Originally Posted by Minium
Laithan.... your CPU is not a gaming CPU at all.You´ll never get the same scores as somebody with an I7.Games/graphic benchmarks like less powerful cores.Your Xeon has 6(12) not so powerful cores (the number of them can theoratically compensate) but benchmarks (except cpu tests) cant take advantage of them.
I am pretty sure this is a misconception. I don't mean to be argumentative but as far as I know that's just myth and it was a good topic to ramble about so here goes!
Xeons and i7s are made from the same die also AFAIK (labeled after testing). The information about this is certainly spotty... many assumptions. So we must investigate
There's little difference between a XEON and an i7 IVY-e when comparing the equivalent models.
Note the stepping and advanced features... all identical.
Note the cache size, identical
I have HT off at the moment but everything that matters for performance and gaming are 100% identical.
I do get decent overclocks however I don't have the best example personally as my CPU needs a lot of voltage to exceed
4.6Ghz but there some other guys over in the Asus Rampage RIVBE thread that have some extremely impressive Xeons with lower voltage than mine. Silicon lottery even with a binned chip...
Comparison from ARK http://ark.intel.com/compare/77780,75780There are differences:
(1) Price..server class chips are usually more expensive (at launch)
(2) Desktop CPU has 100Mhz less base clock (irrelevant but part of the specs).
(3) Xeon supports 256GB ram (also ECC), i7 only 64GB.. the i7s are just limited by intel to justify the existence of Xeons...
(4) Xeon supports multi-sockets (not cores) however the 16xx Xeons do not.. 16xx Xeons are truly special
(5) Xeons are binned better. They are the "cream of the crop" CPUs because they are intended for 24x7 operation. They usually overclock better on average.
(6) I don't believe any Xeons have a functional iGPU (I think electrically disabled)
(7) This is the KEY point here... MOST Xeons are multipler LOCKED. This gives the clear advantage to the i7s that are unlocked. The 16xx series Xeons (all) are unlocked
and it's something not known by everyone.
Honestly what more can you ask for with a binned + unlocked CPU?
The Xeon /ˈziːɒn/ is a brand of x86 microprocessors designed, manufactured, and marketed by Intel Corporation, targeted at the non-consumer workstation, server, and embedded system markets. The primary advantages of the Xeon CPUs, when compared to the majority of Intel's desktop-grade consumer CPUs, are their multi-socket capabilities, higher core counts, larger cache memory, and support for ECC memory. A Xeon Phi co-processor, or co-processors, can be used alongside an existing Intel Xeon processor to provide increased/improved computing power, requiring an available PCI Express 3.0 x16 slot in x16, or x8 mode.Disadvantages that make Xeon processors unsuitable for most consumer-grade desktop PCs include lower clock rates at the same price point (since servers run more tasks in parallel than desktops, so core counts become more important than clock rates), absence of an integrated GPU, and non-existent support for overclocking. Despite such disadvantages, Xeon processors have always had popularity among desktop users (primarily gamers, and extreme users),
mainly due to higher core count potential, and lower price to performance ratio vs. the Core i7. Because most Intel Xeon CPUs lack an integrated GPU, systems built with such integrated GPU lacking processors require a discrete graphics card if a VDU output is desired.
This of course is null and void with CERTAIN Xeons that are unlocked.
E5-16xx, E5-16xxV2 and E5-16xxV3 are all Xeons that are UNLOCKED. They also do not support multiple sockets. You would have to use the E5-26xx (V2 and V3 also) for multi sockets and they are also locked processors.
The E5-16xx series was basically a gift from intel. Why would all the 16xx series be UNLOCKED and all the higher Xeons (ALL of them) are locked.
The higher end chip, that I honest wish I had (but it was too expensive) is the E5-1660V2. This one has a 15MB cache instead of the 12MB on mine, and yes also unlocked.
and in comparison, they repeated the same thing here with the top dog, the i7 4960X. In this case it's essentially identical to the E5-1660V2 (again we see the 100Mhz difference on the base clock speed)
All 4 processors mentioned above compared
Intel had bad info.. like saying there is a difference in advanced instruction sets... NOPE... the CPU-z screenshot shows they have identical instruction sets.
Originally Posted by Minium
I still need to throw my score out there:D
22. place on HWBOT HOF beating some 1080´s:D
That sir is super impressive!!
Can you also post your FFXIV score max preset?
You've got the same BIOS as me and running at the same clocks so it must be chipset/CPU related...
Here the thing I just don't "get" how CPU speed is not affecting this benchmark much. When I increased my CPU overclock my score slightly lowered. This was because (I think) because I was using a lower bus speed and lower memory speed when I bump to 4.8Ghz.. point is the raw CPU performance didn't seem to help. Perhaps it is chipset related and/or memory speed related?
What speed do you guys run your memory? Especially if using DDR4 there could be potential for the memory to play a role. I'm using DDR3. I'm going to run my memory at like 2133Mhz and repeat at the same speed GPU and CPU to see what happens when going from 2426Mhz to 2133Mhz memory... maybe this test is sensitive to memory speed?
The secret sauce.. this is the ONLY 8-core CPU for X79... 25MB cache!
.. Sold only in Mac PROs, they don't disappoint and hang with Haswell 8-cores.
Interesting info anywayEdited by Laithan - 5/2/17 at 9:03am