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post #3821 of 7499
Hi,

I was using one of your older BIOS versions, and it was working really well. I got that one before you divided them into Air and H2O cooling. And with that BIOS I got up to ~1550+ core clock. I believe the default of your BIOS was 1291 which then goes up to 1455 or something similar. And even with the OC to 1550, it never got below that. Stable temps of up to 65 max or so.

In the meantime I got my EK liquid cooling set up and today I saw the BIOS so I decided to update it to the H20 G1 Gaming version.

Anyway, I am encountering a strange problem even though the new BIOS was flashed correctly (paying attention to DP and DD - I am using the DVI-I and the Display Port on top of it, right next to the HDMI so that is the DP version of the BIOS) + according to the cmd prompt everything worked fine.

After a restart, again I got to the normal 1291mhz core, and then set the Core Voltage in Afterburner to 100, and the Power Limit to 150 as I was doing previously. However, without any overclock at all, after a random amount of time, I get downclocked to ~1414mhz. The temps are again the same, between 60-65max. But I've noticed that I am getting a "Perfcap reason: SLI" in my GPU-Z monitoring.

I tried reflashing both of the cards, maybe I did a mistake with one of the cards making it run the older BIOS or something similar, however that didn't seem to be the issue.

Here is a screenshot - http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/16/02/28/zd9.png - The orange/brown area in the PerfCap Reason is tagged as SLI. And as you can see, at the start of the Unigine Heaven benchmark, the core clock was good - in this case it was ~1560mhz, with a 1900 memory clock (here I tried to overclock the card a bit higher to maybe offset the SLI downclock but it didn't work).

Any ideas?
post #3822 of 7499
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GeraltOfRivia View Post

Concerning memory OC (using RC2_F4 AIR bios)

- I just have to raise MHz in Afterburner and do tests?
- Or while raising MHz I should also raise some memory related voltage?

I tried just to see what could happen to raise them +100MHz, and let Heaven run 3 times, without noticing problem of sorts, nor temps raising.

- What could be considered a good and stable OC for memory with this bios mod? I mean more or less, I know every card is different..
- +50 MHz steps are good or too much?

thanks everybody! smile.gif

Geralt
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Originally Posted by GeraltOfRivia View Post

just a little "up" for this.. tongue.gifthumb.gif


Oops sry, missed it tongue.gif

The voltage adjustments we can make are for the GPU not the memory. We cannot access memory voltages.

Stock speed is 7Ghz, anyone getting 8Ghz should get a nice boost... (That's +500 in MSI AB) but some, including myself can get a higher speed but due to diminishing returns it isn't really worth it. If you can get 8Ghz (which everyone with a 980Ti SHOULD be able to get 8Ghz stable with either Hynix or Samsung ram different story for a 980).


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Originally Posted by schidddy View Post

hi guys, is it right that i can flash Bios if a monitor is connected via displayport or do i need to have a DVI Monitor to be connected in order to have sucessful biosflash without bricking it? biggrin.gif
i have a Gigagyte G1 Gaming 980ti and Maxwell Bios Editor is showing that i am currently using the dp Bios so my sense would tell me flashing the dp bios (h20 version)
i'm just not sure if flashing with a displayport monitor connected is ok because all these pictures shows dvi mon's connected and not telling anything about a displayport mon beeing connected.

Another question, are there any g1 gaming 980ti's with other mem then the hynix one?

cheers!

edit: will the card now be default volting at max volt or is it still using stock volts? Any thoughts on flashing this h20 bios on a high asic card? My gaming g1 980ti has an asic of 80% and is doing 1550 on stock voltage (1.199v) and i just want a bios with more voltage because im stuck at 1.261v on afterburner. What volts is this bios using when boosting at 1506mhz?

Hi there, yes there are cards with Samsung ram now (F10 BIOS). There is no advantage or disadvantage from what I know..

"DP" BIOS does not stand for display port. Instead of calling them DD and DP just pretend they are "BIOS 1" and "BIOS 2". Whatever connection that you used when you extracted the BIOS and confirmed the DP BIOS was active, just flash the "DP" BIOS while using that same exact configuration and you'll be flashing the DP slot.

Does that help?

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Originally Posted by Qwinn View Post

Hey Laithan,

I have a question. I know from reading your posts that the Core Voltage setting cannot be modified in the BIOS, that it must be done via software. Is the same true of the Power Limit % setting?

Reason I ask is, while I can't use your mods due to it blowing out my UPS (and prior experiments with both modded and unmodded BIOS's prior to the UPS didn't show me any gain from overvolting), I think I could get some advantage from a limited modification of the BIOS. Specifically, if possible, here's what I'd like to do to the stock F4 BIOS, as represented by the settings I set in Afterburner:

No change to voltage
Power Limit (%): 125
Core Clock (Mhz): +125 (results in 1455 Mhz)
Memory Clock (Mhz): +500 (results in 4005 Mhz)

And I'd like to set the default BIOS fan profile to this:




(The difference in noise level on my cards between 90% and 100% is drastic, so I just max it at 90%. If a third point is necessary, I'd add a point at run at 100% at 90c, that way if I'm not monitoring temps in a game and heat goes out of control for some reason, the ridiculously loud fan whine can alert me. So far though, I top out at 79c with this profile.)

This way I wouldn't have to run Afterburner at all (and could in fact uninstall it), which would be nice as it has been known to conflict with other software on occasion (though it's definitely better than EVGA Precision in my experience), and I wouldn't have the overhead that running a fan profile via software incurs. If I wanted to monitor stuff via an in-game OSD, I should be able to just use RivaTuner directly.

I'm willing to play around with Maxwell Tweaker myself to achieve this if it's possible, but I figured I'd ask about whether the Power Limit setting can be modified in the BIOS before getting too deep into it.

(If it were possible to also remove throttling' with a setup like this, so that I stayed at 1455Mhz instead of throttling to 1443 due to temps, I'd be up to try it, but it's not necessary. Would be nice to know if it's possible though).
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Originally Posted by Polska View Post

Wish I had found this thread sooner biggrin.gif.  Got mine up to 1490 so far stable with modded bios in op.  WIll see if I get anything more out of it, but that makes me happy.

Voltage absolutely CAN be modified in the BIOS for the Gigabyte cards. I was recently talking to someone with an EVGA Classified card where software is needed for that... but Gigabyte cards can use BIOS only, voltage is modified in the BIOS for all the MODs here. smile.gif

You should never use a UPS for a high performance computer. I don't know if you think you are doing yourself any favors but you are not you are just limiting the power input to your computer's power supply because the output of the UPS is limiting you. If you lose power, you can't continue to run a PC anyway you only have time to save and shut down. A good surge protector is all you need. wink.gif

There, your BIOS problem is solved. No charge wink.gif
post #3823 of 7499
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Originally Posted by stuste View Post


Anyway, I am encountering a strange problem even though the new BIOS was flashed correctly (paying attention to DP and DD - I am using the DVI-I and the Display Port on top of it, right next to the HDMI so that is the DP version of the BIOS) + according to the cmd prompt everything worked fine.

After a restart, again I got to the normal 1291mhz core, and then set the Core Voltage in Afterburner to 100, and the Power Limit to 150 as I was doing previously. However, without any overclock at all, after a random amount of time, I get downclocked to ~1414mhz. The temps are again the same, between 60-65max. But I've noticed that I am getting a "Perfcap reason: SLI" in my GPU-Z monitoring.

I tried reflashing both of the cards, maybe I did a mistake with one of the cards making it run the older BIOS or something similar, however that didn't seem to be the issue.

Here is a screenshot - http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/16/02/28/zd9.png - The orange/brown area in the PerfCap Reason is tagged as SLI. And as you can see, at the start of the Unigine Heaven benchmark, the core clock was good - in this case it was ~1560mhz, with a 1900 memory clock (here I tried to overclock the card a bit higher to maybe offset the SLI downclock but it didn't work).

Any ideas?

Hi there's just not enough detail there for me to know exactly, can you please re-run the test and record a log with GPU-z and attach here?

I should be able to figure it out with the logs.

PS. Are you using an SLI bridge?
post #3824 of 7499
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laithan View Post

Oops sry, missed it tongue.gif

The voltage adjustments we can make are for the GPU not the memory. We cannot access memory voltages.

Stock speed is 7Ghz, anyone getting 8Ghz should get a nice boost... (That's +500 in MSI AB) but some, including myself can get a higher speed but due to diminishing returns it isn't really worth it. If you can get 8Ghz (which everyone with a 980Ti SHOULD be able to get 8Ghz stable with either Hynix or Samsung ram different story for a 980).

Thanks a lot Laithan!! You are a guardian angel here!! biggrin.gifthumb.gif

I'll try to reach 8GHz then, just to see with my eyes how much can be worth overclocking memory. Bye mate! wink.gif
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Yes, I am using an SLI bridge. As i said in my previous post, everything was working fine with one of your older BIOS versions that I got from here. biggrin.gif

Anyway, something else I saw is that my VDDC is lower than yours (in the H2O G1 Gaming screenshots - Mine only went up to 1.2740). And I also noticed with this another PerfCap reason - Vrel, which I googled and saw that it has something to do with insufficient power, so most likely this VDDC issue? The thing that was weird was that I have the power set to 150% in MSI Afterburner, and it was more than enough even for additional overclocking on the previous BIOS, yet now is somehow less than needed? I am just guessing from what I read.


Anyway, here is my log file from GPU-Z.

And thank you again for the quick response. biggrin.gif GPUZ-Stuste.txt 53k .txt file
post #3826 of 7499
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Originally Posted by stuste View Post

Yes, I am using an SLI bridge. As i said in my previous post, everything was working fine with one of your older BIOS versions that I got from here. biggrin.gif

Anyway, something else I saw is that my VDDC is lower than yours (in the H2O G1 Gaming screenshots - Mine only went up to 1.2740). And I also noticed with this another PerfCap reason - Vrel, which I googled and saw that it has something to do with insufficient power, so most likely this VDDC issue? The thing that was weird was that I have the power set to 150% in MSI Afterburner, and it was more than enough even for additional overclocking on the previous BIOS, yet now is somehow less than needed? I am just guessing from what I read.


Anyway, here is my log file from GPU-Z.

And thank you again for the quick response. biggrin.gif GPUZ-Stuste.txt 53k .txt file

Hmm... something is definitely not right. You should be boosting to 1506Mhz by default with the H2O BIOS. I've never seen that.

You should just start over here to make sure nothing was missed.

* You have (2) 980Ti G1's with a water block?
* Is it an F3/F4, or an F10 BIOS (stock)?
* Are they BOTH F3/F4 or F10 or a mix?
* What size power supply do you have? Make/model?
* You said you had the power% slider maxxed.. What about the voltage?
* How did you determine that you needed to flash the DD or the DP BIOS?
* Did you extract your stock BIOS and save a copy? Does the STOCK and the one you flashed both show as the same "DD or DP"?
* Did you copy the BIOS settings over or did you flash the BIOS I posted directly?

We'll figure it out. thumb.gif

PS. 1.274v is the max software can show, that's normal
post #3827 of 7499
New here. I need some advice regarding my 2 G1 980ti. Originally i had 2 Tis with hynix memory. Due to 1 having defect with its Led, i had exchange it for a new 1 with samsung memory. I am doing Sli. Can i have advice on how should i place the cards? Which on top or below. Hynix has 71% asic and samsung has 68%+. Hynix has stock F3 bios and samsung on F10. Is F4 equivalent of F10? Should i flash F3 to F4? Thanks in advance
post #3828 of 7499
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Originally Posted by DeathAngel74 View Post

@guest22
The first slider is max voltage. The second slider is what usually controls the voltage slider in Afterburner. I think the third slider allows you to adjust voltage throttle?

These are the things im unsure on. I now have an unlocked bios (thank Laithan) but have no idea what the P00, P05 etc mean.

I am just trying to get my card so it doesnt throttle at 66-70c, instead have it only throttle at 80c. That way I can either run lower fan speeds or keep them as they are, run a slightly increased voltage and ruin at 1500Mhz boost without it throttling. Is it just these 3 sliders I need to change ad nothing else?

Has anyone done a page / info on what each slider actually does?

Thanks
post #3829 of 7499
thx laithan for your answer and also thanks for your effort in doing this and all the other people helping in in realising this projekt!!

btw dude u got an answer for me for the voltage question? i did an edit on that in my last post smile.gif is it right that with your h20 bios the g1 will use 1.293v but all programs will only show 1.274v beeing applied right?
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Subscribing! Will start modifying my own bios so
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Originally Posted by Owneth View Post

Does anyone know what might cause my RGB LED (windforce logo and fans) functionality to stop functioning in Windows 10 Pro (x64)?

The card I have is a Gigabyte 980ti Xtreme. (6-GD model)

It's never worked ever. Just the logo cycles like it's stuck in "demo" mode. It's the normal color cycling pace.

Not much more I can think of that would cause it, I tried LED control in Geforce Experience and also the OCGURUII software which only shows "OSD" not the "LED" options. I can't control the rgb led's in a nutshell if none of this made sense to you. I think it's software but the latest version doesn't fix it. (1.96) Still get OSD on bottom left of the window. It never "connects" to the LEDs to allow control. I think it's software. It screams it.

I've had this problem with my card. The only way that I got it fixed was to do a complete re-install of windows. Save yourself the headache and just re-install your OS.
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