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Originally Posted by delboy67 View Post

Are these guys not forcing a situation (really low fps) that no-one will play in to say ones better than the other? My monitor rarely ever sees sub 40 fps, if you're targeting those frame rates maybe better to save money and buy a ps4 instead.
It's not a question of average framerates, at least not until every game on the planet can eliminate all the occasional hitches during asset loading or whatnot. 40fps, or rather >25ms frames aren't uncommon in games where the developer is targeting 60fps.
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Thats fine and well for a gpu performance review but I would much rather turn it down a little instead of suffering boke inducing frame rates.
edit at looniam
post #1103 of 1757
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Thats fine and well for a gpu performance review but I would much rather turn it down a little instead of suffering boke inducing frame rates.
edit at looniam

fair enough. i did miss adding into that post and have wanted to mentioned for awhile:

i could be mistaken but, i believe to recall several reviewer's of g-sync mentioning that gaming ~35fps had the fluidity and experience much like 60fps. it had me thinking hey, yeah g-sync puts a $200 premium but it just may help avoid spending $300+ on another gpu.

this is why i have been mentioning the low end of the vrr window.

edit:
i do have a threshold for how low i would turn down IQ.
Edited by looniam - 3/28/15 at 11:25am
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post #1104 of 1757
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Every reviewer has had to make the same "Trust me" statement when filming VRR, because you can't capture VRR on a fixed rate camera. It is even difficult to capture tearing sometimes.

Your point is very weak, I mean what are you even trying to argue? You seen the damn oscilloscope on the table working in real time. Every other review site has mentioned the same issues PCPer tested with the scope. Months ahead of this we were talking about this being a potential issue with the technology as well.

None of this should be coming to you as a surprise!

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Originally Posted by TranquilTempest View Post

What exactly don't you trust? That VRR looks a lot smoother in person than it does when filtered through a fixed framerate video? The problems PCPer talked about were confirmed by a polish review posted a few pages back, with slow motion video: http://pclab.pl/art62755-4.html In the 27 and 35fps videos, freesync is clearly in a fixed refresh mode(with the v-sync off fallback case), and g-sync is clearly in a variable refresh mode. In the rest of the videos, both displays appear to be in variable refresh mode(though it's possible they're hitting a fallback case at 144hz.)

You seem to like to argue more than to fully understand what you are arguing against.

The video you have linked also require a certain level of trust. It could be true or couldn't be true but i am not interested in wasting time arguing.
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You seem to like to argue more than to fully understand what you are arguing against.

The video you have linked also require a certain level of trust. It could be true or couldn't be true but i am not interested in wasting time arguing.
I asked what exactly it was that you didn't trust about the PCPer review/video. How about answering that question?
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You seem to like to argue more than to fully understand what you are arguing against.

The video you have linked also require a certain level of trust. It could be true or couldn't be true but i am not interested in wasting time arguing.

The fact of the matter is that we are all too busy to fact check everything because becoming an expert in everything is tedious. The problem isn't that you don't trust the video. Your problem is that you are just as ignorant as myself but aren't willing to analyze what anyone says unless it is the expert you are comfortable with. In this case that expert is TFTCentral.

I hope if TFTCentral points out the same thing will you won't stop trusting them because they said something that runs counter to your beliefs even though you lack the knowledge base to support those beliefs.
post #1107 of 1757
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Originally Posted by FreeElectron View Post

The only decent reviewers i have found in Computer related hardware are.
  1. TFTCentral for displays
  2. JonnyGURU for PSUs
  3. Ino's Mouse reviews (and similar)
  4. Tyll's measurements for Headphone
  5. Martin's

That's it. I don't remember anyone else to be on the same level as those.

I also find PC Monitors to be a good dedicated monitor review site. Not as detailed as TFTCentral, but occasionally provides complementary information.

As for JonnyGuru, didn't he get hired away by Corsair at some point? Don't get me wrong the technical aspects of his review are still great, but I swear some of his reviews have a pro-Corsair slant.
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Don't forget Prad.de, too.
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post #1109 of 1757
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See..
I don't trust PCPer at all right now. after their Freesync review.
And when i was watching the video (about freesync vs gsync) i stopped when they started talking about what they see (that we can't see through the youtube video) so it requires a trust on my part to accept what they claim to see.
And that was the end of it.
Maybe later if they somehow regain my trust.
We would *love* to be able to photograph / video a simple difference between the two techs, but it would require too many disclaimers and open us up for even more accusations of being unfair to one side or the other. We were experimenting with exposure times and such and had what I viewed as a reasonable equivalent at 60 FPS video, but it still made it (FreeSync) look even worse than G-Sync, so we didn't publish it.

If you distrust us so clearly then just put your money where your mouth is, stop arguing, go buy yourself a FreeSync panel, and call it a day. Just don't complain if it turns out you are sensitive to the issues we are trying to point out. That's on you.
post #1110 of 1757
I'm afraid Sweclockers might be joining ranks of biased reviewers soon since they made 2730Z review with ghosting issue examined:

http://www.sweclockers.com/recension/20257-benq-xl2730z-med-amd-freesync/5#pagehead
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