Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er
That's my point. In 3 months Titan will not be any special.
That's being pretty presumptuous.
Titan X is pretty good considering that it almost got a generational jump without needing a die shrink just from pure architectural improvements.
e.g 6970 to 7970 was probably a lesser jump as far as performance goes as that jump during that time was 40%. AMD got a die shrink and a new architecture going. Titan to Titan x is bigger than a 40% jump which is pretty good considering they use similar power and titan x has way more overclocking headroom.
For a gamer chip, Titan X is pretty fantastic. Almost all it's improvements come from pure architecture level advancements which has allowed them to get it out 1 year earlier(maxwell in general) and it has made AMD look like a generation behind in a long of ways. Tonga was AMD newest chip using the same HPM process Maxwell cards came out, and they simply came out awful.
AMD is trying to fight back with Nvidia not with architectural advancements as much as process manufacturing advantages(Supposedly fd soi > HPM) , water cooling and hbm. This isn't as impressive in my opinion because it is simply less of an R and D focused and more about having the right partners to give you access to these technologies. Plus it seems more like a brute force method that leaves way less head room in the future. I.e Nvidia will get these technologies eventually(get those improvements) and basically it will all be down to architecture again.
If it takes water cooling and a manufacturing process advantage that supposedly saves 20% power while giving 20% higher frequency to compete with Nvidia, they will be in trouble at 16nm, when the playing field is level again when Nvidia get HBM and everyone will be using 16nm.
I think even if AMD comes out as fast as rumored(which is highly suspect considering the timing of the leaks/i.e damage control as far as titan x reviews), most people that have purchased titan x will probably have very little to regret if they can afford 200 dollars. Theres a good chance nvidia will still have the crown when overclocking is taken into account(1550mhz on stock air cooling) and AMD isn't going to price their card that low considering it has a water cooler and very expensive memory incorporated into the chip. Plus the large die size itself.
You can't brag or presume on 390x laurels until it is released because considering how much of a financial beatdown maxwell has given AMD, if AMD has something, they should have released it by now and these rumors seem like a calculated effort on AMD's part to pull off anti marketing on Nvidia(crap on the competition rather than promote your new products). A move they seem to have taken alot since Roy Taylor went aboard AMD.