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Quick question, do you guys usually leave the power efficiency toggle on or off for your Fury?

On a different note, I start to realize that FuryX REALLY likes cooler temperature. Did some spring cleaning, and the card is MUCH more stable with overclocking:p

I leave power effifiency off because it adds latency and lag
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Quick question, do you guys usually leave the power efficiency toggle on or off for your Fury?

On a different note, I start to realize that FuryX REALLY likes cooler temperature. Did some spring cleaning, and the card is MUCH more stable with overclocking:p

I have a Fury X. I normally leave Power Efficiency "On" if I don't really need the extra horsepower for gaming. Especially outside of gaming for YT vids and Netflix.

I haven't really overclocked my Fury X in while, but I did undervolt it. I dropped the stock voltage from 1.23v to around 1.10v. It maintains 1050Mhz in 3DMark Ultra Stress Tests.

I've been thinking about overclocking my Fury X, but I still really have no real need to. I almost reached 1200Mhz in the past.
    
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Power Efficiency keeps clock at 300mhz when browsing the web and watching movies/youtube. The result is 20-40W less power draw. But for gaming it's bad, tried it like a year ago and it was downclocking when not all 100% of gpu was being used - causing stuttering. So you are much better of setting power efficiency off, and lowering the clock -100MHz and undervolt slightly to shave of 100W of power. Better result, and no stuttering.
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Where is the power efficiency switch?
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Power Efficiency keeps clock at 300mhz when browsing the web and watching movies/youtube. The result is 20-40W less power draw. But for gaming it's bad, tried it like a year ago and it was downclocking when not all 100% of gpu was being used - causing stuttering. So you are much better of setting power efficiency off, and lowering the clock -100MHz and undervolt slightly to shave of 100W of power. Better result, and no stuttering.

I guess it depends on the rig and the game. I don't have issues when running Power Saving features while playing games. At least not in the games I play.

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Where is the power efficiency switch?

AMD Radeon Settings > Gaming Tab > Global Setting > Power Efficiency

It's right before FRTC and after Tessellation Mode.
Edited by Kana-Maru - 4/23/17 at 11:36pm
    
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I know that only WHQL drivers should work, but I had WHQL driver. nevertheless I did update for the current one.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/19465538

Still far beyond my expectations.

Which/when/how FM decide to "approve" a driver I have no idea, other than what I said previously smile.gif .
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I guess it depends on the rig and the game. I don't have issues when running Power Saving features while playing games. At least not in the games I play.

Agree smile.gif .

Same rig/games plus user, so same potential of user error tongue.gif . At 1080P PE caused issues for me when using FRTC. Without FRTC less issues as card was then going high FPS. At 1440P PE has been perfect and combined with FRTC is sweet IMO smile.gif .
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To me that's a nice score.

Your score vs i5 4690K 4.9GHz stock Fury X. Graphics score elements are so close. Your not even doing too badly vs Ryzen R7 1700 for graphics elements.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/12415999/fs/2873251/fs/12415545#

11153 is result with current driver, FuryX still on stock.
10199 is fully overclocked R9-290x (1180Mhz, with fan on 94%)
11334 is non WHQL driver

Graphic results for FuryX looks quite constant, but there is just some "hiccup:" on combined test.

Also on 3900Mhz of CPU frequency were some stability issues, supposedly due heat coming from R9-290x. Tried some CPU overclocking tp 4000Mhz yesterday, while the heat problem is fixed with watercooler of FuryX. However no success, as it seemed that CPU simply failed LinX test when peak performance was above 74Gflops (problem size 9992), regadless voltage or temperature. On test with R9-290x i had memory set to 1600 7-7-7-18, effect of tight latencies in LinX test is almost same as extra 100Mhz on cpu.

Edit: and here is comparison with Ryzen

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/12415999/fs/12271989

Graphic scores seems to have +5% while the card of that guy is clocked by 50Mhz. For a CPU released ad 2010 its still impressive.
Edited by Offler - 4/24/17 at 1:08am
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Combined is where CPU and GPU are loaded. Post 10949 last link has guide to how tests work/score calculation.

So I reckon in a "load" where CPU/GPU are both being loaded you see "platform" bottlenecking, in the quoted post you can see one of your benches vs my Ryzen, ~50% difference on combined test.
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Combined is where CPU and GPU are loaded. Post 10949 last link has guide to how tests work/score calculation.

So I reckon in a "load" where CPU/GPU are both being loaded you see "platform" bottlenecking, in the quoted post you can see one of your benches vs my Ryzen, ~50% difference on combined test.

Which brings me to fact that Physics and such "funny" stuff faced heavy criticism. Mainly the hardware requirements have gone up greatly, with benefit which could be archieved by more optimized animation, instead of making it using Physics simulations. Only game I even found physics in action was Witcher 2 with ubersampling ON in the opening scenes with trebuchets.

Other side of the plattform bottlenecking is that my CPU might be a bottleneck for physics-related calculations, but I have one bugged version of OCCT stress test (basically furmark) and I found out that CPU is loaded up to 16% (one core) while R9 FuryX isnt even reaching 100% of utilization. And this is pretty much common for 90% of all 3d games i play.

Should better CPU increase performance (in FPS) and GPU utilization? Yes, but up to 84% of my cpu might be not utilized even now.

The 10% of apps which are optimized better for more draw calls is mainly represented by Thief and its Mantle Support, and by Crysis 3.0 engine based game which has support for multiple render threads (not even close to possibilities of Mantle).

I certainly expected that CPU/plattform will cause issues with rendering in graphics tests when comparing same GPUs, but it didnt. Physics and combined tests are of course expected to be lower, but I am no longer convinced its that much of a factor, as it seemed to be 5 years ago.
Edited by Offler - 4/24/17 at 6:50am
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@gupsterg

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12439944

after following your guide for unlocking to an absolute T , and reading some of your knowledge. I finally have my Fury where i want it. Will try for higher tomorrow biggrin.gif

here is the temp graph.

Edited by kfxsti - 4/24/17 at 7:52pm
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