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should i get the F2's, or the Noctua NF-P12 ?.
Noctua aren't that good on radiators. If you get F2-120, let us know if you have whine under 50% pwm duty cycle or if they resolved this issue.
post #612 of 800
Noctua has a cult following now. Granted they make good products and have excellent support, but their fans (and coolers) are not the end-all of all. Even in their designed application fields others like Thermalright, Nidec and now EK are equal or better .. and that's only fans. Coolers are another subject. tongue.gif
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Noctua has a cult following now. Granted they make good products and have excellent support, but their fans (and coolers) are not the end-all of all. Even in their designed application fields others like Thermalright, Nidec and now EK are equal or better .. and that's only fans. Coolers are another subject. tongue.gif

Hey, you forgot to mention Sanyo Denki in that group. tongue.gif


I love Sanyos, the 9S Silent Type S and the 9G thick 38mm lineup.


Here, I'm testing a 9G1212M1011 for noise (red arrow), adding the right amount of damping to keep it quiet.


Moving my two Vardar 140 ERs through the RMA process this week, hoping to find two gems in a stack of hay. biggrin.gif

Isn't that the way the saying goes? smile.gif


     
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https://youtu.be/cN5nRuyKUp8?t=5m55s thumb.gif

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I believe DazMode might have been testing with a defective Vardar, at least I'm pretty sure I read something along those lines.
That is the EXACT sound that I have on all my 8 120's (when standing on a table or mounted to a radiator). Four F2's and four F4's, all the way from ~600 rpm to max speed.
But near dead silent when I'm holding them in my hand.
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Hey, you forgot to mention Sanyo Denki in that group. tongue.gif


I love Sanyos, the 9S Silent Type S and the 9G thick 38mm lineup.


Here, I'm testing a 9G1212M1011 for noise (red arrow), adding the right amount of damping to keep it quiet.


Moving my two Vardar 140 ERs through the RMA process this week, hoping to find two gems in a stack of hay. biggrin.gif

Isn't that the way the saying goes? smile.gif


LOL, and many many other brands. My point ws Noctua are not the 'fan to end all fans' like some (the cultist) believe. As cultist go Noctua cult is as bad as sailboat CLC cult .. but at least the Noctua cust have a quality product. tongue.gif

Haven't use any Sanyo in years. Never used any in home, only server rooms. You can imagine how many were thrown out where upgrading was done. frown.gif Makes me sick to think now many went away for no good reason except new servers ahd new fans.
post #616 of 800
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LOL, and many many other brands. My point ws Noctua are not the 'fan to end all fans' like some (the cultist) believe. As cultist go Noctua cult is as bad as sailboat CLC cult .. but at least the Noctua cust have a quality product. tongue.gif

Haven't use any Sanyo in years. Never used any in home, only server rooms. You can imagine how many were thrown out where upgrading was done. frown.gif Makes me sick to think now many went away for no good reason except new servers ahd new fans.

Sanyo makes a few skus that are ideal for enthusiasts. Its unfortunate (for us) that their 140mmx140mm fans move directly to 38mm thickness, which is fine as unobstructed chassis air intake and exhaust but difficult for CaseLabs FlexBay rad/fan front grill assemblies which are basically a clam shell design which allow a maximum fan thickness of only 35mm.

Why is that important and why do I mention it today?

Well anyone that's been following the Vardar 140mm noise issues before, during, and after the recall and remember I was one of those affected, I decided on foregoing the multiple RMA process at PPCS and sought out a brand new type of fan to use with my EK CE 280 radiator and front intake.

I spent hours and days researching and spoke to those with the greatest knowledge base within the enthusiast industry producers, suppliers and reviewers, keeping in mind my current rig in progress is an inaudible one so high airflow efficiency at low rpm is critical imperative and paramount to the purpose and function of the build.


What is this 140mm mystery fan?


Well it's brand new launched January 2016, if that makes for a good solid clue, and its PWM powered. tongue.gif


Will pick up from PPCS at 10:30am today so give me time to test it and work up a duty cycle chart graph then I'll present some pics and thoughts here later today.


I thought it appropriate to add some sort of resolution to this/my ongoing Vardar noise issue.


NO, I have not dismissed all things EK, although am a bit discouraged by the recall which did nothing (for me) and the chirping, my water parts are still 80% EK, and still using (5) EK 120mm ER PWM fans and two Sanyo Denki fans yet adding two of these mystery fans into the mix.

Helps to stay positive in this hobby. smile.gif
     
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I'd say you were talking about 140mm eloops, but considering they are a bit older than january, i'm dying to know smile.gif
post #618 of 800
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I'd say you were talking about 140mm eloops, but considering they are a bit older than january, i'm dying to know smile.gif

This fan is "shrouded" in mystery? lachen.gif

That was a joke.

I've got the duty cycle graph all finished, now mounting them into a CaseLabs rad mount frame for sound testing.

Yes these fans only arrived in the US for sale January 7th, 2016, so fairly brand new to the market. thumb.gif

pics and graph in an hour.

One more clue, with state sales tax they are over $30 each, ouch, expensive, but mine is a small case so I only needed (2). Another advantage of smaller cases/builds, you can purchase top-shelf top quality parts, since you only need a small number of parts overall. Less fans fittings tubing etc.

Enough philosophy already, show us those fans. tongue.gif
Edited by iBruce - 2/2/16 at 11:52am
     
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post #619 of 800
The 140mm B14-PS PWM variant did not launch until January 2016, very good guessing. smile.gif


PPCS still lists them as a NEW product.


http://www.performance-pcs.com/noiseblocker-nb-eloop-b14-ps-bionic-fan-140x140x29mm.html





Edited by iBruce - 2/2/16 at 11:46am
     
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post #620 of 800
Hah, i got myself a 140mm 3 pin of 1400 RPM. What a mistake did i make. They move insane amounts of air over 800 RPM. Should've gotten PWM. thumb.gif
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