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Originally Posted by mahanddeem View Post

If Laithan allows me to mod RC1 BIOS fan settings for you I would be glad to do it smile.gif

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Originally Posted by Laithan View Post

Go-fert! thumb.gif

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Originally Posted by NikolayNeykov View Post

Here is my stock / default fan setting (on the left) in bios and the RC1 (right) one which i am on currently:

Here's what you want, kudos for sure to Laithan the master here. I edited fan setting as follows:

Fan zero at 48c
Fan 50% at 65c
Fan 100% at 83c

See this screenshot, vBIOS can have only 3 points for fan curve, this is what I edited in this vBIOS. Next to it a presentation of this curve using MSI AB fan settings.


And here's the custom fan AIR RC1 F4 DP vBIOS
DISCLAIMER: USE AND FLASH THIS vBIOS AT YOUR OWN RISK, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE, BRICK, OVERHEAT, OR ANY MALFUNCTION.
Custom_Fan_Air_RC1_F4_DP.zip 152k .zip file

Edit: Monitor fan performance while gaming, preferably using MSI AB OSD showing gpu temp and fan percentage to make sure it suits your need.
Edited by mahanddeem - 2/26/16 at 9:51pm
post #3792 of 7447
i dont know if my repaste job is bad but I still get high temps like stock bios I am getting max of 78c with ambient temps around 24-26c while play ACS @ 4k high settings
my case is the corsair vengeance c70 with 3x 120 intake front and bottom + 3x exhaust 120mm 2 from the rad of the h100i at the top + 1 in the rear of the case.
I see most of the users hovering around 65-70c on air mine went up to 80c in few occasions.

for the thermal paste I used noctua NT-H1
also have some CLU liquid metal somewhere but didnt try it yet.
post #3793 of 7447
Thanks, but i think i will use my stock fan settings, exept for tbe 100% which i need to figure out what is the max speed on my wf3oc fans to put it there, otherwise i think the mid one that start the fans need to be the lowest point like 1100 so it will be good for games like dota 2 which use 20-30% fan which i play most often
Edited by NikolayNeykov - 2/27/16 at 12:35am
post #3794 of 7447
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Originally Posted by Laithan View Post

Thanks for the feedback. Please provide a GPU-z log of when this happens.

You can see a couple seconds of it a little over halfway through the log here (at 23:03:44). This was playing BF4

GPU-ZSensorLog.txt 526k .txt file
Edited by gabriel21st - 2/27/16 at 12:53am
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Gigabyte support is inspecting my logs i wait and then update you when i'll know something.
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Originally Posted by GeraltOfRivia View Post

Sure mate! smile.gif

Keep in mind that I use global adaptive power management in nVidia control panel, and performance for specific games and 3D applications.
I setted my fans on afterburner like this, for now:

till 51° --> 0%
at 52° --> 15%
at 56° --> 35%
at 61° --> 50%
at 69° --> 60%
at 72° --> 65%
at 74° --> 70%

Of course it will raise at a certain point till 74°.. then you'll hear for sure the fans rolling. But hey, this is it speaking about air cooling. wink.gif
I'll be testing next days to not go over 76°.. otherwise I wil have to raise the fans rotation more than 70%.
that is one interesting curve i will try it tonight with the point on 74 degree with 70% fan smile.gif
Edited by NikolayNeykov - 2/27/16 at 3:34am
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Originally Posted by Laithan View Post

Absolutely! I have an unlocked classy BIOS already. wink.gif I just updated it to RC2 specs. As always, max voltage and power % sliders wink.gif

980Ticlassyunlockedandmodded.zip 152k .zip file

I just don't know how the classy's voltage unlock works..is it unlocked all the time like Gigabyte cards or do you need an additional app that can address the programmable voltage controller?
Same here.. I was unfortunately that guy with the "11 the GPU".

My understanding is that the results are actually pretty different between a 980 and a 980Ti as far as "everyone" or "most" being able to hit 8000Mhz.

** With 970/980's, most people would have better success overclocking RAM (to 8000) with SAMSUNG memory. I was one of those who could not unfortunately (7800 max) and I had Samsung on both my 980's. Samsung memory was used on the 1st run 970/980 G1's. Later came 970/980's with Hynix memory and those with Hynix memory were usually singing the blues (unable to run @ 8000). There was a lot of buzz about this, people wanted Samsung cards.

** This changed with 980Ti... not because of the GPU (I don't think) but because the memory manufacturers are able to produce better/more stable memory. The memory contract was won by Hynix so all of the 1st run 980Ti G1 cards (Gigabyte anyway) came with Hynix memory this time. I have not heard of even one person that could not overclock Hynix 980Ti memory to 8000 yet (I can personally push much higher / mine are Hynix 1st run on my 980Ti's). Later now we see Samsung being used again (total reverse of what happened with 970/980). smile.gif All the new extreme and waterforce cards now come with Samsung too.

upsidedwnsmiley.gif

Hi Laithan,
Would you recommend using this BIOS on an EVGA 980Ti Classified on air? My memory seems stable at +630Mhz however throttling kicks in when the core is clocked much past +50Mhz or even just 50. E.g. It will boost to 1455Mhz, hit 66c then throttles to 1442 or lower. Would the increased P00 and P02 values in the voltage table stop this happening? I am basically trying to get the card to run flat out until it hits 75c+ as I do not believe 65c should cause the card to throttle.

Setting 1300mV and Kboost it reaches higher temperatures quicker, power limit can go upto 118% but again, around 66c the card throttles down and even drops to 1190Mhz if it gets to ~73c

A couple of other things, this BIOS shows 'Boost Limit 1455.5Mhz' whereas mine is greyed out - Will this be the top limit?

The version of this one is 84.00.36.00.92 and my current one is - 84.00.41.00.90 - any issue?

Thanks
post #3798 of 7447
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mahanddeem View Post



Fan zero at 48c
Fan 50% at 65c
Fan 100% at 83c

See this screenshot, vBIOS can have only 3 points for fan curve, this is what I edited in this vBIOS. Next to it a presentation of this curve using MSI AB fan settings.



Thanks for the feedback for the fan parameters!


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Originally Posted by megax05 View Post

i dont know if my repaste job is bad but I still get high temps like stock bios I am getting max of 78c with ambient temps around 24-26c while play ACS @ 4k high settings
my case is the corsair vengeance c70 with 3x 120 intake front and bottom + 3x exhaust 120mm 2 from the rad of the h100i at the top + 1 in the rear of the case.
I see most of the users hovering around 65-70c on air mine went up to 80c in few occasions.

for the thermal paste I used noctua NT-H1
also have some CLU liquid metal somewhere but didnt try it yet.

I would NOT recommend using CLU/CLA *EVER* on a GPU. It's electrically conductive... now look at a GM200 GPU and see what is all around the sides? wink.gif

There is also no guarantee re-applying TIM is going to make a huge difference but I bet it did (just how noticeable). It's very difficult to do an equal comparison if things like ambient temps are even slightly different. Your TIM may also need curing time (but NT-H1 has a very fast curing time) so maybe it will get better in a day or so?

Having said that, as far as temps that others report, people don't like to report worst case scenarios tongue.gif I can run a single firestrike test without the demo and then again with the demo and have drastically different temps at the end of the run. That's just one example. Anyone that has a GM200 chip and it's being cooled by AIR can't avoid temps approaching 80C+ if the conditions are right (4k resolution, max settings, next gen app/bench, prolonged periods of use). I was getting 80C all the time when on AIR and pushing my GPUs hard.. this wasn't abnormal at all... I have VERY good cooling in my case, supplemental fans dedicated for my GPUs, a custom fan curve and my case side open when I recorded these temps below.

Since I have SLI, the TOP GPU does get a bit hotter (these are from the top card) so single GPUs folks out there will see temps a bit lower.

See this chart (right-click open in a new tab for hi-res)


This is exactly why water cooling GM200 is really where it is at. You will most likely be thermal limited (INCLUDING your VRMs) long before you are GPU limited. "BIG Maxwell" is just a huge die and due to pure physical size it just screams for a water block.

As long as you don't go over 85C you're fine (MAX is 91C but don't let it get over 85C) you won't melt anything HOWEVER you should look to improve cooling as much as you can..

Use a ghetto fan or find other ways to improve airflow and cooling. smile.gif
Seriously... do that ^

Got Ghetto? smile.gif



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Originally Posted by gabriel21st View Post

You can see a couple seconds of it a little over halfway through the log here (at 23:03:44). This was playing BF4

GPU-ZSensorLog.txt 526k .txt file

This is an interesting one and not very common. What it appears to be happening is that your power supply is unable to maintain reliable power delivery to the GPU. As soon as the power consumption increased to 103.3% the voltage delivery fluctuated probably because of the power supply momentarily couldn't handle what was being asked of it. Your boost clock immediately dropped (self-protection mechanism) where you can also see the power consumption dropped accordingly. Once the power draw was back in range of what the power supply could reliably provide everything stabilized again and your boost went back up.



Also, make sure you are not using any adapters/splitters on your PCI-e cables. You need direct/straight runs to the PSU.

The good news is that you may be able to use a workaround... overclocking your MEMORY actually increases the power draw. Put your memory back to stock, you might be able to get by like that.

Good luck!

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Originally Posted by Conroe81 View Post

Gigabyte support is inspecting my logs i wait and then update you when i'll know something.

Cool! Thanks keep us posted.



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Originally Posted by guest22 View Post

Hi Laithan,
Would you recommend using this BIOS on an EVGA 980Ti Classified on air? My memory seems stable at +630Mhz however throttling kicks in when the core is clocked much past +50Mhz or even just 50. E.g. It will boost to 1455Mhz, hit 66c then throttles to 1442 or lower. Would the increased P00 and P02 values in the voltage table stop this happening? I am basically trying to get the card to run flat out until it hits 75c+ as I do not believe 65c should cause the card to throttle.

Setting 1300mV and Kboost it reaches higher temperatures quicker, power limit can go upto 118% but again, around 66c the card throttles down and even drops to 1190Mhz if it gets to ~73c

A couple of other things, this BIOS shows 'Boost Limit 1455.5Mhz' whereas mine is greyed out - Will this be the top limit?

The version of this one is 84.00.36.00.92 and my current one is - 84.00.41.00.90 - any issue?

Thanks

Hi there.. These tweaks should work on a classy just as well as on a Gigabyte...the only question I have is about voltages because EVGA's cards are usually voltage limited until you use some special software that will address the voltage controller? Is that correct? We've got someone testing a classy BIOS right now but he's been busy.

You are welcome to give this a try yourself smile.gif. Just extract your current BIOS and compare to make sure this is compatible (not sure if EVGA has different revisions of the classy).
980Ticlassyunlockedandmodded.zip 152k .zip file
post #3799 of 7447
quick reply! thanks

Yes, there are different revisions. Mine appears to be rev2 84.00.41.00.90 instead of 84.00.36.00.92.

Will this be a problem?
post #3800 of 7447
Does anyone know what might cause my RGB LED (windforce logo and fans) functionality to stop functioning in Windows 10 Pro (x64)?

The card I have is a Gigabyte 980ti Xtreme. (6-GD model)

It's never worked ever. Just the logo cycles like it's stuck in "demo" mode. It's the normal color cycling pace.

Not much more I can think of that would cause it, I tried LED control in Geforce Experience and also the OCGURUII software which only shows "OSD" not the "LED" options. I can't control the rgb led's in a nutshell if none of this made sense to you. I think it's software but the latest version doesn't fix it. (1.96) Still get OSD on bottom left of the window. It never "connects" to the LEDs to allow control. I think it's software. It screams it.
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