon lottery man sorry
Simply your card is not capable of 1530MHz +
And your vram is not very good either.
ASIC and vram brand?

ASIC 70.8%
Memory Samsung...

frown.gif
post #3524 of 7284
Don't feel bad. I lost the silicon lottery with my GPU, but won with my CPU. Gonna push that sucka to 5GHz once I get full water loop. My GPU is 67.9 ASIC 1519 is the limit on the core.
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Set clock to 1500
and VRAM to 7400 effective
Still good for an overclock
The way I think about it is that the most expensive 980 (and fastest stock) is the Asus 980 Gold edition which is 1430 boost/7010 VRAM and you're still faster than that.
https://www.asus.com/us/Graphics-Cards/GOLD20THGTX980P4GD5/specifications/
Edited by mahanddeem - 2/12/16 at 3:27pm
post #3526 of 7284
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Originally Posted by SSJVegeta View Post

Thanks! Managed to finally settle on 1580 / 4055 which is stable with no artifacts or crashes on everything I've tried it on at 4K such as FFXIV Bench loop for 2 hours, Unigine Valley & Heaven, Just Cause 3, Rise of the Tomb Raider thumb.gif

Thank you for the feedback! post-flame-small.gif


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Originally Posted by jrgray93 View Post

So I used the 980 Ti Waterforce BIOS from the OP here, tweaked the fan settings on it to default for a low idle and manually set a more aggressive fan curve to keep it at or below 60C.

Afterburner settings:
+90 mV
130% power
+94 MHz Core
+398 MHz Memory

I'm hitting 1600 MHz on the core and 8000 MHz on the memory. Any less on the voltage and it won't boost to the full 1600. Trying for 1610 was not stable, so I'm right on the edge of what it will give me.

I'm just curious how safe this really is. On the stock BIOS, I could hit about 1550-1570 MHz or so. As I understand it, the voltage is capping at 1.293 with this BIOS. With the stock BIOS, I believe I was hitting 1.237 for max boost.

Any feedback or suggestions?

Thanks for the feedback. That's sweet!

You have BOTH the power% and voltage sliders maxxed out right?

As far as safety, no there's never any guarantee that by using this BIOS you won't accidentally blow up your neighborhood exclamation.gif

laughingsmiley.gif
Actually all kidding aside the tweaks are not extreme. The power is within specification of what the PCI-e rails can deliver (as long as you are feeding the GPU DEDICATED PCI-e cables directly from your power supply. NO doubling up and/or using splitters/adapters of any kind). The power supply must be strong enough as noted by the PSU requirements. Lastly the voltage is quite low on AIR cards and even the H2O BIOS is not using the maximum limit of the voltage controller (which is over 1.3v).

Flash at your own risk as they say but we've got some pretty satisfied customers around here. I'm one of them wink.gif


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Originally Posted by grasskisser View Post

Hey Laithan.

I've noticed i can reach my current 24/7 clocks with 1.212mV, is that weird?

Clocks are 1551 core and 7990 mem, card is gtx 980 g1 gaming, no TDRs and no PerfCaps with this bios. 980_d_d_1212.zip 136k .zip file

Can you find anything wrong with it?


BIOS looks good!
You most likely have a fairly high ASIC% and in addition you have good silicon. This combination is what is referred to as "the silicon lottery" and YOU WON! biggrin.gif
Congratz!


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Originally Posted by jrgray93 View Post

Following up my previous post...

I would still like to get that 1600 MHz, but I'd prefer to keep the voltage as low as possible to achieve it. I think the BIOS included here is a tad more aggressive than I require. I guess my options are to increase the max voltage on the stock BIOS for the maximum boost states, lower the voltage on the BIOS from this thread to where I want it, or to just lower the voltage slider on the new BIOS to lower the maximum boost state achieved and then increase the core MHz to reach 1600 at that state.

Again, any feedback would be appreciated. I'm new to this. Still learning.

The only thing about these BIOS' that should be "aggressive" would be your mandatory custom fan curve thumb.gif

You can always use the voltage slider if you want to reduce voltage it will just be limiting the GPU (so you will see perfcaps, expected but fine) and isn't the way you would overclock these GPUs. When overclocking you'll want BOTH the power% and voltage maxxed out. These BIOS' are designed for that (when overclocking) as they will allow the best overclocking conditions for your GPU.

Just keep an eye on temps (don't let it go over 80C-85C at the VERY worst) and you'll be just fine. smile.gif


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Originally Posted by nicksmizzle View Post

got my replacement cards in today...one was whining louder than my original! so looks like i'm sending one new and one old back and i'm keeping these because the liklihood of getting another loud card is quite high again mad.gif
BUT I flashed your bios and everything is running great aside from a bit of whine thumb.gif

Ok..WHAT THE @(#($*$#(!! QC SUX!
I am sorry brother.. You WILL have something better!! YOU WILL! (sux to wait again frown.gif )

HONORARY SWEARING: Can everyone please stand up and cuss like a sailor in honor of nicksmizzle? The GPU godz will hear....






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Originally Posted by Krgwow View Post

well, someone can help me understand whats going on?

I've a GTX 980 G1, downloaded Gamestable BIOS a while ago, then that BIOS...

The thing is... the core clock by default is 1531 Mhz right? for start i can't let that there, i start seeing artifacts(not much) on Rust for example(curiously not on GTA V or The Witcher 3), if i decrease to 1518 the problem is solved, but that's not the thing disturbing me... i can't overclock almost ANYTHING on memory, if i put on 7.500 i start seeing artifacts, if i put 7600+ it start giving me driver crashes on Rocket League

things are so bizarre that sometimes i get crashes on games, minimize and then appears: THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN BLOCK FROM ACESSING YOU GRAPHICS HARDWARE(never see that in my life), seconds later > GRAPHICS CARD STOP RESPONDING

Config:
i5 3570k 4.6 Ghz
asrock z77pro 4
gtx 980 g1
cx 600w corsair
2x4 gb ripjaws ddr1600


maybe its my PSU?
i'm buying in a few days a i7 6700K, already bought ddr4 3200 mhz and a MSI Krait Motherboard, but that GTX 980 makes me too sad to upgrade my PC frown.gif


"Gamestable" BIOS from Zoson's thread (we don't have a gamestable BIOS here) or did you mean the one from the OP in this thread?
Are BOTH your voltage and power% sliders maxxed out?


Have you tested with a custom fan curve or fan @ 100% to see if a thermal issue?
Over 95% of the 980G1's ran great @ 1531Mhz boost default (with both power% and voltage sliders maxxed) and were able to go even higher so unfortunately you may just have a poor overclocking GPU. I am hoping maybe your sliders were not maxxed and that solves the problem for you.

Good luck! Let us know



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Originally Posted by megax05 View Post

Hi and thanks for this awesome bios Mod I did flash the DP bios for my 980 ti G1 Gaming and managed to get up to 1520/8000 with only 150% PL and without overvolt however ,when running Heaven benchmark I see the core speed went down to 1480 in the end of the benchmark and temp maxed out @ 76c in a 25c ambient .
another issue is GPU-Z read my core boost @ 1696 while afterburner OSD shows 1520 I dont know if its a glitch or something wrong.

Thanks for feedback smile.gif

If you are seeing 1696Mhz you may be confusing the CORE GPU clock speed and the BOOST GPU clock speed.

You want to start out like this. Adding nothing to core and nothing to memory but max out both voltage and power % sliders.

Monitor your boost with GPU-z smile.gif

Like this (boy this pic get's thrown around a lot wink.gif )

Edited by Laithan - 2/12/16 at 3:42pm
post #3527 of 7284
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Originally Posted by Krgwow View Post

well, someone can help me understand whats going on?

I've a GTX 980 G1, downloaded Gamestable BIOS a while ago, then that BIOS...

The thing is... the core clock by default is 1531 Mhz right? for start i can't let that there, i start seeing artifacts(not much) on Rust for example(curiously not on GTA V or The Witcher 3), if i decrease to 1518 the problem is solved, but that's not the thing disturbing me... i can't overclock almost ANYTHING on memory, if i put on 7.500 i start seeing artifacts, if i put 7600+ it start giving me driver crashes on Rocket League

things are so bizarre that sometimes i get crashes on games, minimize and then appears: THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN BLOCK FROM ACESSING YOU GRAPHICS HARDWARE(never see that in my life), seconds later > GRAPHICS CARD STOP RESPONDING

Config:
i5 3570k 4.6 Ghz
asrock z77pro 4
gtx 980 g1
cx 600w corsair
2x4 gb ripjaws ddr1600


maybe its my PSU?
i'm buying in a few days a i7 6700K, already bought ddr4 3200 mhz and a MSI Krait Motherboard, but that GTX 980 makes me too sad to upgrade my PC frown.gif
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krgwow View Post

ASIC 70.8%
Memory Samsung...

frown.gif

Hey Krgwow, I just tested Far Cry 4 right now. I can quickly test other games if you wish.

1080P
At my current scene I get 152FPS@1430MHz
At 1501MHz I get 156FPS
At 1531MHz I get 158FPS

1440P
I get 99FPS@1430MHz
At 1501MHz I get 102FPS
At 1531MHz I get 104FPS

I wouldn't worry much about +30MHz which will give you about 1-3FPS usually depending on the game/resolution.

1500-1510MHz is pretty good gaming wise for 980. I know I got a Ti but I guess the performance increased should be similar. thumb.gif

*Just hold on if you can't stand it until the new cards arrive and sell it then.

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Originally Posted by mahanddeem View Post

Set clock to 1500
and VRAM to 7400 effective
Still good for an overclock
The way I think about it is that the most expensive 980 (and fastest stock) is the Asus 980 Gold edition which is 1430 boost/7010 VRAM and you're still faster than that.
https://www.asus.com/us/Graphics-Cards/GOLD20THGTX980P4GD5/specifications/

+1 Good advice. smile.gif
Edited by Koniakki - 2/12/16 at 4:04pm
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Laithan if I want to increase my stock 980G1 bios to max values for power table. I need increased power software-less. What should I put for first set(TDP) and what for the powet limit set?

I don't want to use any overclock software. Maybe for fan curve and that's all.
Edited by mahanddeem - 2/12/16 at 4:36pm
post #3529 of 7284
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Originally Posted by mahanddeem View Post

Not weird.

My 980 G1 also can do 1550/7800 with stock voltage 1.212v (0mV MSI AB). ASIC 75.8% and Samsung Vram
BF4 is stable, GTA V gives artifacts though.
What's your vram brand? what's your ASIC?

Vram is Samsung. ASIC is 70.1.
No artifacts in GTA V or FFXIV@2160p.

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Originally Posted by Laithan View Post

BIOS looks good!
You most likely have a fairly high ASIC% and in addition you have good silicon. This combination is what is referred to as "the silicon lottery" and YOU WON! biggrin.gif
Congratz!

Thanks. The weird thing is that at 1560 core and 3995 mem i start getting artifacts in GTA V even with 1.281.3 mV. Does voltage not help my card at all?
post #3530 of 7284
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Originally Posted by mahanddeem View Post

Laithan if I want to increase my stock 980G1 bios to max values for power table. I need increased power software-less. What should I put for first set(TDP) and what for the powet limit set?

I don't want to use any overclock software. Maybe for fan curve and that's all.

Default and Maximum TDP values I always set to the same value as the max allowed power. You can't have default and maximum power both set to the same so you'll have to set the default slightly lower than the maximum. smile.gif

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Originally Posted by grasskisser View Post

Vram is Samsung. ASIC is 70.1.
No artifacts in GTA V or FFXIV@2160p.
Thanks. The weird thing is that at 1560 core and 3995 mem i start getting artifacts in GTA V even with 1.281.3 mV. Does voltage not help my card at all?


Artifacts sometimes occur and there's nothing you can do about it but reduce the overclock (or in extreme cases return the GPU). Keep MEMORY at stock settings to make sure it isn't a memory failure causing them. Additional voltage can help with stability and allow a higher overclock but I haven't seen it remove artifacts directly. Other times if you get lucky removing the cooler and replacing the stock thermal compound with something better and ensuring all the heat transfer pads (or upgrade them) are perfectly on the memory chips and VRM may help if your heat transfer pads and/or compound wasn't applied "perfectly" at the factory. If your VRMs are overheating (we can't measure that temp with software) then you'll need to find a way to cool them. Watch temps. If you can't touch the backplate on your GPU without saying "Ouch" you don't have enough cooling smile.gif. Open your case. Try putting your fan on 100% (or maybe 85% good enough) and add some supplemental fans just as a test to see if additional cooling removes the artifcats and then you know it is a thermal issue. 80mm fans with zipties for little adjustable feet works wonders resting on top of your backplate and is a super cheap fix! tongue.gif
Edited by Laithan - 2/12/16 at 6:01pm
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