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Wow, just got the local pricing. $2000. I might have been able to stretch to $1500 if the performance was good enough but no way I'm joining the party at that price frown.gif

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A general 980 price reduction would have been a welcome announcement today, going to 980 and skipping 390x + titanX + 980ti while holding out for pascal sounds like a plan for 1440p gaming.
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I'm not even going to ask which country, christ, 2 grand??

You can get one off Nvidia website (Geforce.com) for $999 US + shipping.

I think that would save a few hundred but still out of my price range sadly. Thanks though.
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Close - New Zealand. We get hit with exchange rate, shipping, 15% tax and whatever mark up the retailer puts on. I really thought these would hit about $1500-1700 here but I was way off (or maybe just wishful thinking smile.gif ).

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My kiwi friend literally takes shopping trips to America to buy his computer hardware tongue.gif.
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A general 980 price reduction would have been a welcome announcement today, going to 980 and skipping 390x + titanX + 980ti while holding out for pascal sounds like a plan for 1440p gaming.

Yup, 980 will handle it just fine. The other day I was testing a single 980 (1522MHz) on a (Portrait) 1440p surround with no AA. Handled 95% percent of games fine, with some tweaking in the Graphics options menu, never below Medium. A single 1440p monitor will be a breeze for a 980.
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HBM is supposed to cut power up, but I don't know how much power GDDR5 uses on the 290X. 30% of board power seems like a lot, but assuming that's correct you are looking at 30% (?) more cores as well, so you are back to even there. Really going to depend on what kind of efficiency gains they can get from GCN 1.3. My guess is it'll be Titan performance at slightly above Titan power.

In both cases, though, it's pretty impressive efficiency gains for the same node.

Some folks forget that HBM and the stacked DRAM on Pascal can also drastically increase temperatures since they're mounted directly next to the core package on an interposer, sharing space with the rest of the packaging substrate.

Not only does this mean limited options for AIBs in terms of available memory capacities but on a 28nm manufacturing process it may necessitate some exotic and expensive cooling solutions.

Also remember that 3D memory isn't a silver bullet if the underlying architecture isn't up to the task of saturating its massive bandwidth potential.
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Yup, 980 will handle it just fine. The other day I was testing a single 980 (1522MHz) on a (Portrait) 1440p surround with no AA. Handled 95% percent of games fine, with some tweaking in the Graphics options menu, never below Medium. A single 1440p monitor will be a breeze for a 980.

I read both the anand and guru3d reviews, the hairdryer turns me off the most, still.

The price performance curve is way off for 2014-2015, I have a 780 classy running at 1400 and it's basically the 980 performance level, which leaves me in a boring spot as far as wanting to upgrade gpu.
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Some folks forget that HBM and the stacked DRAM on Pascal can also drastically increase temperatures since they're mounted directly next to the core package on an interposer, sharing space with the rest of the packaging substrate.

Not only does this mean limited options for AIBs in terms of available memory capacities but on a 28nm manufacturing process it may necessitate some exotic and expensive cooling solutions.

Also remember that 3D memory isn't a silver bullet if the underlying architecture isn't up to the task of saturating its massive bandwidth potential.

Definitely something to consider that I didn't think about.

I just wonder how much they will contribute to heat considering there are fewer stacks vs ram ic's on the board, that may or may not also use less power and thus create less heat in the first place despite being more localized. It will also depend on how the coolers themselves are designed; will they isolate contact with the core, or try to encompass everything in a singular heatplate now that the vram is so close to the actual die?
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I read both the anand and guru3d reviews, the hairdryer turns me off the most, still.

The price performance curve is way off for 2014-2015, I have a 780 classy running at 1400 and it's basically the 980 performance level, which leaves me in a boring spot as far as wanting to upgrade gpu.

Same boat with my Titan Black. Maxwell has been a flaming piece of dog feces wrapped in a brown paper bag at my doorstep, an OC'd Titan Black is just as good, potentially better than the 980, lets not mention the 970, the 960 isn't a flagship product and the Titan X is so massively overpriced for the performance gain I just can't justify buying the card.

The fact that its so over priced without even having DP helps the resale value of my Titan Black though. Keep dropping the ball Nvidia, that way I can sell my Titan Black for a grand and switch to AMD becasue that's whats gonna happen if pascal turns out to be a massive flop like maxwell is proving to be (the 970 issue did a lot to shake my turst in Nvidia so its definitely a factor in what may be me changing brands).
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Definitely something to consider that I didn't think about.

I just wonder how much they will contribute to heat considering there are fewer stacks vs ram ic's on the board, that may or may not also use less power and thus create less heat in the first place despite being more localized. It will also depend on how the coolers themselves are designed; will they isolate contact with the core, or try to encompass everything in a singular heatplate now that the vram is so close to the actual die?

Think of it this way. Gen2 HBM still requires 1.2V despite needing something like 45% less power than GDDR5. It puts out heat and it won't come with a free pass. I mean sure you can dissipate the heat with a single transfer plate but that doesn't really help things since proximity could lead to increased point temps.

IMO, HBM is perfect for more efficient SoC designs and upcoming GPUs but a 28nm part? I'm not so sure but I'll be happy to be proven wrong.
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