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No review that I am aware of overclocked the Titan X to 1126Mhz with a 1216Mhz boost clock in order to compare the two architectures clock for clock to see if there are any IPC gains or losses.......


So yes you are correct all the reviews showed about a 35% gain only. But 1004Mhz is 12% lower than 1126Mhz, so you have to add that back into the equation. Then you would have a 47% difference........

Again

Anandtech has the Titan X boosting to 1215 STOCK. So TitanX cards will have a max boost around 1150-1250mhz. Stock

While Stock 980 have a Max boost around 1200-1300mhz. (even higher on some of the non ref cards)

So the reviews put the card around 50mhz apart.


The Boost Clocks Nvidia lists on the spec sheet, is not MAX BOOST CLOCKS. This goes for every Kepler card too. This is not new news, this is how Kepler and Maxwell work.
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No review that I am aware of overclocked the Titan X to 1126Mhz with a 1216Mhz boost clock in order to compare the two architectures clock for clock to see if there are any IPC gains or losses.......


So yes you are correct all the reviews showed about a 35% gain only. But 1004Mhz is 12% lower than 1126Mhz, so you have to add that back into the equation. Then you would have a 47% difference........

When you add it back into the equation, you get an expected performance for the Titan X, relative to the GTX 980, of:

1.5 * 1002 / 1126 = 133.4% of the 980's performance.

And reviews show it pretty much smack on at 30-35% faster overall, which is EXACTLY what we expect. So yes, at equivalent clock speeds, the Titan X IS 50% faster.
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Guys anyone seen reviews where they tested Titan X SLI power consumption I am wondering If I overclock them and 5820k will 860 watts be enough to efficiently work with them or should I upgrade the PSU too. I have 3570k now.
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For being 50 perfect faster it should be $750 not 1000
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They had to overclock the Titan X to 1550mhz just to get 45-50% increase over a STOCK 980.

Take a 980 @ 1500mhz and compare it to the Titan X at 1500mhz. It is not 50% tongue.gif

I have a feeling bad math was a play or their initial impressions are off 1080p.

In the eurogamer, a lesser overclock around 1400 led to about a 56% increase over stock at 4k. A constant 1550 with 8.2ghz memory should be about 1.65-1.70times the performance of a stock 980.

Considering reviews like anandtech show temps being around 83 - 85, I wouldn't count on the maxboost being a held frequency. 84, is the throttling point and your getting a decent downclock from that which are closer to the avg clocks.
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I have a feeling bad math was a play or their initial impressions are off 1080p.

In the eurogamer, a lesser overclock around 1400 led to about a 56% increase over stock at 4k. A constant 1550 with 8.2ghz memory should be about 1.65-1.70times the performance of a stock 980.

4k bottlenecks the 980, therefor you will see more gains.


Hell you can see massive gains comparing a gtx770 2gb vs 4gb, when going over 2gb of VARM. When hit a limitation, it will only slow the card down.


The TitanX can easily be more than 50% in those cases. But I'm not talking about a single case, I'm talking about an avg.
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For being 50 perfect faster it should be $750 not 1000

ah yes, the novelty of 300% more vram.
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Lol, why are people still trying to compare the Titan X as a value proposition card in relation to the 980? Stahp. The 980 is obviously, hands down, the better performance-per-dollar card. Period. And even then, a lot of people could argue that in relation to the 970 (pre-VRAM-gate, and maybe even after,) that $200 for an additional 15-20% performance wasn't worth the cost to the $350 GTX 970. And yet, the Titan X gets more flak for applying essentially the same logic. rolleyes.gif

Those of us paying for Titan Xs know there's a premium attached to them, and we're not likely concerned strictly with performance-per-dollar. Nvidia hasn't shied away from that notion - that's exactly how they market this card. There's more commentary about how people spend their money or the value of this card as opposed to anything else constructive in this thread. I think most of us believe that if AMD had been able to release the 390X by now, and actually had hard numbers for everyone, that we wouldn't be seeing the Titan X priced at where it's at necessarily. But since there's no competition at the moment, and you're alone at the top in terms of flagship performance + prestige of the name...why not charge that premium?

Get the card if you personally feel it's worth the investment + have a use for it/them, but stop trying to compare a flagship-premium card to everything else below it. Performance-per-dollar was never the logic behind the Titan X.
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The Titan X is not the consumer card. A Titan will never sell below $1000


The Consumer version is not out yet, probably will be called the 980ti or something. And that will be the card that has the value, but will probably only pack 6GB of VRAM. Which is more than enough for most everyone.


The Question is, when will that card release. Wait too long, and they might loose the potential sales.
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The Titan X is not the consumer card. A Titan will never sell below $1000


The Consumer version is not out yet, probably will be called the 980ti or something. And that will be the card that has the value, but will probably only pack 6GB of VRAM. Which is more than enough for most everyone.


The Question is, when will that card release. Wait too long, and they might loose the potential sales.

Nvidia seems overly confident (for better or worse) that AMD cannot beat the Titan X with the 390X by any significant margin, and they're hedging their bets that it will have relatively similar performance (or even lower) instead. We don't know if that's a smart or stupid tactic yet. This is why they released the Titan X early...to put pressure on AMD, and possibly steal away 390X sales before they happen, and they know that even if they get the top spot for even a short amount of time that they can reap huge profits by putting a price premium on the Titan X for as long as it lasts. Sound business strategy it seems, but it could very well backfire, as now the ball is solely in AMD's court, and they know what numbers they have to beat to regain the performance crown. For us consumers, this is a good thing.

That said, if the 390X is only similar in performance to the Titan X when it releases...you can bet Nvidia will come out swinging with a 6GB 980Ti, close to the performance of both a Titan X and 390X, for hundreds less.

Purely assumptions on my part...but if it plays out that way, it could be bad for AMD. We really, really need them to take it to Nvidia with the 390X. We can only benefit here. thumb.gif
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EK-XTOP w/ Dual D5 Pumps, EK-X3 250 Res, EK-D5 ... 2x Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 480mm Rads (1x top mo... 2x Alphacool NexXxos UT60 240mm Rads (1x front ... PrimoChill Rigid Acrylic tubing (White), Advanc... 
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2x EK-FC Titan X Pascal Nickel GPU Blocks w/ EK... 2x EK-RAM Monarch X4 Nickel/Acetal CSQ RAM Bloc... Windows 10 Pro, 64-bit 1x Acer Predator X34 @ 3440x1440p 34" IPS + 100... 
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Logitech G810 Orion Spectrum EVGA SuperNova P2 1600W Platinum CaseLabs SMA8 (Gunmetal Exterior/Black Interior... Logitech G502 Proteus Core 
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Logitech G440 Audioengine HD6 w/ S8 Subwoofer Campfire Audio Vega IEMs Schiit Magni 2 Uber Amp 
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Schiit Modi 2 Uber DAC NZXT Sentry Mesh Fan Controller NZXT HUE RGB LED Controller 
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