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You can compare that to an i3 + mobo for the same pricing. In which case you'll still be losing in everything since you won't be OCing on a $40 AMD board and without a cooler.

Single threaded/IPC relevant benchmarks remain pretty much the same as mentioned already in this thread. Multithreaded ones will be very similar since no OC on the 6300. OC'd it will have stronger multithread ability but the thing is of you get a OCable board and a cooler for it you're pushed into an i5 budget and still lose out.

Again, you're still somehow biased towards AMD.. It's like you're falling for the more cores is better nonsense while ignoring the 50-70% IPC lead Haswell has.

But neither of those should be options for a productivity CPU because I'm sure OPs budget is over $150.
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Which platform would better suit me as a First Time builder. I mostly browse the web, watch Netflix during the weekdays for school and etc.

I edit quite a lot in photoshop for class projects. And during my free time i sketch using Krita. Sometimes I study 3D Medical stuff, and mostly research.

I do pc game, but sometimes when i'm not busy, or is in the mood. I plan on getting a ps4 later on when more than half my friends get one.

Have you ever considered a Kaveri based FM2+ APU? A number of features in Photoshop are optimized for OpenCL and HSA, so in that regard an APU seems to make more sense for you, significantly reducing render times. I also believe Krita has some OpenCL implementation as well, but don't quote me. How much time will you actually spend gaming, and what games do you/would you play? From your OP, it seems like your primary concern/interest is content creation, with gaming a minor activity. If so, you could significantly reduce your build costs by choosing an APU, and not worrying about a dGPU.
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Have you ever considered a Kaveri based FM2+ APU? A number of features in Photoshop are optimized for OpenCL and HSA, so in that regard an APU seems to make more sense for you, significantly reducing render times. I also believe Krita has some OpenCL implementation as well, but don't quote me. How much time will you actually spend gaming, and what games do you/would you play? From your OP, it seems like your primary concern/interest is content creation, with gaming a minor activity. If so, you could significantly reduce your build costs by choosing an APU, and not worrying about a dGPU.
Well I usually most of the time game on the weekends. Sometimes weekends when i'm on break or there's no homework(Which is rare). The games I play as of right now are Hitman Absolution (Free), Alien Isolation (Free), CS:GO, Maplestory, Tomb Raider, Final Fantasy, and Skyrim. I plan to only play at 720 resolution at the moment until I can afford a 21:9 1080 resolution monitor. The APU has access to HSA, and OpenCL cause of the newer architecture, am I correct? Could you explain how these can benefit? Sorry I don't really know much bout software implementations.
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^ Could be a great option especially if the Photoshop HSA gains are significant and doesn't plan on actually gaming much.

I don't know how much of a difference HSA makes in Photoshop so can't comment there, but if I wanted to keep the cost low and didn't really plan on gaming much I'd probably go that route(assuming the gains are good from those instructions).


Edit: just saw the games you planned on playing so unless you don't mind like low settings for the majority of them you probably wanna avoid the APU.


Also Skyrim and FF are super IPC dependant so they will run poorly with any AMD option.
Edited by iinversion - 3/28/15 at 10:16pm
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^ Could be a great option especially if the Photoshop HSA gains are significant and doesn't plan on actually gaming much.

I don't know how much of a difference HSA makes in Photoshop so can't comment there, but if I wanted to keep the cost low and didn't really plan on gaming much I'd probably go that route(assuming the gains are good from those instructions).
Thank you, I'll consider looking at the 7850K.
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Also I'll like to mention, aside from rarely gaming (usually weekends if free as said before), I don't really purchase many games. I stick with what I have.
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Also I'll like to mention, aside from rarely gaming (usually weekends if free as said before), I don't really purchase many games. I stick with what I have.

After seeing the games you play I'd stay away from AMD. See my edit.

If the games are a low priority then get the APU. Hopefully someone else can chime in and tell you how much gain you can expect from those instructions in Photoshop. If it's significant it might be worth it.
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Thank you. And hopefully someone can help me on the HSA part. As for the gaming IPC and playing at resolution on Intel, I honestly don't mind haha. I'm so use to playing at 720p all of the lowest settings possible I don't even mind anymore.
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Alright, sounds like you might be a good candidate for a 7850k, especially since you're gaming at 720P, and seem to want to stay at that resolution for awhile. iinversion is spot on that Skyrim and FF are very tough on the CPU, but gunning at 720P, the 7850k can pull it off, especially for light usage gaming. Here's some links:

1. Skyrim on 7850k @ 720P

2. 7850k Comparo using just CPU, then OpenCL implementation, lastly HSA JPEG decoder.

3. More 7850k benchies, focusing on Adobe CC

4. Brief explanation of HSA, featuring perhaps overly optimistic AMD marketing materials, but main gist is there....

5. FF XIV Bench with 7850k

Keep in mind that you can also upgrade your graphics at a later time if desired, via a dGPU. Lastly, it is important to note that HSA support is very limited at this point, and this perhaps will not change much. However, Photoshop is the big bright spot for HSA, so that is a win for your needs. Either way, OpenCL will always be at your APU's disposal, in cases where HSA is not.
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Alright, sounds like you might be a good candidate for a 7850k, especially since you're gaming at 720P, and seem to want to stay at that resolution for awhile. iinversion is spot on that Skyrim and FF are very tough on the CPU, but gunning at 720P, the 7850k can pull it off, especially for light usage gaming. Here's some links:

1. Skyrim on 7850k @ 720P

2. 7850k Comparo using just CPU, then OpenCL implementation, lastly HSA JPEG decoder.

3. More 7850k benchies, focusing on Adobe CC

4. Brief explanation of HSA, featuring perhaps overly optimistic AMD marketing materials, but main gist is there....

5. FF XIV Bench with 7850k

Keep in mind that you can also upgrade your graphics at a later time if desired, via a dGPU. Lastly, it is important to note that HSA support is very limited at this point, and this perhaps will not change much. However, Photoshop is the big bright spot for HSA, so that is a win for your needs. Either way, OpenCL will always be at your APU's disposal, in cases where HSA is not.
Thank you. I plan to pair the chip with a Crossblade, or A88X gaming, with kingston savage.
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