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post #721 of 801
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

I suggest Gentle Typoons
They are still being made and sold
The 1850 and 2150 rpm are availbe in PWM now too.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=gentle+typhoon

Phanteks PH-F120MP are good too.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=ph-f120mp&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Aph-f120mp

ML 120 maybe a great fan, like you said not much available about it. I will give them at least 6 months of use before I would even consider them. Look how good your Vardars looked in reviews. tongue.gif

PS: if you can retrieve our Vardars from the bin I'll pay shipping to get them from you. biggrin.gif

http://thermalbench.com/2016/07/12/corsair-ml120-pro-120-mm-fan/
post #722 of 801

Pssst, look a couple posts before yours. tongue.gif
post #723 of 801
No idea what your problem is but as I said in my previous post
" ML 120 maybe a great fan, like you said not much available about it. I will give them at least 6 months of use before I would even consider them. Look how good your Vardars looked in reviews
I'm still seeing Vardar owners complaining about their Vardar fans, but I don't see any GT owners complaining about their GT fans."biggrin.gif
Edited by doyll - 7/15/16 at 6:34am
post #724 of 801
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

No idea what your problem is but as I said in my previous post
"[ML 120 maybe a great fan, like you said not much available about it. I will give them at least 6 months of use before I would even consider them. Look how good your Vardars looked in reviews
I'm still seeing Vardar owners complaining about their Vardar fans, but I don't see any GT owners complaining about their GT fans."biggrin.gif

Mine are still good, as were some of his. The reviews are not the issue, and the product is great. QC is the issue.
post #725 of 801
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Originally Posted by geggeg View Post

Mine are still good, as were some of his. The reviews are not the issue, and the product is great. QC is the issue.
Sorry, I was in no way trying to indicate your reviews are not top notch. thumb.gif
But for the product to be great it must give all users consistently good results.
Sadly Vardar had and may still be having some quality control issues and until these are resolved the Vardar fans affected by these problems are not great fans or great products.

It is only fair to point out at least some of yours were tester's samples and if I remember correctly some were pre-release samples.

Quality control issues seem to be across all Vardar models. I'm not about to put my hard earned money down and gambl on the fan "roulette wheel" and hope I get lucky and receive fans with no problems.
Edited by doyll - 7/15/16 at 6:42am
post #726 of 801
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

Sorry, I was in no way trying to indicate your reviews are not top notch. thumb.gif
But for the product to be great it must give all users consistently good results.
Sadly Vardar had and may still be having some quality control issues and until these are resolved the Vardar fans affected by these problems are not great fans or great products.

It is only fair to point out at least some of yours were tester's samples and if I remember correctly some were pre-release samples.

Quality control issues seem to be across all Vardar models. I'm not about to put my hard earned money down and gambl on the fan "roulette wheel" and hope I get lucky and receive fans with no problems.

Fair enough, yeah.

One of my review samples were pre-release, and marked as such. Another was a first production sample and it showed inconsistency that was mentioned (FF5-120). The rest were random retail units. I agree that these issues are hampering the product for sure, and sooner they resolve the better.
post #727 of 801
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

I'm not about to put my hard earned money down and gambl on the fan "roulette wheel" and hope I get lucky and receive fans with no problems.

I hope for EK that they get the Vardar QC worked out sooner than later, it doesn't really fit into their otherwise solid product line.

A bad batch is acceptable, like my eloops which don't report their RPM properly. But the Vardar issues seem to be draging on too long now.
post #728 of 801
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Originally Posted by geggeg View Post

Fair enough, yeah.

One of my review samples were pre-release, and marked as such. Another was a first production sample and it showed inconsistency that was mentioned (FF5-120). The rest were random retail units. I agree that these issues are hampering the product for sure, and sooner they resolve the better.
To be fair, I have seen a couple of GT complaints over the years. They seem to be from abusive handling in transit, but can't be sure.
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Originally Posted by Gilles3000 View Post

I hope for EK that they get the Vardar QC worked out sooner than later, it doesn't really fit into their otherwise solid product line.

A bad batch is acceptable, like my eloops which don't report their RPM properly. But the Vardar issues seem to be draging on too long now.

The Vardar QC issue may be already resolved. It's hard to say. We get these guys (or girls) who throw temper tantrums and toss their fans in the trash every once in awhile, but I don't put much credibility it these kinds of reports. Problem is we know about a problem batch over night. It can easily take 5-8 months for all of them to sift their way out of stock and use. This is only compounded if company does not require all of defective batch be returned, and that adds more expense to an already expensive loss of profit and replacement. So normally the tell their retailers to junk them. Most do, but there are always a few that think they can skim a little extra by selling them anyway, or the get grabbed out of dumpster and sold on black market. Or you have the person who bought 20x fans for his new build at Xmas and is just now opening their boxes and doing the build. These kinds of deals drag the problem out even longer.
post #729 of 801
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Originally Posted by Stalefish View Post

Any recommendations for other fans?

Mr Stalefish

I'm in the middle of gathering components for a build. My approach is similar: stupid amount of rad space so I can run lots of fans at low speed and achieve a near silent (if not actually silent) rig. I was not happy about the anecdotal stories about the Vardars having issues with secondary noises, especially when being run at low speeds. I ended up getting Fractal Design's Venturi HP-12's. They seem to get the nod from many silent computing enthusiasts. Their rubber corner design should obviate the need for gaskets and other additional sound damping. They are a touch more expensive (than the EK's), but sound as though they might be a match for (or not far behind) the Vardars and Gentle Typhoons performance-wise.

The only wrinkle to my telling you this though is that my build is not complete and said Venturis haven't yet made a single rotation in my system. But still, I thought I'd throw them into the mix for your consideration.
Edited by meson1 - 7/15/16 at 8:37am
post #730 of 801
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Originally Posted by meson1 View Post

Mr Stalefish

I'm in the middle of gathering components for a build. My approach is similar: stupid amount of rad space so I can run lots of fans at low speed and achieve a near silent (if not actually silent) rig. I was not happy about the anecdotal stories about the Vardars having issues with secondary noises, especially when being run at low speeds. I ended up getting Fractal Design's Venturi HP-12's. They seem to get the nod from many silent computing enthusiasts. Their rubber corner design should obviate the need for gaskets and other additional sound damping. They are a touch more expensive (than the EK's), but sound as though they might be a match for (or not far behind) the Vardars and Gentle Typhoons performance-wise.

The only wrinkle to my telling you this though is that my build is not complete and said Venturis haven't yet made a single rotation in my system. But still, I thought I'd throw them into the mix for your consideration.

Thanks for the info! I have read similar things about the venturis.

Thing is that when u have more radiators then you need, it dosnt really mather what fans your a using when you are going for low rpm fan with low fpi rad.
My mistake was to use the EK PE 360 when i should have used the slim 360 radiators.

So now i need to find fans that have the most static pressure @ ~1000 rpm tongue.gif

But still.. whit my setup now my 1.35v oc cpu and 1.25v 980 TI @ 1550 mhz is 53c for gpu and 65c for cpu when gaming for hours and hours tongue.gif
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