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Playing Oblivion: my first TES game

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So I got Oblivion and all its DLC for dirt cheap (~$7) physically and I got the 5th Anniversary Edition which says Behesda instead of 2K and came with a the 2 DLCs and an underwhelming bonus content DVD you use through a media player. Anyhow; this my first TES game and I'm really looking forward to playing it after I get the mods in order. I have some questions about it if someone could answer:

1.I got a DRM-free set of DVDs without a code; so I'm assuming this is unlimited installs. The packaging wasn't shady at all or anything; so I'm planning to add this to my Steam. Will adding this to my Steam library cause any mod incompatibilities?

2.I'm downloading the mods right now; but slow internet and college tomorrow means it'll be around 2 days before I got everything I want downloaded. So I'm asking this : WHAT DO I NEED? I'm downloading the basic ones; and I want your opinion on the best graphics mods. I'm playing at 768p so demanding mods aren't a concern. I'll either turn down AA or use an injector; but I want to make it look as great as possible.

3.Also it would be great if anyone could explain to or link a tutorial on how to install the mods in the proper order. I have the DLCs; and I've read some patches need to be installed in the proper order.

4.Is there a third person mod? I'd really like it. And something to make all the characters look good.

Thanks guys! I'll report back if(when) I have any doubts.
 
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1. Nope.

2. Oblivion Mod Manager, Oblivion Script Extender, DarNified UI, Midas Magic, Oblivion Character Overhaul 2.0, Immersive Weapons, Unique Landscapes Compilation, Natural Environments, Qarls Texture Pack III.

3. Installation order typically doesn't matter, except that Oblivion Script Extender and Mod Manager should be the first things installed, since many mods are installed through Mod Manager. Most mods are installed by simply dragging and dropping files into your steamapps\common\Oblivion\Data folder (or by dragging a Data folder into your steamapps\common\Oblivion folder). Others are installed through Oblivion Mod Manager, which walks you through it.

4. The game has third person view by default. You can toggle between first person and third person at any time, not only in Oblivion but also in Morrowind and Skyrim. Oblivion Character Overhaul 2.0 drastically improves character models.
 
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Thanks! So ONLY those mods are needed to play and get a good experience? I'm really confused with such a large number; especially since I have the DLCs and they seem to have fixes as well.
 
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Originally Posted by Jaydev16 View Post

Thanks! So ONLY those mods are needed to play and get a good experience? I'm really confused with such a large number; especially since I have the DLCs and they seem to have fixes as well.
Haha. That is most definitely not a large number of mods.
I'm assuming you're new to the TES and Bethesda game community, but there are thousands and thousands of mods for these games. You could load up Oblivion with 250+ mods that do all sorts of things.
What Bored recommends are simply essential mods to make Oblivion a more enjoyable modern gaming experience. Feel free to check out the Oblivion Nexus and download mods to your hearts content, but those mods above are things you should have and they are guaranteed to work with each other. Use other mods at your own risk.
 
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Originally Posted by Enad1 View Post

Haha. That is most definitely not a large number of mods.
I'm assuming you're new to the TES and Bethesda game community, but there are thousands and thousands of mods for these games. You could load up Oblivion with 250+ mods that do all sorts of things.
What Bored recommends are simply essential mods to make Oblivion a more enjoyable modern gaming experience. Feel free to check out the Oblivion Nexus and download mods to your hearts content, but those mods above are things you should have and they are guaranteed to work with each other. Use other mods at your own risk.
^ What he said. I use more mods than just those, but those are the ones I consider necessities. They're all small in file size too.

The Elder Scrolls franchise and Fallout franchise (particularly Fallout 3 and New Vegas, which take after The Elder Scrolls) are probably the most heavily modded game franchises. If I had to guess, I use close to 100 mods in Skyrim, close to 80 mods in Fallout: New Vegas, and somewhere around 50-60 in Fallout 3.

I wager that you're planning on playing Skyrim in the future if you like Oblivion. This is obviously a good choice to make, but in case you were planning on never playing Morrowind, I suggest otherwise. Morrowind is one of few games that amazes me every single time I play it (Skyrim is another one of such games). The art design of Morrowind is the main reason, it has such a unique, perhaps alien world, that Oblivion and even Skyrim don't have.
 
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Ok; in process of damage recovery after PC mysteriously stopped loading smaller sites like Nexus and OCN............
Would I need the Oblivion official and unofficial patches and the DLC and Shivering Isles patches? Getting them downloaded before installin. I grabbed Oblivion because it was cheap and I've never tried a TES game before. If I like it; I'll definitely check out the other when I get time and the money.
Also; will the character model resolution mods clash with.............other similar character model and skin mods(just curious)??
 
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Originally Posted by Jaydev16 View Post

Ok; in process of damage recovery after PC mysteriously stopped loading smaller sites like Nexus and OCN............
Would I need the Oblivion official and unofficial patches and the DLC and Shivering Isles patches? Getting them downloaded before installin. I grabbed Oblivion because it was cheap and I've never tried a TES game before. If I like it; I'll definitely check out the other when I get time and the money.
Also; will the character model resolution mods clash with.............other similar character model and skin mods(just curious)??
If your game doesn't come patched, then yeah get official patches. As for mods clashing with each other, I'd have to see the mods in question to give a straight answer.
 
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i'll go against the grain and advise the op to play all bethesda's games unmodded at least the first time, otherwise he won't get to enjoy the changes in gameplay and looks that come from mods
He could do that, but honestly, even though the games are masterpieces by themselves, they require some improvements and bug fixing.
There are so many great mods out there that improve every aspect of the games without compromising the original experience.

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3. Installation order typically doesn't matter.
...not really true. Try installing all the mods you want without looking at the installation instructions and you'll end up with a bug-ridden cauldron barely playable at best. Many mods require some specific load order or are not compatible with others.
My suggestion is to check mod by mod the instalolation procedure and follow it properly.
You can also install a few mods, check them in game to see if everythinbg is working as expected, then install some more.

Last suggestion. Oblivion is a good game, but you really should play Morrowind too, if the old graphics don't bother you
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... then jump with both feet into Skyrim, you won't regret it. Your social life, on the other hand...
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i'll go against the grain and advise the op to play all bethesda's games unmodded at least the first time, otherwise he won't get to enjoy the changes in gameplay and looks that come from mods
I agree.
At least try it out without a mod first. If you feel like something is lacking after some hours of gameplay, look for the mod you want.
 
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Is Natural Enviroments installed as normal mods with the OBMM?
 
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Originally Posted by d3viliz3d View Post

Also:
...not really true. Try installing all the mods you want without looking at the installation instructions and you'll end up with a bug-ridden cauldron barely playable at best. Many mods require some specific load order or are not compatible with others.
My suggestion is to check mod by mod the instalolation procedure and follow it properly.
You can also install a few mods, check them in game to see if everythinbg is working as expected, then install some more.
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Installation order is not the same thing as load order, nor is installation order the same thing as installation procedure. Load order does matter: parent mods belong on top of child mods, ESM files should loaded before all ESPs. Installation procedure obviously matters since there's only one right way to install mods. Installation order only matters if you're installing conflicting (texture) mods (I wouldn't advise installing other types of mods that conflict).
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Is Natural Enviroments installed as normal mods with the OBMM?
What type of files does that mod come with?
 
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Originally Posted by boredgunner View Post

Installation order only matters if you're installing conflicting (texture) mods (I wouldn't advise installing other types of mods that conflict).
That's what I meant, sorry
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That's what I meant, sorry
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In that case, now is a good time to make a suggestion about what to do in that scenario. If you have conflicting textures, I recommend using a program like Paint.net or Photoshop and open both texture files to compare both directly. Choose the one you think looks better, but make sure you check the resolution of both textures. I usually go for the higher resolution one, since I never came across a horribly made high res texture for Oblivion.
 
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What type of files does that mod come with?
It has different file formats for textures, meshes and sounds and also something called Naturals Environments unsupported Extras and some jpg files.
 
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Natural Environments comes with installation instructions. Meshes, Textures, Sound folders, and all ESP and ESM files go inside your data folder. Unsupported extras are just that, extras that aren't supported. They include other ESP files which go into your data folder, another textures folder which goes into your Data folder. Always read installation instructions, every mod has them. Lots of them will be only on the mod's Nexus page though.
 
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Thanks! I just tried to put the whole thing into OBMM. Will fix next morning when not so whoozy. Gonna download the texture mods tommorow and hopefully start playing.
 
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