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25% and 34%
Edited by Dragonsyph - 3/19/15 at 10:56am
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Yeah... the only way I can see it happening is if the 390X turns out to be significantly faster (say, 15%+) and Nvidia has no other way to counter it.

Personally, I wouldn't hold my breath. I think it's pretty clear what Nvidia wants the Titan line to be - their PCB, their voltages, their cooler, their price, and now perhaps even their own direct sale.

Definitely seems to be that way given the past Titans.

But selling direct only? That's just beyond stupid. The longer one has to wait to get these cards, the less attractive that $1000 tag becomes.
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Welp, looks like I'll be holding on to my Titan Black's for at least another 6-months. This is rather underwhelming, especially with regards to build quality (heat, noise, coilwhine, etc).

Your Titan Blacks are relevant for far longer than 6 months, but to say that the Titan X is underwhelming is fairly inaccurate, at least for those of us who them. The TDP of the Titan X is fine, and the heat is an issue if trying to go for more than a mild OC. These things will shine with a custom bios/voltage unlock + in a custom loop. I've had zero coil whine on both of my cards.

2x Titan Xs vs 2x Titan Blacks, and my 5960X had a much lower boost clock due to not being under a custom loop (spoiler - the Blacks get absolutely destroyed):

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/4345537/fs/3245773
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25% and 34%

Hmm? What numbers are you using. I'm using average FPS.

37.7 vs 47.2 = 22.37% difference
51.7 vs 69.6 = 29.51% difference

So I guess my brain math above was a bit low, but how'd you get 25%/34%?

I got X7579 in 3dmark11 extreme which seems about right.
Edited by Murlocke - 3/19/15 at 11:07am
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We are seeing the limits of staying on the same 28nm node, nothing more. The OG Titan was the first big die chip from Nvidia on 28nm and it was massively impressive compared to GF110. Now GM200 comes along and it has a nice architectural improvement over GK110 but still on the same node. Result? Performance is better for sure, but certainly not as impactful as the original Titan was. At least that's how I see it. I still don't see any reason to jump from OG Titans right now with the Titan X cost factored in. The increase of 30-40% would be nice but not worth so much $$$ especially when AMD may be dropping a product that is faster and cheaper in just a couple months...
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Originally Posted by Murlocke View Post

Oh did I do my math wrong? I went by average fps. redface.gif

I got X7579 in 3dmark11 extreme which seems about right.

Uniengine doesn't seem to like Maxwell as much as Kepler either. I would not worry about Valley or Heaven tbh.

Do you have the newest 3dMark?
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

We are seeing the limits of staying on the same 28nm node, nothing more. The OG Titan was the first big die chip from Nvidia on 28nm and it was massively impressive compared to GF110. Now GM200 comes along and it has a nice architectural improvement over GK110 but still on the same node. Result? Performance is better for sure, but certainly not as impactful as the original Titan was. At least that's how I see it. I still don't see any reason to jump from OG Titans right now with the Titan X cost factored in. The increase of 30-40% would be nice but not worth so much $$$ especially when AMD may be dropping a product that is faster and cheaper in just a couple months...

GF100 to GK110 was over 100% faster in some cases, but wasn't it like 2 years between the chips though? GTX580 > Titan
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

We are seeing the limits of staying on the same 28nm node, nothing more. The OG Titan was the first big die chip from Nvidia on 28nm and it was massively impressive compared to GF110. Now GM200 comes along and it has a nice architectural improvement over GK110 but still on the same node. Result? Performance is better for sure, but certainly not as impactful as the original Titan was. At least that's how I see it. I still don't see any reason to jump from OG Titans right now with the Titan X cost factored in. The increase of 30-40% would be nice but not worth so much $$$ especially when AMD may be dropping a product that is faster and cheaper in just a couple months...
C'mon, stop frontin', you know you want one, or, two..smile.gif
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Uniengine doesn't seem to like Maxwell as much as Kepler either. I would not worry about Valley or Heaven tbh.

Do you have the newest 3dMark?

I got X7579 in 3dmark11 extreme, which is a 28% difference over my 780Ti score (5692) I ran earlier today. I have the newest 3dMark but it's not paid so takes forever to run it. Stupid demo things. rolleyes.gif

I'll run more tests.
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Here's Shadow of Mordor. 30.22% improvement, but a whopping 101.93% improvement to min frames.



However, my display driver just randomly crashed while typing this.. so either somethings not stable (I'm at stock), or the drivers are a bit flaky.
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Here's Shadow of Mordor. 30.22% improvement, but a whopping 101.93% improvement to min frames.



However, my display driver just randomly crashed while typing this.. so either somethings not stable (I'm at stock), or the drivers are a bit flaky.

GTX 780 Ti is the best Kepler GPU. I have not seen test using GTX Titan Black against GTX Titan X. I think 25-30% is about right. GTX 780 Ti was $699 card so you paid $300 for 30% performance and you dont have to worry about 3GB vRAM limit.
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