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is that your opinion this month?

or is it the stance you take when this titan doesn't have it?




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headscratch.gif the original Titan was more than twice as fast as the GTX 580. it didn't have another single gpu card in it's performance realm for 6 months and not from the competition for almost a year. Titan X may be slower than a cheaper AMD card that can launch within two months of it. I guess what I'm saying is that it's too early to conclude if this is indeeed a better deal than the first Titan. I agree it's certainly not garbage.

This card is roughly twice as fast as a 780Ti when overclocked, and roughly twice as fast a 780 even when not overclocked. The 680 was out when Titan released, so that's a pretty fair comparison if you want to compare it to the 580. I upgraded from a 680 to Titan and it definitely didn't seem as big as the 980 > Titan X gap reviews are claiming.

I'm not waiting ~2 months on a maybe. 780 Ti isn't enough for me anymore, I want to upgrade to keep maxing games at my native. In two months, there will be another GPU "right around the corner" that "may or may not" beat either card. It's a never ending cycle. tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by MapRef41N93W View Post

You mean a driver that doesn't have Crossfire disabled. That only took 5 months to get released. That's not really improving performance, just putting it to what it should be.

Yeah, AMD lacks on getting drivers optimized for new titles. I always felt like by the time it was optimized, I beat the game months ago and could care less anymore.
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is that your opinion this month?

or is it the stance you take when this titan doesn't have it?

You realize most compute isn't double precision. Nice to see you following me around threads though thumb.gif
 
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For me, since I am a veteran of xfire (xfire 5870s till I got 7950s) the 295x2 is a better deal at 700. Titan X is a good card just disappointing price. Now I'm looking at AMD for xfire 390s or 380x.

Why even wait for the new AMD cards when you said the 295x2 is a better deal? It'll be the same with AMD's cards as well as this Titan X. So long as you can stand dual cards that is. I liked my GTX 690 but SLI..never again.
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Originally Posted by Murlocke View Post

This card is a much better deal than the original Titan, which sold really well. It's a great card overall. You can't expect the best price:performance ratio when we have options like SLI/CF.

This card is almost equal to stock 2x 780Ti (at 100% scaling which is rare) when overclocked. It does so at nearly 2x less overall wattage and heat output. Sure it's no where as efficient as a 980, but that's to be expected. If you aren't impressed by that, then nothing can impress you in the PC world anymore. It's not like we are going to have another 8800GTX breakthrough jump again.

$1000 is a fair price for such a powerful single GPU. It's not for everyone, but to call it garbage is absurd. Most could care less about custom PCBs and backplates.
True, but I don't think NVIDIA will pull another 780Ti > Titan situation in the near future. I think we'll see a 980Ti, but it will likely be 6GB and slower than Titan X and much colder/quieter/efficient.

Maybe i'm wrong, but I'm tired of my 780Ti. It just can't keep up in 3440x1440 anymore and I don't play the waiting game when it comes to PCs. There's always better in the near future.

The original Titan itself had plenty of fair controversy for being overpriced, and this cuts out that FP64 checkmark a lot of people used to claim the original Titan was fairly priced. It's not price/performance I'm arguing about, it's about a poorly-built, noisy, and hot-running card that has nothing exceptional or even great about its build quality nor its relative value to cards assuredly releasing within a few months that'll curbstomp it for cheaper.


The only thing this Titan has to offer is 12 GBs of VRAM... that's it, with vastly inferior cooling, aesthetic options, power delivery, and pricing. Nvidia's pricing increases are one thing, their complete lockdown on AIBs in refusing any custom models and still restricting their $1000 flagship is another.


Prove $1000 is a fair price, history certainly doesn't support it as anything normal for the same die size and performance increases $1000 gets you now and Nvidia's own limitations and cheap construction of the card hardly represent $1000 worth of value. If "most" buying a flagship, $1000 (the most expensive any single GPU has ever been) card don't care about overclocking, aesthetics, cooling, noise, tweaking the card, and paying far less money for all of the above and similar performance by just waiting a little while then what exactly do they care about? Shiny "Titan" sticker? Objectively, this thing's performance will be available for a much lower price within months and all the above options will as well. Objectively, this thing's build quality and physical characteristics are vastly inferior to much cheaper options that are and will be on the market.


I don't need to restate the list of cons of the card, but it's been tested and it is a very lackluster overall product (which a graphics card as a whole is; more than just the GPU) especially for the price and considering the way it will be undercut very soon. There are cards one third its price was far better build quality and thermal/noise performance. That's pathetic. Ultimately, the "card" itself is nothing special at all.


The GPU is fast, the whole card around it is pretty poor, and GPUs just as fast (give or take a few %) with far more fitting construction quality, cooling performance, overclocking ability, and aesthetics options are soon following at a far lower price. Unless you're tri/quad SLIing these things under liquid-cooling for a multi-monitor setup, the Titan X offers literally nothing to anyone worth considering in light of what's to come. Considering 16nm FinFET next year as well, the Titan X's performance category will be much more quickly overshadowed than the original Titan as well.
Edited by Serandur - 3/17/15 at 2:04pm
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You realize most compute isn't double precision. Nice to see you following me around threads though thumb.gif

i like shiny new goal posts too you know.

and yes compute and fp64 go hand in hand.
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Some Cons, nice Pros
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i like shiny new goal posts too you know.

and yes compute and fp64 go hand in hand.

Double precision is used in things like scientific simulations and generally by professionals. Single precision is what most prosumers will be using.

NVIDIA didn't nerf the compute on the Titan either. They nerfed it with Maxwell in general to save power. Hence a $4000 Quadro also not having DP fully enabled. Seeing as how 99.9% of this boards users are not going to use DP I don't see how it makes a difference. The Titan-X is still a beastly compute card with 3072 CUDA cores and 12GB of VRAM.
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Yeah, $999.

Still waiting to see a listing anywhere though (at least not here in the UK...)

Can be purchased here. Not sure about UK though.
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Just ordered two in stock at nvidia.com wheee.gif

The super high tax was annoying though. redface.gif
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