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If it were an $800 card it would sell for $800. It's a $1000 card because Nvidia is selling it for that much. Whether or not it is worth $1000 to you or to me or to anyone else forms the basis of whether we purchase it or not.
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Oh, I totally read them...they're fairly pointless and don't really present a viewpoint that justifies anything about the value of the card, or lack thereof. Wanna know how I know? Cause if the price of the Titan X was $700 (or even lower), then we would't be having this discussion. It literally comes down to price and affordability and perceived value, otherwise, if Nvidia were having a $200 special on this card, it'd be the single most stupid business decision in the history of capitalism. The fact that you felt compelled to speak about the pricing of the card and give justifications tells me everything I need to know.

Actually, Nvidia sold the equivalent of the TItan X four years ago for $500. It was called the GTX 580 and it was the boss GPU for quite some time if memory serves. Obviously things have changed and there are 12GB of memory to take into consideration with the Titan X but the fact is that Nvidia didn't used to gouge people for their big GPU cards quite like they do today (8800 Ultra notwithstanding). Hopefully AMD will put a stop to this nonsense with their next few releases (HBM on the 390X and 14nm FinFET after that)...
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...but, but who will guide those lost, those misguided, those stalled souls towards the true path to enlightenment and eternal happiness with cards with better price/performance ratio??? biggrin.gif

That wasnt my quote lol.

Anyone looking for best price/performance wouldnt buy the 980, you'd buy the 970. Its been like that for generations of both nvidia and AMD. Im sure the same will apply with the 390x and 390/380. Those that want a Titan obviously dont care about the price they just want the best. Titans have never and will never be best price/performance card, even nvidia know this. When you go shopping for a lambo im sure the last thing the muli-millionaire is concerned about is its price tag. The prices of GPUs has always climbed. 290x and 390x will be a good example especially if it performs better then the titan X.

I agree with what you said regarding enthusiasts. My comment was stupid.
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So has anyone been able to justify Titan's price from a consumer's perspective?

Business majors, Nvidia stock owners, and Nvidia employees NOT welcome smile.gif
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So has anyone been able to justify Titan's price from a consumer's perspective?

Business majors, Nvidia stock owners, and Nvidia employees NOT welcome smile.gif

Capitalism. smile.gif
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So has anyone been able to justify Titan's price from a consumer's perspective?

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Rich people.
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Really hope amazon starts shipping these soon
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So has anyone been able to justify Titan's price from a consumer's perspective?

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It can be justified in the sense of "it's worth it for me", but not in the sense of "it's worth twice what the GTX 580 (or any other high end GPU pre-Kepler) was when it released".

In other words, it can be justified from an individual consumer's perspective, but not from the perspective of consumers generally.
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Actually, Nvidia sold the equivalent of the TItan X four years ago for $500. It was called the GTX 580 and it was the boss GPU for quite some time if memory serves. Obviously things have changed and there are 12GB of memory to take into consideration with the Titan X but the fact is that Nvidia didn't used to gouge people for their big GPU cards quite like they do today (8800 Ultra notwithstanding). Hopefully AMD will put a stop to this nonsense with their next few releases (HBM on the 390X and 14nm FinFET after that)...

You are conveniently forgetting how much competition Nvidia had at that time; the 5000 series was king, and along with the 6000 were always better value cards. I am not going to entertain the notion that the Titan X is comparable to how the GPU space/competition was years ago. The GTX 580 would have been priced significantly higher then if circumstances had allowed for it.
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So has anyone been able to justify Titan's price from a consumer's perspective?

Business majors, Nvidia stock owners, and Nvidia employees NOT welcome smile.gif

Yes - as a consumer, I understand that the Titan X is nowhere near worth it in terms of performance-per-dollar. I also understand that there are a plethora of other options available for every budget that ARE "worth" their cost. I bought Titan Xs anyway because I want the best of what's available now, and was willing to pay the premium because I can afford it. I also understand that it's not a value proposition card and is not marketed as such. There are definitely smarter buys, unless money is of no concern.

Any other consumer insights you want me to share? I thought the logic regarding this card was pretty straightforward.
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You are conveniently forgetting how much competition Nvidia had at that time; the 5000 series was king, and along with the 6000 were always better value cards. I am not going to entertain the notion that the Titan X is comparable to how the GPU space/competition was years ago. The GTX 580 would have been priced significantly higher then if circumstances had allowed for it.
Yes - as a consumer, I understand that the Titan X is nowhere near worth it in terms of performance-per-dollar. I also understand that there are a plethora of other options available for every budget that ARE "worth" their cost. I bought Titan Xs anyway because I want the best of what's available now, and was willing to pay the premium because I can afford it. I also understand that it's not a value proposition card and is not marketed as such. There are definitely smarter buys, unless money is of no concern.

Any other consumer insights you want me to share? I thought the logic regarding this card was pretty straightforward.

Can you explain the skyrocketing of prices in what used to be known as the "smarter buys" tier?

Why have prices for this tier (GXX04 lineup) more than doubled?

The GTX 460 (the equivalent of 680s and 980s) used to cost $229. Now they are asking $499 and $549.

Can you explain this, or customers supposed to go even lower down the foodchain?
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