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The reaction may be extreme to a degree, but you asked for it and the conclusion (or explanation) in your last sentence doesn't seem to prove me wrong. The word of the day is "biased". Good. Let's leave it that way. I assume that you are a follower of this particular thread and therefore you must have noticed that there are some users who also faced problems using this motherboard.

I fully understand the cooling circumstances this board needs and I have studied the Asrock-site. I have never said, that I have received a faulty board, I think in my case, the board wouldn't have worked at all. Cooling and good airflow is very important to me, knowing that AMD is more or less known for being hot heads. Don't get me wrong, I love AMD and always will - the fact of the matter is this: all installed components worked PERFECTLY combined with my Asus Crosshair Formula-z.

I don't do overclocking and leave everything normal. There are users here who question the ability of the board to handle FX-CPU's. And I question that as well, at least when it comes to using the FX-8350, which was the case here. There's nothing biased here, that's a fact. The question that keeps me wondering: when I assembled this PC on that particular day, everything went fine. The UEFI is classy, I mentioned that and it was a breeze to work with. The next day, the board crossed the jordan. Faulty parts on it, yeah, could very well be the case. The thing that annoys me is that I installed everything and it appeared to be a smooth running system. We all know that electronic parts can be faulty, no doubt about it. What I posted here is nothing more than my personal experience with this board from Asrock - nothing more and nothing less.

What I've learned from you is the fact to be very picky with words and statements. You seem to be a guy who only accepts "opinions" regarding to hardware that are based on years of testing. Come on. That's just ridiculous. Reading some statements here about this board and Asrock in generel there is a demand for a debate. Sure, when everything works fine, the 970m pro3 is a hell of a board. Great layout, nice colour, easy-cheesy UEFI. Those points definitely go in Asrock's favour.

On the other hand there are known problems with this board, I mentioned a few and question the stability and quality here and then you come along and say hey, you're biased and harsh? A forum lives from debates and discussions. Should be nothing new. Have a nice day as well.
This type of post is exactly what I hoped to find in this thread, to be honest. Good discussion. I agree that the fact that your board initially worked is very fishy, and I'm also curious as to what caused it to cease to function. I also never said that the board didn't have problems, heck, I even agree with you that the board probably shouldn't be trusted with any of the 8 core CPU's, except maybe the new 95w ones. I'm eager to see what results you get from testing the board with the 8320e. I should also admit that I am also probably a bit biased towards the board- I ordered mine the day it came out and I have been using a non-overclocked FX-6300 on mine with rock solid stability. However, I do admit this board's faults. Although, I hope the board can handle the 8320e, as I'm looking to possibly upgrade to it if this board can handle it. Cheers, and make sure to fill us all in when you get that up and tested!
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This type of post is exactly what I hoped to find in this thread, to be honest. Good discussion. I agree that the fact that your board initially worked is very fishy, and I'm also curious as to what caused it to cease to function. I also never said that the board didn't have problems, heck, I even agree with you that the board probably shouldn't be trusted with any of the 8 core CPU's, except maybe the new 95w ones. I'm eager to see what results you get from testing the board with the 8320e. I should also admit that I am also probably a bit biased towards the board- I ordered mine the day it came out and I have been using a non-overclocked FX-6300 on mine with rock solid stability. However, I do admit this board's faults. Although, I hope the board can handle the 8320e, as I'm looking to possibly upgrade to it if this board can handle it. Cheers, and make sure to fill us all in when you get that up and tested!

Now you're talking. I like that. Let me assure you that I will definitely post the results of the board combined with the 8320e. To tell you the truth, it was the first part I ordered, when i RMA'd the board.

Not to sound biased here, but I question Asrock's way of cooling this board when using a 125W-TDP-CPU. There always remains the possibility that the board WILL fail with those CPU's and then it's possibly the user's fault, when things go downhill. Let me put it this way: when you got a case with decent airflow and efficient cooling and a motherboard can't handle the heat under normal use, then there's something fishy going on. That leaves a sour taste in my mouth and the proven or unproven fact (you decide) that the customer WILL get into troubles, no matter how desperate he is trying to avoid that. I also touched the board when it died, nothing hot in there. The inside of the case was really cool and fine.

I applaude Asrock for putting out a micro-atx board with the 970 chipset and give them kudos. Am3+ will be EOL sooner or later and only Asrock had the guts to bring something "new" to the table. Reading all those comments here, there is a huge demand for those form factors, especially when it comes to AM3+. That was the main reason to switch from my Graphite 600T from Corsair to some smaller case, because "downsizing" is the name of the game here. But to be honest, if you bring out something newish, then be sure to make your homework. I truly hope, that the replacement board will bring back the fun, as it is (like I said) a great board with a superb layout. To be honest, completing the Core V21 with that was the easiest build I have ever made.

Coming to an end here, I'd like to thank you bringing back this discussion to normal, so there's a way we can talk.thumb.gif
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Now you're talking. I like that. Let me assure you that I will definitely post the results of the board combined with the 8320e. To tell you the truth, it was the first part I ordered, when i RMA'd the board.

Not to sound biased here, but I question Asrock's way of cooling this board when using a 125W-TDP-CPU. There always remains the possibility that the board WILL fail with those CPU's and then it's possibly the user's fault, when things go downhill. Let me put it this way: when you got a case with decent airflow and efficient cooling and a motherboard can't handle the heat under normal use, then there's something fishy going on. That leaves a sour taste in my mouth and the proven or unproven fact (you decide) that the customer WILL get into troubles, no matter how desperate he is trying to avoid that. I also touched the board when it died, nothing hot in there. The inside of the case was really cool and fine.

I applaude Asrock for putting out a micro-atx board with the 970 chipset and give them kudos. Am3+ will be EOL sooner or later and only Asrock had the guts to bring something "new" to the table. Reading all those comments here, there is a huge demand for those form factors, especially when it comes to AM3+. That was the main reason to switch from my Graphite 600T from Corsair to some smaller case, because "downsizing" is the name of the game here. But to be honest, if you bring out something newish, then be sure to make your homework. I truly hope, that the replacement board will bring back the fun, as it is (like I said) a great board with a superb layout. To be honest, completing the Core V21 with that was the easiest build I have ever made.

Coming to an end here, I'd like to thank you bringing back this discussion to normal, so there's a way we can talk.thumb.gif
I agree with you on all points described. I also applaud ASRock for having the guts to push a board such as this one so late in the AM3+ socket's service cycle. I'd also like to thank you for helping bring the discussion back to normal thumb.gif
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As far as I'm concerned it absolutely is the new mATX sheriff in town, hands down:) I picked it up for $15 with my $120 8370e from microcenter and have been laughing ever since - this rig is a dollar for dollar monster. I've got a rock solid overclock with all eight cores at 4.4Ghz(1.3*v) 24/7. I've got a Raijentek Pallas keeping things cool. Nice big top down cooler does wonders for the excellently designed heatsinks on the mobo.

The ONLY thing I hate is that it doesn't support ASRock's extreme tuning utility. Fan control and adjustments outside of bios would be nice. Eff it though, this little board is SEXY and very solid. Tremendous performer outright, and hilariously powerful for the money. Buy this board!
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As far as I'm concerned it absolutely is the new mATX sheriff in town, hands down:) I picked it up for $15 with my $120 8370e from microcenter and have been laughing ever since - this rig is a dollar for dollar monster. I've got a rock solid overclock with all eight cores at 4.4Ghz(1.3*v) 24/7. I've got a Raijentek Pallas keeping things cool. Nice big top down cooler does wonders for the excellently designed heatsinks on the mobo.

The ONLY thing I hate is that it doesn't support ASRock's extreme tuning utility. Fan control and adjustments outside of bios would be nice. Eff it though, this little board is SEXY and very solid. Tremendous performer outright, and hilariously powerful for the money. Buy this board!

That's nice to read. The overall impressions of this particular board have been mediocre.
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As far as I'm concerned it absolutely is the new mATX sheriff in town, hands down:) I picked it up for $15 with my $120 8370e from microcenter and have been laughing ever since - this rig is a dollar for dollar monster. I've got a rock solid overclock with all eight cores at 4.4Ghz(1.3*v) 24/7. I've got a Raijentek Pallas keeping things cool. Nice big top down cooler does wonders for the excellently designed heatsinks on the mobo.

The ONLY thing I hate is that it doesn't support ASRock's extreme tuning utility. Fan control and adjustments outside of bios would be nice. Eff it though, this little board is SEXY and very solid. Tremendous performer outright, and hilariously powerful for the money. Buy this board!

That Raijintek cooler looks like a good match for this board and its pretty cheap too, I might need to pick one up.
     
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The Pallas compliments this motherboard very nicely by getting air across the passive coolers and at $30 I am unaware of anything that touches it for cooling power. That it is lower profile is just a bonus. I've been pleasantly surprised with the power of that slim fan - it's nearly silent with good case airflow. I have not found a way to get the fan to run at 100% manually in the bios which was why I griped about the lack of the asrock software support, so if you do get this combo and figure out how help a brother out. I'd like to know how loud it can get...
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The Pallas compliments this motherboard very nicely by getting air across the passive coolers and at $30 I am unaware of anything that touches it for cooling power. That it is lower profile is just a bonus. I've been pleasantly surprised with the power of that slim fan - it's nearly silent with good case airflow. I have not found a way to get the fan to run at 100% manually in the bios which was why I griped about the lack of the asrock software support, so if you do get this combo and figure out how help a brother out. I'd like to know how loud it can get...

I would pick up a Pallas, but I'm currently on the hunt for a Scythe Orochi. (super elusive unfortunately)
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The Pallas compliments this motherboard very nicely by getting air across the passive coolers and at $30 I am unaware of anything that touches it for cooling power. That it is lower profile is just a bonus. I've been pleasantly surprised with the power of that slim fan - it's nearly silent with good case airflow. I have not found a way to get the fan to run at 100% manually in the bios which was why I griped about the lack of the asrock software support, so if you do get this combo and figure out how help a brother out. I'd like to know how loud it can get...

Did you have any issues with RAM clearance, does it go over the RAM slots? My RAM is pretty tall.
     
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I am using hyperx fury whites. No clearance problems with mine.
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