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A lot of the reason why Nvidia is charging these premiums for flagship gpu's is because Amd continues to drag their feet on the PC market front. Maybe Amd will finally fold when they hold 5% of the market. Then we will have a $2k TItan.

All of this talk of AMD at risk to go out of business is funny. There are only TWO competitors in the graphics card market. Nvidia is like Mcdonalds. Mcdonalds sells more (at least as of a few years ago) than ALL other fast food combined...yet there is still room for plenty of companies to stay in business. Now I know it's not the food market, but AMD is the ONLY other one. I don't think there will only be Nvidia.
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Keplar cards are still getting support but the problem for keplar cards is they tend to suck for games that use global illumination. The cards are missing some direct x 11 features that make the card bad at it. With maxwell cards good at global illumination now, Nvidia has more incentive for the features to be used in gameworks titles. However this poorly reflect on keplar cards. With most games featuring it now because AMD wants it and now Nvidia wanting it, keplar looks bad in new game reviews.

Generally legacy support is way better with Nvidia compared to AMD. Nvidia dropped support of pre fermi cards in 2014. AMD dropped support of pre 5000 series cards in 2012. These cards are both the same generation.
Why not 800?

Because AMD is not competing. They are likely supply limited and thus they are going to charge more when the competition isn't around. It just sound business.

As for profits back then, R and D was much cheaper. 132 millon a quarter cheaper. If Nvidia kept the same costs and added todays R and D expense, they would be making nothing.

BTW, 200 million of nvidia's net profit comes from an Intel settlement of 1.5 billion because intel blocked Nvidia from making chipsets anymore. So that 500 million is really 300, atleast from the sales of their products. So something like 75 million on average a quarter is not really that high for more than a billion in revenue a quarter company.

Nvidia currently spends 33% of their revenue on R and D which is just engineers. This percentage is the highest in the world for any semiconductor company. Cutting costs would involve firing engineers and slowing down innovation. I respect companies that spend so much on R and D.

I am not going to spend 1000 dollars on a videocard, but I am not going to scream at the early adopters that make high spending on R and D possible. These early adopters are what makes early releases of cards, even if they have bad yields possible. Take away these big spenders and I think you make the market where medium sized chips like gm204 or Hawaii are the only thing sensible for a company to make for gamers.

Yes you do need much R & D to learn how to gimp a technology, and milk it for all it's worth...while holding back progress while they profit. I can see them now sitting back with their un gimped cards...playing far cry at 800 fps...laughing at all of us. tongue.gif
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Single R9 390x should outperform this card for a fraction less than the Titan. We'll see what happens.
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Single R9 390x should outperform this card for a fraction less than the Titan. We'll see what happens.

Everytime somebody says that i'm sure buyers remorse sets in for another titan x owner frown.gif Again another shining example of impartiality brought to you by the armchair computer enthusiast organisation
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If the price to performance is not a concern, then no one who buys/ bought the Titan X should have any buyer's remorse.
As someone mentioned earlier, I am happy to have the early adopters fund the next phase of better cards through their contribution.... smile.gif
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AMD offer the opportunity to Nvidia to launch a Titan series because they're always late to the party since 2 years and do not have products to compete.
With a strong AMD, Titan won't exist. Period.

So you are telling me HD 5870 should have been 1K and HD 7970 should have also been 1K because they came first. Nvidia is pricing Titan 1K because people are willing to pay for it. You cant stop people from wanting the fastest GPU. Only OG Titan was something. Titan Black and Z where pointless. 2 month of sales is enough for Titan to be justified by Nvidia.
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All of this talk of AMD at risk to go out of business is funny. There are only TWO competitors in the graphics card market. Nvidia is like Mcdonalds. Mcdonalds sells more (at least as of a few years ago) than ALL other fast food combined...yet there is still room for plenty of companies to stay in business. Now I know it's not the food market, but AMD is the ONLY other one. I don't think there will only be Nvidia.

They are bleeding money, their stock performance is abysmal, and revenue is continuing to decline post next-gen console launch. It's not so much funny as it is a very real possibility.
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So you are telling me HD 5870 should have been 1K and HD 7970 should have also been 1K because they came first. Nvidia is pricing Titan 1K because people are willing to pay for it. You cant stop people from wanting the fastest GPU. Only OG Titan was something. Titan Black and Z where pointless. 2 month of sales is enough for Titan to be justified by Nvidia.

No, I think he is saying as long as the early adopters are subsidizing a a certain product, what does he care...
It's not like its his, yours, or my money.... Lol
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No, I think he is saying as long as the early adopters are subsidizing a a certain product, what does he care...
It's not like its his, yours, or my money.... Lol

But Titan is a performance bar and everything falls under but its a very high bar.
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So you are telling me HD 5870 should have been 1K and HD 7970 should have also been 1K because they came first. Nvidia is pricing Titan 1K because people are willing to pay for it. You cant stop people from wanting the fastest GPU. Only OG Titan was something. Titan Black and Z where pointless. 2 month of sales is enough for Titan to be justified by Nvidia.

Titan Black and Titan-Z didn't sold well compared to the first Titan because AMD got something to offer and it was quite a fail for nVidia (not much communication on 'em).
Deniying AMD responsability in Titan arrival is when you don't want to face the reality.
AMD is seriously lagging and suffer a lot, they got only 24% market share right now and just show that performance/price only method is not working at all.
AMD definitly need to offer better products ans stop rebranding.
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